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06-19-2009, 06:49 AM
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Burke to extend offer sheet to Hansen

Tony Gallagher from the Vancouver Province

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And then there's Shane O'Brien, Kyle Wellwood and Jannik Hansen who are restricted free agents, the latter entirely likely to get a nuisance offer from the Leafs, forcing Vancouver to either match a higher number than he's proven he's worth or hand him over to Toronto for a draft pick, something the Canucks might actually opt for if push comes to shove
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Se...519/story.html

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yeah Burk with an offer sheet

that would be fun entertainment for a few hours--

After his rants about the Penner deal--this place would inplode. Gallagher is just taking the piss out of people

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We don't have all of our own picks, so its very unlikely Toronto can even make an offer sheet.

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Someone forgot to tell Tony Gallagher that Jannik Hansen and Christian Hanson are not brothers.

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We don't have all of our own picks, so its very unlikely Toronto can even make an offer sheet.
I would be for next year's and beyond picks though. I think the Leaf's have most of those.

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Well if Burke had actually said that, it would be tampering. It's just a writer's guess

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I would be for next year's and beyond picks though. I think the Leaf's have most of those.
Nope, thats what I mean. We don't have our second next year.

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Well if Burke had actually said that, it would be tampering. It's just a writer's guess
yep

people are forgetting that Burke tried to have Gallagher fired when Burke was in Vancouver

So--I think it is just Tony trying to cuase trouble

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Nope, thats what I mean. We don't have our second next year.
Ok, my bad. Didn't recall them dealing that pick, which would be very necessary, I would guess, for an offer sheet for a guy the calibre of Hansen.

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If this happens, it'll be so much fun to see the uneducated come out in droves to bash Burke for criticising Lowe's offer-sheet, despite having been proven right. Despite the fact Burke's never said anything negative about an offer-sheet as a tool.

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If this happens, it'll be so much fun to see the uneducated come out in droves to bash Burke for criticising Lowe's offer-sheet, despite having been proven right. Despite the fact Burke's never said anything negative about an offer-sheet as a tool.

Not going to tee off ya--but

suggest you google burke's comments abiout the offer sheet and how it will ruin business'

he teed off on the offer and the oilers using that option

suggest you review all the comments that he made

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Burke has never submitted an offer sheet on a player before and he isn't going to start now. Although he recognizes it as a legitimate way to conduct business under the CBA rules, he himself has never gone after a player in that way.

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Not going to tee off ya--but

suggest you google burke's comments abiout the offer sheet and how it will ruin business'

he teed off on the offer and the oilers using that option

suggest you review all the comments that he made
Burke said Penners' offer sheet was grossly inflated and therefore sets a bar for other players to be paid money they are not worth.

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Not going to tee off ya--but

suggest you google burke's comments abiout the offer sheet and how it will ruin business'

he teed off on the offer and the oilers using that option

suggest you review all the comments that he made
Suggest you do the same and see the difference in his comments about using offer-sheets as a tool and that particular offer-sheet.

Now if he were to give out something ridiculous like 2.5 to Hansen then he could be blasted for everything he ever said about the Penner sheet, i can't see him doing that however.

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What?! Why would Jannik Hansen of all people draw OS interest?!

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I would be for next year's and beyond picks though. I think the Leaf's have most of those.
I believe the Hawks have the Leafs 2nd rounder in 2010 via the Lang trade from Montreal, who got the pick for Grabovski.

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If this happens, it'll be so much fun to see the uneducated come out in droves to bash Burke for criticising Lowe's offer-sheet, despite having been proven right. Despite the fact Burke's never said anything negative about an offer-sheet as a tool.
So Burke was just saying something negative about the offer-sheet because he was on vacation or about to get inducted into the BC HOF? At least, I think that was it.

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Burkes comments were

"This allows another team to set your budget"
"This elimates the team ability to nagotiate with their own players fairly"
"This eliminates the second contract"
"Ruins a team abilty to develop their own players"
"ONLY TEAMs WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN PLAYERS WOULD GO THIS ROUTE"
"Only a team who manager who has no clue would go this route"


not one comment about how much Penner was getting

Burke made a lot of comments over a year

swing by the oiler board and they will give even longer list of his comments where Penner's contract will not be mentioned

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What?! Why would Jannik Hansen of all people draw OS interest?!
Maybe VAN doesn't want to offer him the 6-800g's he's worth.
If its more than a 2nd in compensation, I'm gonna puke.

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Suggest you do the same and see the difference in his comments about using offer-sheets as a tool and that particular offer-sheet.

Now if he were to give out something ridiculous like 2.5 to Hansen then he could be blasted for everything he ever said about the Penner sheet, i can't see him doing that however.
Problem is the whole point of giving an offer sheet is to give an offer that the other team won't match.

They either can't match due to cap concerns - which isn't a problem with the Canucks - or it's due to a team that feels the offer is a fair bit more than the player is worth (ie., overpaying for the player).

That's how you get an offer sheet to succeed - else it's just a "nuisance offer" sheet.

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I believe the Hawks have the Leafs 2nd rounder in 2010 via the Lang trade from Montreal, who got the pick for Grabovski.
For some reason I thought that was the 2009 2nd.

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Suggest you do the same and see the difference in his comments about using offer-sheets as a tool and that particular offer-sheet.

Now if he were to give out something ridiculous like 2.5 to Hansen then he could be blasted for everything he ever said about the Penner sheet, i can't see him doing that however.
So let me get this straight. Burke is ok with OS just not ones where they are "too high". So your argument is that Burke is fine with pointless OS like Gillis's last year? If an RFA sheet isn't "too high" what incentive is there for the former team to let the player go? Anytime you sign a FA, if you want them to actually play for you, you have to overpay.

More of Burke's highly malleable principles I suppose

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Burkes comments were

"This allows another team to set your budget"
"This elimates the team ability to nagotiate with their own players fairly"
"This eliminates the second contract"
"Ruins a team abilty to develop their own players"
"ONLY TEAMs WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN PLAYERS WOULD GO THIS ROUTE"
"Only a team who manager who has no clue would go this route"
Yeah. The stuff he said about "respecting the offersheet as a tool" was pretty obviously just the legal fine print to avoid getting in legal trouble with the NHLPA.

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What?! Why would Jannik Hansen of all people draw OS interest?!
So the leafs can have Hanson & Hansen?

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lol at bitter oilers fan. First of atleast wait till he actually give a offer sheet before ripping him off. Secondly he was right about penner's ridiculous offer sheet so i don't know y ur hating him. I am sure you guys would rather not have that lazy, overrated and overpaid penner on the team anyway so hate ur GM not Brain Burke

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