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HOT 3-Way (Heatley)!!!

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06-20-2009, 12:36 PM
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I doubt Heatley wants anything to do with Tampa, they're even worse off than the Sens.

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06-20-2009, 12:37 PM
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How about:

Tampa:
Marc Staal
9th overall
Ottawa:
47th overall pick (NYR)
Brandon Dubinsky
Lauri Korpikoski
NYR:
2nd overall
Martins Karsums

Tampa gives- 2nd overall, Karsums
NYR gives-Dubinsky, Staal, Korpikoski, 47th overall
Ottawa gives-9th overall

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06-20-2009, 12:37 PM
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Good deal because TB isn't really an organization.

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06-20-2009, 12:39 PM
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How about:

Tampa:
Marc Staal
9th overall
Ottawa:
47th overall pick (NYR)
Brandon Dubinsky
Lauri Korpikoski
NYR:
2nd overall
Martins Karsums

Tampa gives- 2nd overall, Karsums
NYR gives-Dubinsky, Staal, Korpikoski, 47th overall
Ottawa gives-9th overall
Wait what? Why the hell would the Sens give up the 9th overall for Dubinski and Korpikoski? No f-ing way.

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06-20-2009, 12:41 PM
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That's a little bit better but you still havent answered why TBL would do this. If they want to trade VL because they looking to rebuild and want to shed high priced vets then why on gods green earth would they trade VL just to get back another high priced vet??? Also trading the #2 pick is counter productive to a rebuild don't you think???
see above your post.

McDonagh-Meszaros
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That would be a nice d corps to build around.

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The point is that TBL can probably get JJ + #5 pick + another good prospect from the LAK for VL if they want and TBL would STILL keep the #2 pick. Even if TBL could then turn around an trade DH to LAK for the same package they could get for VL it would still be better for to keep the #2 pick than trade it for the #18 pick, Plekanec and McDonagh.

Last, the Sens can most likely get far more for Heatley than just the #2 pick and Higgins so they wouldn't do this either.
And montreal could get more than Lecavalier for Higgins, Plekanec, McDonagh and 18th overall!! Everyone could get more somehow!!

I think you're somehow overrating everyone's players from each of their perspectives.

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06-20-2009, 12:42 PM
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see above.

McDonagh-Meszaros
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That would be a nice d corps to build around.



And montreal could get more than Lecavalier for Higgins, Plekanec, McDonagh and 18th overall!! Everyone could get more somehow!!

I think you're somehow overrating everyone's players from each of their perspectives.
Uhm... No the Canadians could not get more than Lecavelier for Higgins, Plekanec, McDonagh and 18th overall.

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06-20-2009, 12:48 PM
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Uhm... No the Canadians could not get more than Lecavelier for Higgins, Plekanec, McDonagh and 18th overall.
I think you're underrating McDonagh.. he is the the 18th rated prospect according to HF (ie. above Karlsson).

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06-20-2009, 01:39 PM
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I think you're underrating McDonagh.. he is the the 18th rated prospect according to HF (ie. above Karlsson).
1) Overall prospect lists don't mean much.
2) Pretty sure Higgins is either an RFA/UFA or in the last year of his deal.
3) Plekanec has yet to show he's more than a 3rd line center.
4) Even if McDonagh + 18th turn out to be worthwhile, the Kings would probably offer something like Frolov / JJ / 5th which > the Montreal offer.

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06-20-2009, 01:45 PM
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Uhm... No the Canadians could not get more than Lecavelier for Higgins, Plekanec, McDonagh and 18th overall.
Wow, get the team's name right for starters.

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Wow, get the team's name right for starters.
Can't. I lost all respect for their organization when they traded #33 .

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06-20-2009, 02:07 PM
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Can't. I lost all respect for their organization when they traded #33 .

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06-20-2009, 02:36 PM
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To Ottawa: 2nd overall, D'agostini, O'byrne

To Montreal: Lecavalier

To TB: Heatley, Plekanec, Carle, 9th overall, 18th overall


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06-20-2009, 02:37 PM
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This is definitely HOT. I am shocked (yet strangely intrigued) by how HOT this is.

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06-20-2009, 02:50 PM
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To Ottawa: 2nd overall, D'agostini

To Montreal: Lecavalier

To TB: Heatley, Plekanec, Carle, 9th overall, 18th overall

Ottawa overpay

Heatley + 9th gets us the 2nd and D'agostini?

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06-20-2009, 03:24 PM
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Ottawa overpay

Heatley + 9th gets us the 2nd and D'agostini?

I know. My only reaction to the proposal was:

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06-20-2009, 03:45 PM
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Well despite not beeing a centre, i think HEATLEY is comparable to lecavalier...Lecavalier is more of a leadership and presence, but Heatley will put up more pts on the scoring board.

So it Bring it down to 2nd overall for Plekanec and 18 OA...not THAT bad, but definitly think they can get a better offer for the 2nd.

HOWEVER, if they make a better deal for the 2nd OA, they won't probably get a player like HEATLEY for Lecavalier...

SO overall i think that might be a deal for all three teams.
Let's see what everyone thinks!
How will they not get a player like Heatley for Vinnie. Vinnie put up more points then Heatley in 4 of the 9 seasons they played. Vinnie has also played 3 more seasons then Heatley. Vinnie has a cup ring. Heatley does not. Tampa get's ripped brutally in this deal. I could see a swap of the two simply so that Tampa can lose the term on vinnie's contract but I don't see that either. Montreal would have to add a good chunk to get Tampa to move the 1st and Vinnie

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06-20-2009, 03:55 PM
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How will they not get a player like Heatley for Vinnie. Vinnie put up more points then Heatley in 4 of the 9 seasons they played. Vinnie has also played 3 more seasons then Heatley. Vinnie has a cup ring. Heatley does not. Tampa get's ripped brutally in this deal. I could see a swap of the two simply so that Tampa can lose the term on vinnie's contract but I don't see that either. Montreal would have to add a good chunk to get Tampa to move the 1st and Vinnie
Anybody in Tampa has a cup ring, making that somewhat moot.

As to Vinnie playing more points in 4 of 9, that means in 5 of 9 Heatley's put up more. I also don't recall Vinnie scoring 50g, but I could be wrong. Heatley's done it twice. Not to mention the 40g seasons. Heatley is the better player between them statistically, this isn't really even debatable.

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06-20-2009, 08:17 PM
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Ottawa overpay

Heatley + 9th gets us the 2nd and D'agostini?
oops...
was cutting and pasting names back and forth and forgot to add one...

heatley + 9th for 2nd, D'agostini, O'byrne.

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35mil (31mil if Ottawa pays bonus) < 85mil.

TB also gets an affordable 2nd line center and a potential cheap #1 dman.
if i am tampa's gm i would draft hedman and trade vinny for wingers/d-men

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06-20-2009, 08:35 PM
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Lol, a hot three way?
exactly my first thought lol

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Ottawa gets ripped off in this thread.

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Tampa Bay says ***** off

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so Montreal gives up basically nothing of value and gets VL??? That's pretty retarded. Why not just take the Habs and the picks out of it and just make it DH for VL. That's probably fair but I still don't understand why TBL would do it, they want to shed salary and big named players, not take on more.
Just look what they got for Brad Richards. I dont think were far from that package here. Lecavaliers value could very well be surprisingly low now IF they are indeed shopping him.

Heatley for Lecavalier wont work. Whole objective for Tampa is to lose some salary, Heatley is making 8 million next three years with his contract.


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why do people always want three way trades. they're always horrible.

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06-21-2009, 06:36 AM
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Just look what they got for Brad Richards. I dont think were far from that package here. Lecavaliers value could very well be surprisingly low now IF they are indeed shopping him.

Heatley for Lecavalier wont work. Whole objective for Tampa is to lose some salary, Heatley is making 8 million next three years with his contract.
How this translates into everyone getting ripped off for Les Habitants benefit, is still a mystery though.

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