HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Free Agent Frenzy
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Free Agent Frenzy Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Burke to extend offer sheet to Hansen

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-19-2009, 06:49 AM
  #1
RangerBoy
#freejtmiller
 
RangerBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 32,803
vCash: 500
Burke to extend offer sheet to Hansen

Tony Gallagher from the Vancouver Province

Quote:
And then there's Shane O'Brien, Kyle Wellwood and Jannik Hansen who are restricted free agents, the latter entirely likely to get a nuisance offer from the Leafs, forcing Vancouver to either match a higher number than he's proven he's worth or hand him over to Toronto for a draft pick, something the Canucks might actually opt for if push comes to shove
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Se...519/story.html

RangerBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 06:54 AM
  #2
jumptheshark
McDavid Headquarters
 
jumptheshark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: EVIL EMPIRE
Country: United Nations
Posts: 60,202
vCash: 131
yeah Burk with an offer sheet

that would be fun entertainment for a few hours--

After his rants about the Penner deal--this place would inplode. Gallagher is just taking the piss out of people

__________________
"If the Detroit Red Wings are defying gravity" by consistently contending without the benefit of high draft picks, "the Edmonton Oilers are defying lift.

Welcome to Edmonton Connor McDavid--the rest of you HA HA HA HA HA HA
jumptheshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:10 AM
  #3
grabo84
Registered User
 
grabo84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Atlantic Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,624
vCash: 500
We don't have all of our own picks, so its very unlikely Toronto can even make an offer sheet.

grabo84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:20 AM
  #4
The Puck
Registered User
 
The Puck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,086
vCash: 500
Someone forgot to tell Tony Gallagher that Jannik Hansen and Christian Hanson are not brothers.

The Puck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:36 AM
  #5
Psycho Papa Joe
Porkchop Hoser
 
Psycho Papa Joe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cesspool, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 23,356
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by grabo84 View Post
We don't have all of our own picks, so its very unlikely Toronto can even make an offer sheet.
I would be for next year's and beyond picks though. I think the Leaf's have most of those.

Psycho Papa Joe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:41 AM
  #6
HoverCarle*
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,859
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to HoverCarle*
Well if Burke had actually said that, it would be tampering. It's just a writer's guess

HoverCarle* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:47 AM
  #7
grabo84
Registered User
 
grabo84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Atlantic Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,624
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho Papa Joe View Post
I would be for next year's and beyond picks though. I think the Leaf's have most of those.
Nope, thats what I mean. We don't have our second next year.

grabo84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:48 AM
  #8
jumptheshark
McDavid Headquarters
 
jumptheshark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: EVIL EMPIRE
Country: United Nations
Posts: 60,202
vCash: 131
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hovercraft View Post
Well if Burke had actually said that, it would be tampering. It's just a writer's guess
yep

people are forgetting that Burke tried to have Gallagher fired when Burke was in Vancouver

So--I think it is just Tony trying to cuase trouble

jumptheshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:49 AM
  #9
Psycho Papa Joe
Porkchop Hoser
 
Psycho Papa Joe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cesspool, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 23,356
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by grabo84 View Post
Nope, thats what I mean. We don't have our second next year.
Ok, my bad. Didn't recall them dealing that pick, which would be very necessary, I would guess, for an offer sheet for a guy the calibre of Hansen.

Psycho Papa Joe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 07:51 AM
  #10
Talentless Practise*
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,244
vCash: 500
If this happens, it'll be so much fun to see the uneducated come out in droves to bash Burke for criticising Lowe's offer-sheet, despite having been proven right. Despite the fact Burke's never said anything negative about an offer-sheet as a tool.

Talentless Practise* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 08:09 AM
  #11
jumptheshark
McDavid Headquarters
 
jumptheshark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: EVIL EMPIRE
Country: United Nations
Posts: 60,202
vCash: 131
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talentless Practise View Post
If this happens, it'll be so much fun to see the uneducated come out in droves to bash Burke for criticising Lowe's offer-sheet, despite having been proven right. Despite the fact Burke's never said anything negative about an offer-sheet as a tool.

Not going to tee off ya--but

suggest you google burke's comments abiout the offer sheet and how it will ruin business'

he teed off on the offer and the oilers using that option

suggest you review all the comments that he made

jumptheshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 08:13 AM
  #12
Peace Frog
Registered User
 
Peace Frog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,166
vCash: 500
Burke has never submitted an offer sheet on a player before and he isn't going to start now. Although he recognizes it as a legitimate way to conduct business under the CBA rules, he himself has never gone after a player in that way.

Peace Frog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 08:27 AM
  #13
LuG61
2015 Playoff Saviour
 
LuG61's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ducks
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,119
vCash: 1015
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Vagabond View Post
Not going to tee off ya--but

suggest you google burke's comments abiout the offer sheet and how it will ruin business'

he teed off on the offer and the oilers using that option

suggest you review all the comments that he made
Burke said Penners' offer sheet was grossly inflated and therefore sets a bar for other players to be paid money they are not worth.

LuG61 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 08:53 AM
  #14
Talentless Practise*
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 5,244
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Vagabond View Post
Not going to tee off ya--but

suggest you google burke's comments abiout the offer sheet and how it will ruin business'

he teed off on the offer and the oilers using that option

suggest you review all the comments that he made
Suggest you do the same and see the difference in his comments about using offer-sheets as a tool and that particular offer-sheet.

Now if he were to give out something ridiculous like 2.5 to Hansen then he could be blasted for everything he ever said about the Penner sheet, i can't see him doing that however.

Talentless Practise* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 08:53 AM
  #15
Marc the Habs Fan
Moderator
The best
 
Marc the Habs Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Longueuil
Country: Canada
Posts: 58,182
vCash: 567
What?! Why would Jannik Hansen of all people draw OS interest?!

Marc the Habs Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:35 AM
  #16
Beukeboom Fan
Registered User
 
Beukeboom Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 12,354
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho Papa Joe View Post
I would be for next year's and beyond picks though. I think the Leaf's have most of those.
I believe the Hawks have the Leafs 2nd rounder in 2010 via the Lang trade from Montreal, who got the pick for Grabovski.

Beukeboom Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:37 AM
  #17
Beukeboom Fan
Registered User
 
Beukeboom Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 12,354
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talentless Practise View Post
If this happens, it'll be so much fun to see the uneducated come out in droves to bash Burke for criticising Lowe's offer-sheet, despite having been proven right. Despite the fact Burke's never said anything negative about an offer-sheet as a tool.
So Burke was just saying something negative about the offer-sheet because he was on vacation or about to get inducted into the BC HOF? At least, I think that was it.

Beukeboom Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:41 AM
  #18
jumptheshark
McDavid Headquarters
 
jumptheshark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: EVIL EMPIRE
Country: United Nations
Posts: 60,202
vCash: 131
Burkes comments were

"This allows another team to set your budget"
"This elimates the team ability to nagotiate with their own players fairly"
"This eliminates the second contract"
"Ruins a team abilty to develop their own players"
"ONLY TEAMs WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN PLAYERS WOULD GO THIS ROUTE"
"Only a team who manager who has no clue would go this route"


not one comment about how much Penner was getting

Burke made a lot of comments over a year

swing by the oiler board and they will give even longer list of his comments where Penner's contract will not be mentioned

jumptheshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:44 AM
  #19
The Magic Man
With God given hands
 
The Magic Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,871
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan View Post
What?! Why would Jannik Hansen of all people draw OS interest?!
Maybe VAN doesn't want to offer him the 6-800g's he's worth.
If its more than a 2nd in compensation, I'm gonna puke.

The Magic Man is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:45 AM
  #20
Barney Gumble
Registered User
 
Barney Gumble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 22,434
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talentless Practise View Post
Suggest you do the same and see the difference in his comments about using offer-sheets as a tool and that particular offer-sheet.

Now if he were to give out something ridiculous like 2.5 to Hansen then he could be blasted for everything he ever said about the Penner sheet, i can't see him doing that however.
Problem is the whole point of giving an offer sheet is to give an offer that the other team won't match.

They either can't match due to cap concerns - which isn't a problem with the Canucks - or it's due to a team that feels the offer is a fair bit more than the player is worth (ie., overpaying for the player).

That's how you get an offer sheet to succeed - else it's just a "nuisance offer" sheet.

Barney Gumble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:47 AM
  #21
Psycho Papa Joe
Porkchop Hoser
 
Psycho Papa Joe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cesspool, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 23,356
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beukeboom Fan View Post
I believe the Hawks have the Leafs 2nd rounder in 2010 via the Lang trade from Montreal, who got the pick for Grabovski.
For some reason I thought that was the 2009 2nd.

Psycho Papa Joe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:50 AM
  #22
s7ark
Moderator
McDavid!!!!!!!!!!!
 
s7ark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 24,856
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talentless Practise View Post
Suggest you do the same and see the difference in his comments about using offer-sheets as a tool and that particular offer-sheet.

Now if he were to give out something ridiculous like 2.5 to Hansen then he could be blasted for everything he ever said about the Penner sheet, i can't see him doing that however.
So let me get this straight. Burke is ok with OS just not ones where they are "too high". So your argument is that Burke is fine with pointless OS like Gillis's last year? If an RFA sheet isn't "too high" what incentive is there for the former team to let the player go? Anytime you sign a FA, if you want them to actually play for you, you have to overpay.

More of Burke's highly malleable principles I suppose

s7ark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:53 AM
  #23
oilers_guy_eddie
Craig's not on it.
 
oilers_guy_eddie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: This Is Fail County
Country: Norfolk Island
Posts: 11,048
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Vagabond View Post
Burkes comments were

"This allows another team to set your budget"
"This elimates the team ability to nagotiate with their own players fairly"
"This eliminates the second contract"
"Ruins a team abilty to develop their own players"
"ONLY TEAMs WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO DEVELOP THEIR OWN PLAYERS WOULD GO THIS ROUTE"
"Only a team who manager who has no clue would go this route"
Yeah. The stuff he said about "respecting the offersheet as a tool" was pretty obviously just the legal fine print to avoid getting in legal trouble with the NHLPA.

oilers_guy_eddie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 09:59 AM
  #24
Carlos Ranger
Zucc-a-Rella
 
Carlos Ranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 5,238
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan View Post
What?! Why would Jannik Hansen of all people draw OS interest?!
So the leafs can have Hanson & Hansen?

Carlos Ranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-19-2009, 10:01 AM
  #25
leafsfan2
Registered User
 
leafsfan2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Markham,ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,586
vCash: 500
lol at bitter oilers fan. First of atleast wait till he actually give a offer sheet before ripping him off. Secondly he was right about penner's ridiculous offer sheet so i don't know y ur hating him. I am sure you guys would rather not have that lazy, overrated and overpaid penner on the team anyway so hate ur GM not Brain Burke

leafsfan2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:12 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.