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06-11-2009, 07:54 AM
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Rate Our Players (2008-09 team)

I'm just curious due to the fact that I see a lot of people like or dislike certain players.

I was wondering what it would look like if members made their list from 1st to last who do you think is most important on the team.

Either importance or talent, choose before you make the list.

I'll post my list in a bit just getting settled in at work here, thought it'd be a nice idea for a thread.

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06-11-2009, 03:07 PM
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Sorry I haven't posted it yet, extremely busy work day will do it by tomorrow.

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06-11-2009, 05:21 PM
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I'm just curious due to the fact that I see a lot of people like or dislike certain players.

I was wondering what it would look like if members made their list from 1st to last who do you think is most important on the team.

Either importance or talent, choose before you make the list.

I'll post my list in a bit just getting settled in at work here, thought it'd be a nice idea for a thread.
If you forget their current UFA and RFA statuses, my list looks like this:

1. Carey Price
2. Andrei Markov
3. Saku Koivu
4. Alex Kovalev
5. Mike Komisarek
6. Andrei Kostitsyn
7. Alex Tanguay
8. Tomas Plekanec
9. Maxim Lapierrec
10. Josh Gorges
11. Roman Hamrlik
12. Guillaume Latendresse
13. Sergei Kostitsyn
14. Christopher Higgins
15. Robert Lang
16. Jaroslav Halak
17. Matt D'Agostini
18. Mathieu Schneider
19. Tom Kostopolous
20. Ryan O'Byrne
21. Glen Metropolit
22. Francis Bouillon
23. Georges Laraque
24. Mathieu Dandenault
25. Patrice Brisebois

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06-11-2009, 05:26 PM
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If you forget their current UFA and RFA statuses, my list looks like this:

1. Carey Price
2. Andrei Markov
3. Saku Koivu
4. Alex Kovalev
5. Mike Komisarek
6. Andrei Kostitsyn
7. Alex Tanguay
8. Tomas Plekanec
9. Maxim Lapierrec
10. Josh Gorges
11. Roman Hamrlik
12. Guillaume Latendresse
13. Sergei Kostitsyn
14. Christopher Higgins
15. Robert Lang
16. Jaroslav Halak
17. Matt D'Agostini
18. Mathieu Schneider
19. Tom Kostopolous
20. Ryan O'Byrne
21. Glen Metropolit
22. Francis Bouillon
23. Georges Laraque
24. Mathieu Dandenault
25. Patrice Brisebois
Your list is about right. But Markov should be at the top and Laraque at the very bottom.

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06-11-2009, 08:32 PM
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Your list is about right. But Markov should be at the top and Laraque at the very bottom.
I just realized your comment, it fits with my list..

1. Andrei Markov
2. Mike Komisarek
3. Andrei Kostitsyn
4. Saku Koivu
5. Alex Kovalev
6. Carey Price
7. Maxim Lapierre
8. Alex Tanguay
9. Tomas Plekanec
10. Josh Gorges
11. Roman Hamrlik
12. Guillaume Latendresse
13. Sergei Kostitsyn
14. Mathieu Schneider
15. Robert Lang
16. Christopher Higgins
17. Jaroslav Halak
18. Matt D'Agostini
19. Tom Kostopolous
20. Ryan O'Byrne
21. Glen Metropolit
22. Francis Bouillon
23. Mathieu Dandenault
24. Patrice Brisebois
25. Georges Laraque

It depends what is your criteria.. For me, I think Koivu and Kovalev will not bring us to the cup.. I realize people will disagree with where I place Price, but that's life
I just don't think he is our most important player, we can win with Halak... Habs are not the same with Markov.. and Komi from last years...

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06-11-2009, 08:44 PM
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1. Andrei Markov

This year made it very clear that the Montreal Canadiens are not able to accomplish anything without Markov and he solidified him self (at least IMO) as one of the Top 5 defensemen in the league (yet he still doesn't get credit for it).



2. Carey Price

What would we do without our #1 goalie? Carey Price can steal games when he's on. Unfortunately, consistency was an issue this year. Nevertheless, Carey Price is a true #1 goalie and will prove that to everyone around the league in the near future.



3. Alex Kovalev

Boy did 08/09 look like a disaster season for Kovy But late in the season he put the team on his back and with the help of our rejuvenated PP, led us to the playoffs. Alex Kovalev has got to be in the Top 5 most dangerous players in the league. It seemed like he kept on topping himself every game in the final stretch, each game scoring a nicer goal (I called it the Kovy Daily Snipe)



4. Saku Koivu

Oh Captain my Captain. I don't care what people say, Saku is our Captain and most likely will be until he retires with a Habs jersey on his back. Like most of our players he was injured quite a lot but was very effective in the last stretch with Tanger and Kovy and Markov and Schneider.



5. Andrei Kostitsyn
6. Mike Komisarek
7. Alex Tanguay



8. Josh Gorges

I LOVE GORGES! He shows up each and every night, he's a class act and always does the right thing. I love a defensemen that knows what he does and does it well.



9. Maxim Lapierre

While Greg Stewart changes games with his fists, Lapierre changes games with his heart, energy, pride and determination. He's a leader on this team and he was a bright spot in an otherwise mostly dim centennial. He's why I love players like Steckel, Burrows, Helm etc etc etc.



10. Tomas Plekanec

His 69pts season was clearly a fabrication of being a playmaker paired with 2 pure shooters. When that line was rendered useless this year, so was Pleks. He's good on our PK but his offense was lacking and he was mostly invisible all season.



11. Christopher Higgins
12. Guillaume Latendresse



13. Mathieu Schneider

He was good addition (for the PP) and was important to our success (on the PP). In fact every solid attribute you can credit Schneider with has to do with the PP, even strength he is average (if not a tad below average). You have an important player but he's only important about 15% of the time.



14. Sergei Kostitsyn
15. Roman Hamrlik



16. Robert Lang

It's hard to rank him. A big center was what this team needed, we got him, he got injured. So his true value to this team was never really tested.



17. Jaroslav Halak

When Carey gets overwhelmed/emotional it's good to know that we have a back-up we can depend on. Unlike teams like Calgary and Carolina, we don't have to ride one goalie into the ground and it's not stressful to give our #1 a break. That kinda of dependable relief is a privilege that most of us take for granted.



18. Matt D'Agostini



19. Glen Metropolit

He is a good solid roster player that leads by example. He was a good addition to our PK, and face-off situation. He's nothing spectacular, not as much important as useful.


20. Greg Stewart

He is ranked here purely for his game changing ability. I think it was a game in Atlanta where ATL was dominating, Stewart dropped some guy and the whole game changed. He knows when to fight and man does he know how to fight. I hope Martin keeps him around.


21. Ryan O'Byrne

I hope O'Byrne can bounce back after his.... collapse I guess you could call it. He didn't bring much to the team and was pretty much only noticeable when he was doing something wrong (Which I guess is OK for a Defensive Defensemen, flying under the radar). I say he has a 50/50 shot of staying with this organization this off-season, with all of our young defensemen he really doesn't fit in to any long term plans.


22. Mathieu Dandenault

A plug, he doesn't want to be here, gets plugged in when players are off their game. I wouldn't notice if he were gone and don't really notice when he plays.


23. Francis Bouillon

He tries:



24. Tom Kostopoulos

While Simone and Pumba provide energy on our well......energy line. Kostopoulos is like a little tag along kid trying to fit in. Don't get me wrong, Bless his soul for trying, the man just isn't not good at hockey or at the role he's given. He's more of a useless roster plug than anything else.


25. Georges Laraque

I wish we could've had a crystal ball to see that Greg Stewart would fill the game-changing-fighter role that we're paying this brute $1.5M for the next 3 years. He makes me upset every time that he steps on the ice (ESPECIALLY ON THE PP!!!!!)


26. Patrice Brisebois

Don't get me wrong, I have respect for Patrice Brisebois. The man is the 6th all-time D-man scorer in franchise history but it's just that he should've retired with dignity, instead he stayed around long enough to see himself become public enemy #1 with his errant passes, always being out of position and complete inability to keep the puck in the offensive zone.

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06-11-2009, 08:49 PM
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I think you must have a pretty damn low Hockey IQ for patrice brisebois to become your 'public enemy #1'.

Not talking about you op, just sayin.

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I think Schneider is underrated on most lists. He was very useful for us last year and I hope he's back. Had he played 82 games for us he was on pace for 61 points and 18 goals (I don't think he would have been able to keep up but he was amazing with Markov on the PP).

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I think you must have a pretty damn low Hockey IQ for patrice brisebois to become your 'public enemy #1'.

Not talking about you op, just sayin.
Well, that's clearly not literal but people around here (myself included) tore him apart in GDTs and he never seems to do much right. Everyone took their turn being Public Enemy #1 this year.

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1. Andrei Markov Can't win without him
2. Robert Lang (this guy was oour best player before his injury)
3. Maxim Lapierre (Most Consistent player this year i think)
4. Josh Gorges (Was the most consistent player on defensive this year if we dont count Markov)
5. Jaroslav Halak (Stole game when the team was playing real bad, I remember against SJ)
6. Alex Kovalev ( Got an OK season, but underachieved a bit)
7. Carey Price ( Have to learn to bounce back facter, but he'll learn it)
8. Mathieu Schneider (CHanged the dynamic of our PP)
9. Andrei Kostitsyn ( second "FULL" season jinx maybe?)
10. Alex Tanguay (Tanguay played very well when he played #1 line minutes, i mean, some games he flyed on the ice... like 2 games of 5 points in the season)
11. Guillaume Latendresse (good season for him, really)
12. Mike Komisarek (Underachieved, have to find his confidence back)
13. Saku Koivu ( Trade him, can't play first or second line minutes..)
14. Patrice Brisebois ( retirement please, but still gave us good hockey)
15. Christopher Higgins ( I think he found his way as a two way forward)
16. Matt D'Agostini (Good season for a rookie)
17. Tomas Plekanec ( Underachieved a lot, wasnt the same player.. ****ing wuss on the ice)
18. Tom Kostopolous ( Max Pac was better I think)
19. Glen Metropolit (great job for a line 4 centre)
20. Roman Hamrlik (Not value 5.5M)
21. Francis Bouillon (He was okay, but was in the play enough)
22. Mathieu Dandenault (Useless player, seriously)
23. Ryan O'Byrne ( Second season jynx lol)
24. Georges Laraque ( This guy was injured, after all, lets see this year?)
25. Sergei Kostitsyn ( This guy really FAILED this year, Second Season Jynx?)

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1) Saku Koivu - The heart and soul of the Habs. It would be shameful if he does not retire a Hab.

2) Carey Price - This is our future. He will bounce back. Just think of Fleury over the past few years, now look at him, this will be Price.

3) Alex Tanguay - Solid two-way forward that can put some points up too. Should be resigned.

4) Andre Markov - Power play dynamo. 5 on 5 needs work but I can live it if he keeps the PP points coming. (BTW his 5 on 5 play is why he does not get the Norris bids, shameful really, since Leetch was able to at least get votes)

5) Mike Komisarek - Big, solid defencemen, he just needs to be put in his true role as a 3-4 d-man instead of a 1-2. Gainey should do everything possible to bring him back unless of course he wants the moon.

6) Maxim Lapierre - Proved himself to be a very solid third line center with the added bonus of being able to put some goals in. I can see him being a 13-17g third line center for a long time with the Habs.

7) Guillaume Latendresse - No matter what people say about this guy, no one can dispute he has a scoring touch. He does need to drive to the net more to get those garbage goals but at 22 I think his future his solid. He shows a tremendous work ethic to make himself better throughout the year.

8) Alex Kovalev - What can you say about this guy that has not already been said. He is dynamic to say the least, he is also an enigma that his very hard to deal with on a team. I wish him to be back but I highly doubt he would like Martin's style. I can see him going to Pitt.

9) Chris Higgins - He showed where his true role is as a shutdown forward. He can be a perfect fit for Lapierre on the third line to shut down the others teams big line. He also can put in 20g.

10) Josh Gorges - This was a steal for Rivet (and MaxPac). Brings it every night and does not make a lot of mistakes. A little more seasoning and he will be a solid 4-5 guy.

11) Jaroslav Halak - Did everything he has been asked to do and helped out by stealing some games for us. I do think this tandem of him and Price does not work though. Halak needs to play more games consistently and Price needs a backup not a contender for his position. This will lead to Halak being traded.

12) Tom Kostopolous - Wears his heart on his sleeve (and stick if you remember the playoffs). A solid team guy, good for the room. Can play the fourth line very well and be moved up for short bursts if needed due to injury. Not much more you can ask for considering his price tag.

13) Andre Kostitsyn - He really needs to get off the perimeter and go the net more. He has the size to do so and we all know he has the hands to consistently score 40 in the NHL. He just needs to find that desire to fight for his ice. Two back to back 20 plus goal seasons is not bad for his age. Lets see if he can take it to the next level.

14) Mathieu Schneider - Did what he was suppose to when traded for. How much he has left in the tank is anyone's guess. Could be brought back for depth in a 5-7 role. Can't see him playing top 4 minutes anymore though. He is just a PP specialist now.

15) Roman Hamrlik - He dropped in my mind due to his severe lack of physical play. The year before he at least used his body to block people and move people. This year he looked like his age was catching up to him. I still think he has it him to play in the NHL. I just hope he brings just a little more for his 5.5m price tag then he did last year.

16) Glen Metropolit - Provides solid veteran depth at center. Shows up when he plays and does not complain when he does not. A solid 4th line center that can leave room for Chipchura to learn. Shows the younger players what it takes to be in the NHL.

16b) Tomas Plekanec - I forgot about him. Go figure, that just shows how bad his year was. The only thing that may have saved Pleks is that one streak he went on to get to 20g. That was the only bright thing. He is solid on faceoffs and is respectable defensively. Might be trade bait or be brought back for depth at center something we are lacking.

17) Francis Bouillon - For his size, he is one the toughest players to play against. Is not afraid of anyone. His injury may have cost him another contract with Montreal though.

18) Matt D'Agostini - Showed this year that he has good hands around the net. Although, he is really streaky and his 2-way play sucks really bad. If he can improve a little in the defensive zone he may get a full time role with the Habs. Until then though he will be in the AHL and called up to the NHL when injuries occur.

19) Robert Lang - I have him so low because his injury is probably career ending. He showed he can still play the game though. I just do not think he will be back at least not in the NHL.

20) Sergei Kostitsyn - Man was he brutal this year. Good thing he is only 22 though. Still lots of time to bring out the talent we all know he has. I think he should be in the AHL the whole year.

21) Max Pacioretty - Showed some brillance and good work ethic when he was up with the team. Still needs some more experience. I can see him making the team on the third line with Higgins and Lapierre if he has shown a lot of improvement over the summer. He does seem to be a quick learner. If not, another year in the AHL would not hurt.

22) Ryan O'Byrne - Noone had a more brutal year than O'Byrne. He was really bad and the fans getting on him all the time did not help (I know it is their right, but he is human). I think he may need another year in the AHL if the stuff from last year is still getting to him.

23) Mathieu Dandenault - He bleeds blue, blanc et rouge. This was his dream to play for the Habs. Too bad it may have ended the way it did. If I was Gainey though, I would try and convince him to come back. A player that can play D and forward is invaluable. I would like to see him back in a more defined role.

24) Georges Laraque - Injuries proved to be his demise last year. All the hype and excitement added to the disappointment. Hopefully, the new rules about staged fights do not hurt his play too much. Maybe we will finally see if he can actually skate and play now. Who knows at 10 minutes a game he may become useful again.

25) Patrice Brisebois - What can you say about this guy. He has played over 1k games in the NHL despite being one of the worse d-man in the game at giving the puck away. The thing with Breezer is he needs to be paired with a solid d-man which he did not have this year. If I was him and I have played over 1k games and won a couple of cups I would retire now and concentrate on racing .

I think that is it. That is my rating of the Habs and my thoughts.

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