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06-16-2009, 10:42 AM
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Brayden Schenn has been compared several times to Mike Richards.
I think he's more like a bigger, more physical Hemsky. He's got the same great vision and passing ability, but he makes guys afraid of him and can win board battles effortlessly.

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06-16-2009, 10:49 AM
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I think I like the Victor Hedman and Erik Johnson comparison alot.

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06-16-2009, 10:55 AM
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Budish= Getzllaf
Helgeson=Pronger
Dumoulin=Larry Robinson
Olsen= shot:Al MacInnis;Defense:Ryan Whitney?
Kreider=Jeremy Roenick (the younger,not the geezer).
Alex Chiasson=Milan Lucic
Tavares=Heatley
Simon Dahl=Bossy
Duchene=Mike Richards
Hedman= (I'm not sure,but he's not Chara)


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06-16-2009, 10:56 AM
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I think I like the Victor Hedman and Erik Johnson comparison alot.
Bad comparison. EJ is a lot more physical, has a meaner edge to him. Hedman plays positional/stick work defense in his zone while EJ plays positional/physical one-on-one eraser defense.

Plus I don't think there's a defense prospect out there that can match the slapshot/wrist shot combo that EJ has from the point. I'd wager his wrist shot is harder/more accurate than Doughty's slapper, for example. Very underrated aspect of his game.


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06-16-2009, 10:59 AM
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I belive your discription of Duchene is way off his skating is fantastic but his shot is so so.
no he has a great shot also, and his skating is his best attribute

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06-16-2009, 11:35 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and compare Ryan Ellis to Mike Green. I haven't seen the comparison before so I figure I'll let you guys ponder it.

Here are my reasons why;
1. Both players have suspect skating ability in the NHL, neither player is the strongest on their feet.
2. Both players have a noticeable offensive ability both 5 on 5 and on the powerplay.
3. Both players have a nack for being on the ice when goals are scored, Mike Green pushed a mid +30 in the NHL in 2009 while Ellis was a low +50 in the OHL.
4. No team has had real confidence in either player during their draft year.

Those are my four reasons why the two seem similar.

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06-16-2009, 11:59 AM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and compare Ryan Ellis to Mike Green. I haven't seen the comparison before so I figure I'll let you guys ponder it.

Here are my reasons why;
1. Both players have suspect skating ability in the NHL, neither player is the strongest on their feet.
2. Both players have a noticeable offensive ability both 5 on 5 and on the powerplay.
3. Both players have a nack for being on the ice when goals are scored, Mike Green pushed a mid +30 in the NHL in 2009 while Ellis was a low +50 in the OHL.
4. No team has had real confidence in either player during their draft year.

Those are my four reasons why the two seem similar.
What? Mike Green is probably one of the best skaters on the Capitals, and among Dmen he's up there leaguewide.

Also, Green has size and physicality (great open-ice hitter) that Ellis doesn't at this point.

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06-16-2009, 12:02 PM
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I'm tempted to say Tavares is Pavel Bure, minus the skating.

Is Hedman = Leetch a fair comparison?

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06-16-2009, 12:23 PM
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I'll do the Slovaks.
Tatar - I have big expectations from this guy. Hopefully Palffy version 2.
Panik - HUUUUUGE bust potential in my mind, has the size that Tatar lacks, however doesn't seem to be the healthiest guy. If he pans out, could be Marian Hossa, if not, someone who never made any significant NHL impact, Patrik Stefan or someone else sucky.

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06-16-2009, 12:39 PM
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What? Mike Green is probably one of the best skaters on the Capitals, and among Dmen he's up there leaguewide.

Also, Green has size and physicality (great open-ice hitter) that Ellis doesn't at this point.
Ellis is actually a pretty good open ice hitter, and he's pretty physical for a small defenseman.

But I agree with you, he doesn't have Green's size, and Green is a much better skater at this point in time.

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06-16-2009, 01:24 PM
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Tavares = Heatley
Hedman = Pronger sized Nedis
Duchene = Toews/Sakic
Kane = Iginla
MSP = Nazzy/[if he improves defensively: Hossa]
Schenn = Mike Richards
Cowen = Coburn
Ellis = Boyle or Rafalski [but less skilled defensively, tho he can and hopefully will improve that]

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06-16-2009, 01:41 PM
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Sami Vatanen - Petteri Nummelin
Nico Manelius - Teppo Numminen

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06-16-2009, 01:47 PM
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Everytime someone compares Evander Kane to Iginla, Al Sharpton facepalms.

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06-16-2009, 01:52 PM
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Everytime someone compares Evander Kane to Iginla, Al Sharpton facepalms.
Yeah I don't get how a 5'11" 160 pound winger who is supposed to use his speed to beat guys to the outside is somehow Iginla...

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06-16-2009, 02:02 PM
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Yeah I don't get how a 5'11" 160 pound winger who is supposed to use his speed to beat guys to the outside is somehow Iginla...
160lbs?.... um no...

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06-16-2009, 02:02 PM
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Kadri reminds me alot of Dallas's Mike Ribeiro.

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06-16-2009, 03:49 PM
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Yeah I don't get how a 5'11" 160 pound winger who is supposed to use his speed to beat guys to the outside is somehow Iginla...
I don't see Iginla in kane (apart from the obvious superficial comparison), but kane is not 160 lbs. It's as if people on HF comment on prospects they never see live, i don't get it......

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I commented in another thread that watching Ethan Werek reminded me of Scott Mellanby. The Brayden Schenn = Mike Richards comparison and Jared Cowen = Brayden Coburn comparisons are also pretty good too, IMHO.

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06-16-2009, 11:42 PM
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I actually think Schroeder is comparable to Daniel Alfredsson. Neither are big guys, and neither are very fast either, but both are highly skilled, have a strong core, and perhaps most importantly, are highly intelligent players.

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06-17-2009, 12:15 AM
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I don't see Iginla in kane (apart from the obvious superficial comparison), but kane is not 160 lbs. It's as if people on HF comment on prospects they never see live, i don't get it......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X6bB2mwq1c

He certainly doesn't look very bulky in his footage and that is his published weight.

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06-17-2009, 12:18 AM
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I'm tempted to say Tavares is Pavel Bure, minus the skating.

Is Hedman = Leetch a fair comparison?
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skating was arguably what made bure

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06-17-2009, 08:59 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X6bB2mwq1c

He certainly doesn't look very bulky in his footage and that is his published weight.
That was his weight as a 16 year old rookie. Look up his current weight at one of the draft sites. Anyone who has watched Kane knows that 160lb stat is 2 years old. That's what makes me shake my head at people on HF, spouting off opinions about players they obviously haven't seen play live......If someone doesn't know that Kane has gained around 20 lbs since last year, how can we take there assertation "that i have a feeling Kane will bust" seriously??!!

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