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06-13-2009, 03:28 PM
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You know - I'm taking names of those that missed the implied sarcasm. I had an earlier, softer version - but I pushed it a bit fearing people will miss the sarcasm.

Seems I did not push enough. The scary part is that people believing me means it is possible we see this kind of stuff for real.

I was hoping that claiming we should have drafted Croby, putting three non-Russian names in a Russian issue, making a Lafleur's son hint and the Balsilie stuff at the end would be enough. Wasn't.
problem is that the quality of this board has detiorated to the point that this could very easily be a serious post by any number of hfboards members.

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That was funny.

The worst is that some people really thinks like that. Except maybe the Balsilie thing. I hope.

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06-13-2009, 03:43 PM
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Wow, some people in here are just... wow.. (not the OP)

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That's a great post, you got me with your first points, but damn I laughed so hard after... but then, what's funnier than your post is the reaction of some posters who really thought you were serious

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best post ever.

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I bet you he's now claiming sarcasm because the reviews are in

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06-13-2009, 04:04 PM
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- Gainey and Martin claim to follow the Red Wings model - it was clear last night it's choker and failure model. We should use the Penguins model instead.

- We should start drafting top players from the Q - how many were there one the Pens including Crosby ? Also we should try to draft more real Québecers like Fleury or Letang (Talbot deserves a paragraph for himself).

- Maxime Talbot. How could we pass such a great awesome clutch player? Grit, determination, great hands and he's one of us too ? A team with 4-5 Talbots would be Stanley Cup bound. Who did we get instead of him ?

- If we-re going to draft Russians, at least draft good ones like Malkin not lousy Kostytsyns, Grabovski's and Plekanec.

- Team ownership should belong to ex stars. There are plenty of ex Habs great names that would be willing to be our own Mario Lemieux. Think about Lafleur or Beliveau or Patrick Roy.

- Our young superstars should be asked to live with great ex players. Imagine Price living with Guy Lafleur who would treat him like a son and teach him the basic values needed to be a proud Hab player.

- We should try and have Balsilie offer to buy and move us too. This will bring Bettman to do his best so we get good players and favorable refs so that we can build us a fanbase. Worked for the Pens...

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You're wearing your hat with jingling bells and your shoes with pointed toes today, aren't you? Good joke.

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06-13-2009, 04:06 PM
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So much wrong with this thread. I'll just pick a few....



Wings have 4 Cups in the last 12 years. How is that a choker model?



When we perenially pick around 15th how can we draft a Malkin?



No. Just no. Beliveau is the only one I would even remotely consider but I highly doubt he wants it.



LaFleur doesn't like any of our players and continually criticizes them right or wrong. How would having a player live with him help?



is this a joke? if so this is where I "got it" I see at least 3 laughable comments in here. 1. Balsillie should offer to buy & move them? His credibility is already shaky with the NHL this would lose it all for him. Why would he do that? 2. get favourable refs? they'd have to fire them all & hire all Montreal born & raised refs. 3. build a fanbase? are you imlying our fanbase is small?
This post was even funnier than the OP (especially since it's unintentionally funny)

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06-13-2009, 04:10 PM
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I don't have any respect for a franchise that tanks year after year in order to harvest high draft picks.

I wanted to get that off of my chest, and this seems like the right thread to do it in...

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06-13-2009, 04:25 PM
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To whom do I speak of? Myself probably.

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06-13-2009, 04:32 PM
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Are you serious?

The Pens won this year and the Red Wings last year...so why all of a sudden are the Wings crap???

The Wings have been a consistant top team in the NHL for what the past 10-15 years now and have 4 Cups to go with that.

What helped the Penguins?

A really bad 7-8 years where they had consistant top 5 NHL picks from Fleury, Crosby, Malkin, Staal and a solid core to help out.

Montreal has a solid core, we just haven't had the opportunity to draft in the top 5 all the time to build a winner....the Wings are the exception to that because Zetterberg, Datsyuk and others a late round gems that are stars with their core.

Look at the Canes and Lightning....same as the Pens.

If your crap for a long time you can draft well, next team to step up after being bad for a long time...Chicago.

The draft helps, but it helps if you have a top 5 pick year after year.

I agree with everything you said.

But, if Habs can't draft like Detroit - how will they ever become a true Cup contender unless they bottom out (like the Pens & Hawks)?



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06-13-2009, 04:37 PM
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I want to say something to the defense of those who believed my original post.

First, fortunately enough - noone agreed with my points.

Second - if they believed me it is because it can happen. In fact, let's be realistic it will happen. I wrote it kinda like a preemptive strike. I was exaggerating but some of these points will come up during next weeks.

- Whenever the Wings model will be mentioned someone will bring to our attention that they lost the SC to the Pens (as irrelevant as this can be).

- The Pens cup will be used as an argument to draft more Quebecers and more players from the Q in general (those were 1st overall picks for gods sake!)

- The topic on "Why did we miss on Talbot ?" is waiting to happen

- The "former star as owner" discussion already happened with Savard.

- The "we should have forced Price to live with a tutor, like Lemieux did" was also already present months ago.

So - it was plausible (except for the Balsilie part I hope )

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06-13-2009, 04:44 PM
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- Our young superstars should be asked to live with great ex players. Imagine Price living with Guy Lafleur who would treat him like a son and teach him the basic values needed to be a proud Hab player.
This might be a good idea for some of our young guys. Would like to see some of them get a li'l tougher and maybe a year in prison could help to harden them a bit.

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We need more threads like these.

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- Our young superstars should be asked to live with great ex players. Imagine Price living with Guy Lafleur who would treat him like a son and teach him the basic values needed to be a proud Hab player.

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Newhabfan,

not sure what you mean by the term superstar?

To me........Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, Bobby Hull, Lafleur, Crosby, Ovechkin either are - or were superstars.

IMO - The superstar will be a consistantly dominant player and will sell tickets by his presence in the game - don't see any superstars on Habs roster - young, old or otherwise!

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06-13-2009, 05:25 PM
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The fact that some people believe this proves how a) young or b) incredibly stupid some people are in this world...

Kudos to the OP this was epic. Especially the Lafleur thing, made me laugh!

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06-13-2009, 05:27 PM
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- Gainey and Martin claim to follow the Red Wings model - it was clear last night it's choker and failure model. We should use the Penguins model instead.

- We should start drafting top players from the Q - how many were there one the Pens including Crosby ? Also we should try to draft more real Québecers like Fleury or Letang (Talbot deserves a paragraph for himself).

- Maxime Talbot. How could we pass such a great awesome clutch player? Grit, determination, great hands and he's one of us too ? A team with 4-5 Talbots would be Stanley Cup bound. Who did we get instead of him ?

- If we-re going to draft Russians, at least draft good ones like Malkin not lousy Kostytsyns, Grabovski's and Plekanec.


- Team ownership should belong to ex stars. There are plenty of ex Habs great names that would be willing to be our own Mario Lemieux. Think about Lafleur or Beliveau or Patrick Roy.

- Our young superstars should be asked to live with great ex players. Imagine Price living with Guy Lafleur who would treat him like a son and teach him the basic values needed to be a proud Hab player.

- We should try and have Balsilie offer to buy and move us too. This will bring Bettman to do his best so we get good players and favorable refs so that we can build us a fanbase. Worked for the Pens...

- Feel free to add your precious insights...
These are the only two lines that makes a bit of sense... We picked Ferland ahead of him !!!!

But the rest is a good laugh indeed...

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06-13-2009, 05:28 PM
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- We should start drafting top players from the Q - how many were there one the Pens including Crosby ? Also we should try to draft more real Québecers like Fleury or Letang (Talbot deserves a paragraph for himself).
Watch for media columnists to make exactly that argument.

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- Maxime Talbot. How could we pass such a great awesome clutch player? Grit, determination, great hands and he's one of us too ? A team with 4-5 Talbots would be Stanley Cup bound. Who did we get instead of him ?
Sadly, there's articles on cyberpresse and ruefrontenac saying exactly this, and they list the players the Habs drafted ahead of him. I mean, how could they miss the talent of a guy picked -- what was it, 245th? It was obvious, how incompetent can scouts get?

I bet some fans will pick up your other arguments, including mistaking Plekanec for a Russian and suggesting Price should model his nightlife after Guy Lafleur's.

The saddest part about your sarcasm? Most arguments will be made with a straight face by other people.

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We need more threads like these.
Hmm, not too sure about that. I understand the OP was trying to be witty and sarcastic, but, imo, failed. It's just pushing on the wrong buttons again, baiting people with polarised opinions to make sure Habs fans keep ripping into each other.

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anyone who didn't get it should get ipbanned

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Hmm, not too sure about that. I understand the OP was trying to be witty and sarcastic, but, imo, failed. It's just pushing on the wrong buttons again, baiting people with polarised opinions to make sure Habs fans keep ripping into each other.
It does feel almost troll-like indeed though unintended. But the bait was so unreasonable... I mean, Balsilie ??

Anyway for my true intentions and position read post 38

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- Gainey and Martin claim to follow the Red Wings model - it was clear last night it's choker and failure model. We should use the Penguins model instead.

- We should start drafting top players from the Q - how many were there one the Pens including Crosby ? Also we should try to draft more real Québecers like Fleury or Letang (Talbot deserves a paragraph for himself).

- Maxime Talbot. How could we pass such a great awesome clutch player? Grit, determination, great hands and he's one of us too ? A team with 4-5 Talbots would be Stanley Cup bound. Who did we get instead of him ?

- If we-re going to draft Russians, at least draft good ones like Malkin not lousy Kostytsyns, Grabovski's and Plekanec.

- Team ownership should belong to ex stars. There are plenty of ex Habs great names that would be willing to be our own Mario Lemieux. Think about Lafleur or Beliveau or Patrick Roy.

- Our young superstars should be asked to live with great ex players. Imagine Price living with Guy Lafleur who would treat him like a son and teach him the basic values needed to be a proud Hab player.

- We should try and have Balsilie offer to buy and move us too. This will bring Bettman to do his best so we get good players and favorable refs so that we can build us a fanbase. Worked for the Pens...

- Feel free to add your precious insights...
Is this serious?

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