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06-10-2009, 11:42 AM
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Heatley for Bobby Ryan

Not too familiar with both teams salary issues...but i do know that Niedermayer 6.75 is likely off the books for the Ducks, giving them some wiggle room cap wise.

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to Ottawa: Bobby Ryan

to Anaheim: Dany Heatley, pick


Ottawa gets a good young player that took leaps and bounds this year, with a low cap hit. Anaheim gets a 50 goal man that would be amazing with Getzlaf and Perry, but they would also be forced to move salary somewhere to make room.


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06-10-2009, 11:55 AM
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As a sens' fan I do this deal in a heartbeat, assuming it's a 1st. We'd get a young stud in Ryan who will fill a portion of the void left by Heater and could use the capspace to get another top 6 forward or top pairing d'man.

I suspect Anaheim keeps Ryan though, more value when you relate their salaries to performance. However, Lupul and Heater did look great together so you never know.

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06-10-2009, 11:57 AM
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Though I'd love Heatley on the Ducks, I don't think they make this move. First, there is salary cap issues if Niedermayer returns (and if he doesn't, does ownership spend to the cap once again or not?).

Ryan is a guy the Ducks have invested a lot of time in and he's showing signs of really working out. He may never hit 50-50 like Dany can, but he could be a solid 40-goal guy who's cheap right now. Add in the "high pick" which could produce another cheap, young player and I'd have to decline if I'm Anaheim.

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You sens fans are just getting silly now.

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I'd do that for sure.

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Terrible deal for the Ducks

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06-10-2009, 12:00 PM
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The Ducks don't need to fear the cap right now...

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I'd love for the Ducks to do this. I think this is a fantastic deal.

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06-10-2009, 12:04 PM
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I'd do it in a heartbeat. I suspect the Ducks would hang up the phone and block Murray's calls.

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I'd do that for sure.
Couldn't of said it any better.

There is a good chance that Bobby Ryan can score 40 goals this season on a rookie salary. Why would this deal work for the Ducks?

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I'd love for the Ducks to do this. I think this is a fantastic deal.
You'll love this because:

A) Ducks get older and loses another future talent
B) Ducks get screwed cap-wise regardless of Niedermayer's return because then they have take in Heatley's $7.5 million salary.

As for this proposal: Another one of Sens fans' pipe dreams. Ducks will never deal Bobby Ryan in that manner. Besides, Ryan's gonna become a Heatley in a few years anyways.

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ducks say no thanks...keep youre 7.5 mil per year 45 goal scorere and we'll keep our much younger,elc, 40 goal scorer that also hits

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You'll love this because:

A) Ducks get older and loses another future talent
B) Ducks get screwed cap-wise regardless of Niedermayer's return because then they have take in Heatley's $7.5 million salary.

As for this proposal: Another one of Sens fans' pipe dreams. Ducks will never deal Bobby Ryan in that manner. Besides, Ryan's gonna become a Heatley in a few years anyways.
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ducks say no thanks...keep youre 7.5 mil per year 45 goal scorere and we'll keep our much younger,elc, 40 goal scorer that also hits
Wait, when did Ryan score 40?

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I think a lower pick would be in favor. Ducks 2nd?

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Couldn't of said it any better.

There is a good chance that Bobby Ryan can score 40 goals this season on a rookie salary. Why would this deal work for the Ducks?
An avs fan proposed this deal. Sit your candy ass down.

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I think Ryan's pretty close to untouchable. I'd do this deal in a second, but c'mon, I'm a Sens fan.

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You sens fans are just getting silly now.
You want more for Bobby Ryan!

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As for this proposal: Another one of Sens fans' pipe dreams. Ducks will never deal Bobby Ryan in that manner. Besides, Ryan's gonna become a Heatley in a few years anyways.
Who says im a Sens fan?

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You'll love this because:

A) Ducks get older and loses another future talent
B) Ducks get screwed cap-wise regardless of Niedermayer's return because then they have take in Heatley's $7.5 million salary.


As for this proposal: Another one of Sens fans' pipe dreams. Ducks will never deal Bobby Ryan in that manner. Besides, Ryan's gonna become a Heatley in a few years anyways.
Yes pretty much

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I'd love for the Ducks to do this. I think this is a fantastic deal.
I think you forget the

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Ryan is not going anywhere.

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Who says im a Sens fan?
You're either:

1) A closet Sens fan

2) Really want to see the Ducks lose

3) Have no business making trade proposals for either team


take your pick.

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Unless Giguere or Pronger got moved or Nieds doesn't return, pretty unlikely Anaheim will be suitors for Heatley. But if a string of things happened, they could fit him I think:

- Sign Scott at same salary as now or less (though unlikely as his recent comments about taking a discount seems he wants full value)
- Let Rob walk
- Extend Wiz for under 2.5M
- Call up or sign two depth forwards at league minimum
- Call up one league minimum or close dman
- Sign or call up league minimum backup goaltender

Then try a package like Hiller, 15th overall, Mitera/Gardiner maybe (though I'm sure some other team would beat that). Ott opens up a ton of cap space there though.

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06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
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Not too familiar with both teams salary issues...
Then don't make a trade proposal that shifts almost 6M in cap hit

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but i do know that Niedermayer 6.75 is likely off the books for the Ducks, giving them some wiggle room cap wise.
Likely?

As for the proposal, aside from the monumental cap differential, the Ducks won't touch a declining Heatley for that price and money.

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