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06-15-2009, 12:09 PM
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Shane O'Brien

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A swap of RFAs. Neither have quite lived up to their potential. O'Brien is a physical defender with underrated puck skills. Adds toughness to the backend. Fehr adds size to the Canucks up front and the potential to become a decent contributor offensively.

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3 years ago...I would have said yes.

Now...not so much.

The Caps are pretty full on the blueline...if they are going to be adding, it's going to be of the Kubina/Bieska like...not O'Brien.

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From a Canucks perspective-yes. Fehr is decent and the Canucks need all the help they can get at forward.

From a Caps perspective-no. They don't need another Milan Jurcina. They need a physical, top-pairing, defensive d-man to play with Green.

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From a Canucks perspective-yes. Fehr is decent and the Canucks need all the help they can get at forward.

From a Caps perspective-no. They don't need another Milan Jurcina. They need a physical, top-pairing, defensive d-man to play with Green.
Well SOB isn't exactly top-pairing, but he is a physical defensive d-man who has the ability to chip in offensively every now and then.

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06-15-2009, 12:37 PM
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From a Canucks perspective-yes. Fehr is decent and the Canucks need all the help they can get at forward.
Disagree. Strongly.

With Ohlund leaving, and trading O'Brien for a forward, our d looks like:

Salo-Edler
Bieksa-Mitchell
Davison-Vaananen

...even if we add a Bouwmeester, we still have a very mediocre bottom pairing.

The Canucks need a difference maker on offense, not Fehr. If a defenseman is traded, it won't be O'Brien, and it won't be for a forward that is of Fehr's level. Nothing against the guy - I really like him - but he's not a difference maker and that's what the Canucks need.

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I may be missing someone about Fehr... but why are we trading for him?

With Hodgson and Grabner challenging for roster spots come training camp won't we have a glut of young talented players to slot in on the 3rd line and develop ourself?

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From a Canucks perspective-yes. Fehr is decent and the Canucks need all the help they can get at forward.

From a Caps perspective-no. They don't need another Milan Jurcina. They need a physical, top-pairing, defensive d-man to play with Green.
Cough cough

Shane is a top paring d-man? why was he a healthy scratch twice last season?

Shane is a 5-6 d-man and that is it

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I like Fehr but there is just no room in our line-up for him.

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Cough cough

Shane is a top paring d-man? why was he a healthy scratch twice last season?

Shane is a 5-6 d-man and that is it
Isn't that what he said? SOB = not a top pairing d-man, so the Caps should say no.

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From a Canucks perspective-yes. Fehr is decent and the Canucks need all the help they can get at forward.

From a Caps perspective-no. They don't need another Milan Jurcina. They need a physical, top-pairing, defensive d-man to play with Green.

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Cough cough

Shane is a top paring d-man? why was he a healthy scratch twice last season?

Shane is a 5-6 d-man and that is it
Nobody said Shane was a top pairing d-man. I don't know how you got that out of the post you quoted.

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06-15-2009, 01:23 PM
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Its simple. The Caps don't need bottom half of the lineup defensemen which O'Brien is. They have Jurcina and Erskine in the roll O'Brien plays.

What they lack is a top half of the lineup veteran defenseman with playoff experience. Pronger, Kubina, etc.

The Caps might trade Fehr, but not for a roll player they dont need

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Fehr would most likely be packaged with another prospect/roster player in order to get a much better d-man.

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Disagree. Strongly.

With Ohlund leaving, and trading O'Brien for a forward, our d looks like:

Salo-Edler
Bieksa-Mitchell
Davison-Vaananen

...even if we add a Bouwmeester, we still have a very mediocre bottom pairing.

The Canucks need a difference maker on offense, not Fehr. If a defenseman is traded, it won't be O'Brien, and it won't be for a forward that is of Fehr's level. Nothing against the guy - I really like him - but he's not a difference maker and that's what the Canucks need.
You might want to take a look around the league and see how many teams have strong bottom pairings. Mostly you'll find teams with bottom pairing defensemen making less than $1M.

I'd be fine with it, especially if we got Bouwmeester.

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How about O'Brien for Nylander?


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Well SOB isn't exactly top-pairing, but he is a physical defensive d-man who has the ability to chip in offensively every now and then.
Is that every now and then once every 90 or so games...?

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How about O'Brien for Nylander?

Done.

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