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06-19-2009, 03:20 AM
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Just think about the Don Taylor'isms that will happen due to this.

"In heavenly fashion, Pope just hails down shots from the right corner"

or

"What a godly shot by Pope"

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06-19-2009, 04:24 AM
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Question I'm asking is whether this affiliation give the Canucks priority rights on people who are signed to Moose contracts. There was a post some time back that suggested this.

I think we all know that Pope was just signed by the Canucks and previous to this he was signed to a Moose contract. The point here is whether the Canucks have any special rights to a player like Desbiens.
None whatsoever. They're essentially unrestricted free agents. The advantage to signing with the parent club is that the player is familiar with the system and sometimes even coaching staff and likely would be given a greater chance to make the NHL club than a player from an other organization otherwise would.

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I heard he was planning on starting a "Pope's corner" giving underprivileged boys a chance to watch hockey games. In his bedroom.
At the press conference to announce the signing, Pope pulled a "Rick Rypien", requesting that the media ask no questions about his time in the Hitler Youth.

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None whatsoever. They're essentially unrestricted free agents. The advantage to signing with the parent club is that the player is familiar with the system and sometimes even coaching staff and likely would be given a greater chance to make the NHL club than a player from an other organization otherwise would.
But isn't Desbiens under contract to the Manitoba Moose next year. Least it says so here.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=19871709

Can't see how he can just void that contract and go where he pleases. I believe that he can be signed by the Canucks and then released from his present Moose contract. However, would not be released if signed somewhere else. Not sure of this but have heard the Canucks have one year window to sign him which, I guess, relates to the contract he has with the Moose.

I think in principle you're right that if a player is not under contract he can go anywhere. Yet, I believe if he is in the organization (such as farm club) then matters can be worked out between the farm club and the parent club.

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But isn't Desbiens under contract to the Manitoba Moose next year. Least it says so here.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=19871709

Can't see how he can just void that contract and go where he pleases. I believe that he can be signed by the Canucks and then released from his present Moose contract. However, would not be released if signed somewhere else. Not sure of this but have heard the Canucks have one year window to sign him which, I guess, relates to the contract he has with the Moose.

I think in principle you're right that if a player is not under contract he can go anywhere. Yet, I believe if he is in the organization (such as farm club) then matters can be worked out between the farm club and the parent club.
Wouldn't the Canucks effectively buy him from the Moose? I thought that was one of the benefits for AHL teams finding talent. If they developed one of their own players to the point of being NHL ready, an NHL team could buy out the contract before signing the player.

I don't know this for sure. But, I just thought there was a financial plum for the AHL club.

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The Moose didn't own Matt Pope's full AHL rights, as he wasn't signed to a standard player's contract (SPC). He was only signed to a pro-tryout (PTO) contract, which lasts anywhere from one to 25 games. So in essence, once the season ended, he became a free agent.

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desbiens did a interview acouple months ago and said that his first choice would be the canucks, also in the article it stated that since he is under contract with the moose, if another nhl team wants to sign him, the moose can choose not to let that happen, so the moose can pretty much save him until the canucks want him

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But isn't Desbiens under contract to the Manitoba Moose next year. Least it says so here.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=19871709

Can't see how he can just void that contract and go where he pleases. I believe that he can be signed by the Canucks and then released from his present Moose contract. However, would not be released if signed somewhere else. Not sure of this but have heard the Canucks have one year window to sign him which, I guess, relates to the contract he has with the Moose.

I think in principle you're right that if a player is not under contract he can go anywhere. Yet, I believe if he is in the organization (such as farm club) then matters can be worked out between the farm club and the parent club.
I believe there is an agreement written into all AHL contracts in that they can be voided if you want to sign with an NHL team.

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Manitoba Moose are obviously part of the Canuck organization. They have signed agreements between them. These gives the Moose certain rights and the Canucks certain rights.

Question I'm asking is whether this affiliation give the Canucks priority rights on people who are signed to Moose contracts. There was a post some time back that suggested this.

I think we all know that Pope was just signed by the Canucks and previous to this he was signed to a Moose contract. The point here is whether the Canucks have any special rights to a player like Desbiens.
As I stated, the affiliation between the Canucks and the Moose do not give the Canucks any special rights to Moose-signed players. Moose-signed players can be signed by any NHL team, unless there isn't an NHL out-clause in the player's specific contract - and no player would exclude that out-clause, for obvious reasons - or unless there's a specific clause requested by the player regarding transfers to specific teams.

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What's his potential and will he ever reach it?
Thats a question that can only be answered with the sky is the limit. I mean seriously, where you looking for someone here to tell you exactly how good this kid is really going to turn out?

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I hope the Canucks are shoveling the money at Heisinger.

Is there another AHL GM who has the same ability to find NHL talent in the rough?

Alex Burrows scored 28 goals last year.. unbelievable.
He has turned over a lot of rocks to find those few gems - just like a lot of other hockey people. Not that I don't appreciate the prospects that he has found, but to put it in perspective, he also signed Dusty Collins, Greg Rallo, Darryl Bootland, Travis Ramsey, Josh Soares, Tommy Maxwell, Andrew Martens, Dirk Southern, Derek Nesbitt, Olivier Labelle, Jordan Fox, Tim Spencer, Scott Howes, Oren Eizenman, Chris St. Croix, or Trevor Ludwig... and I don't see anybody getting too excited about them.

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He has turned over a lot of rocks to find those few gems - just like a lot of other hockey people. Not that I don't appreciate the prospects that he has found, but to put it in perspective, he also signed Dusty Collins, Greg Rallo, Darryl Bootland, Travis Ramsey, Josh Soares, Tommy Maxwell, Andrew Martens, Dirk Southern, Derek Nesbitt, Olivier Labelle, Jordan Fox, Tim Spencer, Scott Howes, Oren Eizenman, Chris St. Croix, or Trevor Ludwig... and I don't see anybody getting too excited about them.

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Obviously at the AHL level most of your signings are only for depth (and Derek Nesbitt and Trevor Ludwig are guys playing on NHL contracts)

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Thats a question that can only be answered with the sky is the limit. I mean seriously, where you looking for someone here to tell you exactly how good this kid is really going to turn out?
No, not exactly, just an estimate or an idea. I don't know much about Pope, but I would like to be informed as much as I can on the player. Wouldn't you?

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I hope we can trade for Satan and then Pope and Satan can play on the same line.

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And then when we play Washington Pope and Satan would get covered by Semin.

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And then when we play Washington Pope and Satan would get covered by Semin.
You have the comedic sense of an 8th grade pre-pubescent squirt. I didn't find it amusing in the slightest......

What are the chances that Pope makes the majors ??

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And then when we play Washington Pope and Satan would get covered by Semin.

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Here's a great article on the Moose scouting success:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...-46539107.html

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Maybe he's had the opportunity already, who knows. We just have to thank our lucky stars. Him and Lorne Henning have a great relationship. Lorne is an awesome guy, incredibly smart about the game both on and off the ice. Great decision by Gillis to not only keep him around, but to promote him.
If Craig Heisinger has turned down millions of dollars to live in Winnipeg, then he's certifiably insane and the Canucks should probably stop taking his advice.

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Best pope.
Lando was a great Pope, no question. But I submit, for your perusal, St. Hilarius (461-68).

Lando had the charm, but Hilarius was a funny as ... uh ... some really funny stuff.

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The two games I saw of Pope on TV I was impressed. When I didn't know what number Hodgson was I found myself watching Pope for half a game thinking he was Hodgson. I like the signing a lot.

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Best pope.
Lando? Nope.

If he had been, there would have been a Lando II.

(I think his downfall was his ruling on the Albigensian Schism of 913.)

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Lando? Nope.

If he had been, there would have been a Lando II.

(I think his downfall was his ruling on the Albigensian Schism of 913.)
He's clearly so awesome no other Pope felt worthy of taking his name.

His downfall was when he died 6 months after being elected (and he was only elected because of his rich friends). He was a useless pope.

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