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06-21-2009, 09:09 PM
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To VAN:
Marco Sturm
Zack Hamill
rights to Matt Hunwick



to BOS:
Kevin Bieksa
Taylor Ellington
2nd round pick 09

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06-21-2009, 09:11 PM
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I wouldn't do that if I was Boston.

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Close but if Bieksa is moved its for a better top 6 foward than Sturm.

Replace Sturm and Hamill with Bergeron and a lesser prospect and as a Nucks fan I would probably do the trade

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06-21-2009, 09:14 PM
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how bout just Biek so Berg straight up? they save on the cap, we get a guy who can play big mins and all situations. they cant keep kessel this way

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Hunwick is literally the only effective puck mover the Bruins have and because of this they are looking for more. So by making this trade, we actually downgrade in our position of need.

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Close but if Bieksa is moved its for a better top 6 foward than Sturm.

Replace Sturm and Hamill with Bergeron and a lesser prospect and as a Nucks fan I would probably do the trade
we're not getting Bergeron.

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06-21-2009, 09:25 PM
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Close but if Bieksa is moved its for a better top 6 foward than Sturm.

Replace Sturm and Hamill with Bergeron and a lesser prospect and as a Nucks fan I would probably do the trade
Of course the Canucks would... But Boston most certainly reufuses that one. Moreso than they do this one.

The Bruins get older in the back-end.
The Bruins get more expensive in the back-end.
The Bruins lose a potential top-6 center.
The Bruins lose a 25+ goal, great 2-way player.
The Bruins lose a 24 year old who was on a 41 point pace last season.

The Bruins get a 28 year old, who was on pace for 49 points last season.
The Bruins get a D-man who really isn't better than Alexandrov or McQuaid
The Bruins get a 2nd round pick


Why does Boston do this? They essentially add 10 or so points from the back end while subtracting 50 from upfront, and getting older in the process... And barely save any cap room.

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06-21-2009, 09:29 PM
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Of course the Canucks would... But Boston most certainly reufuses that one. Moreso than they do this one.

The Bruins get older in the back-end.
The Bruins get more expensive in the back-end.
The Bruins lose a potential top-6 center.
The Bruins lose a 25+ goal, great 2-way player.
The Bruins lose a 24 year old who was on a 41 point pace last season.

The Bruins get a 28 year old, who was on pace for 49 points last season.
The Bruins get a D-man who really isn't better than Alexandrov or McQuaid
The Bruins get a 2nd round pick


Why does Boston do this? They essentially add 10 or so points from the back end while subtracting 50 from upfront, and getting older in the process... And barely save any cap room.
Edler for Kessel and Kobasew

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Edler for Kessel and Kobasew
More like Edler+ for Kessel...

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More like Edler+ for Kessel...

edler is still signed to a great contract. yet you want more for kessel.
ha.
walk away

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edler is still signed to a great contract. yet you want more for kessel.
ha.
walk away
He's signed to a great contract for about 2 more weeks. Then he gets 3.25. I'd take Kessel at 4.25-4.75 over Edler at 3.25.

ha.
Walk away.

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He's signed to a great contract for about 2 more weeks. Then he gets 3.25. I'd take Kessel at 4.25-4.75 over Edler at 3.25.

ha.
Walk away.
honestly if i were boston, id just reap the benefits of the 5.5 mill offer sheet he gets.
youll be able to keep Hunwick.
I know Boston wants a RH'd dman who can move the puck.
so we shall just keep our players and move on

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honestly if i were boston, id just reap the benefits of the 5.5 mill offer sheet he gets.
youll be able to keep Hunwick.
I know Boston wants a RH'd dman who can move the puck.
so we shall just keep our players and move on
Find a link that shows he'd get 5.5M offersheets.

ha.
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Of course the Canucks would... But Boston most certainly reufuses that one. Moreso than they do this one.

The Bruins get older in the back-end.
The Bruins get more expensive in the back-end.
The Bruins lose a potential top-6 center.
The Bruins lose a 25+ goal, great 2-way player.
The Bruins lose a 24 year old who was on a 41 point pace last season.

The Bruins get a 28 year old, who was on pace for 49 points last season.
The Bruins get a D-man who really isn't better than Alexandrov or McQuaid
The Bruins get a 2nd round pick


Why does Boston do this? They essentially add 10 or so points from the back end while subtracting 50 from upfront, and getting older in the process... And barely save any cap room.
lol older by 4 years, yeah big difference buddy.

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Edler for Kessel and Kobasew
Someone please stop the insanity. Anyone...please...

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lol older by 4 years, yeah big difference buddy.
Yea..."buddy". It is a pretty big difference.

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Bieksa for Bergeron is questionable. Bergeron's performance has not been enough to justify his relatively large cap hit ever since his injury. That being said, if he ever does get back to that level he becomes a bargain.

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Bieksa for Bergeron is questionable. Bergeron's performance has not been enough to justify his relatively large cap hit ever since his injury. That being said, if he ever does get back to that level he becomes a bargain.
Getting Bergeron is low-risk, high-reward...

At the very worst, Bergy will give you 40-50 points with unbelievable defensive play and great leadership.

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edler is still signed to a great contract. yet you want more for kessel.
ha.
walk away
Lol at Edler for Kessel and Kobasew. Might be the worst offer I've seen in a while, and I overrate Edler and think hes a beast.

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06-22-2009, 01:12 AM
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Getting Bergeron is low-risk, high-reward...

At the very worst, Bergy will give you 40-50 points with unbelievable defensive play and great leadership.
We both know that's not a worst case scenario for Patrice Bergeron. I'd like to see the Canucks make a play for him but it is a risky proposition.

Do Bruin fans think the B's will try to re-sign Marc Savard and go with him and Krejci as their 1st and 2nd line centremen? Or is Bergeron and Krejci the prefered longterm duo up the middle?

Is Kessel more expendable than Bergeron?

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We both know that's not a worst case scenario for Patrice Bergeron. I'd like to see the Canucks make a play for him but it is a risky proposition.

Do Bruin fans think the B's will try to re-sign Marc Savard and go with him and Krejci as their 1st and 2nd line centremen? Or is Bergeron and Krejci the prefered longterm duo up the middle?

Is Kessel more expendable than Bergeron?
Bergeron had the worst possible season he could have last season.

And no, neither Kessel or Bergeron are expendable.

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Getting Bergeron is low-risk, high-reward...

At the very worst, Bergy will give you 40-50 points with unbelievable defensive play and great leadership.
40-50 points for 4.75 M cap hit?

Bergeron is LOW risk?

How many games has he played in the last two years?
How many goals has he scored in the last two years?
How many points has he got in the last two years?

40-50 points is a possibility, considering prorated 82 games he would have had 50 points along with 10 goals. Near a 5 M cap hit as well. Sorry but Bergeron as low risk is laughable.

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40-50 points for 4.75 M cap hit?

Bergeron is LOW risk?

How many games has he played in the last two years?
How many goals has he scored in the last two years?
How many points has he got in the last two years?

40-50 points is a possibility, considering prorated 82 games he would have had 50 points along with 10 goals. Near a 5 M cap hit as well. Sorry but Bergeron as low risk is laughable.
Yep. If you don't like it don't offer for him. Boston isn't going to trade him unless 1 of 2 scenarios happens:
1. They are in desperate and I mean desperate need of cap space (if they are not desperate Ryder, Sturm, Kobasew, Ward, Ference all go first).

2. A team overpays for him.

I don't see either happening.

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40-50 points for 4.75 M cap hit?

Bergeron is LOW risk?

How many games has he played in the last two years?
How many goals has he scored in the last two years?
How many points has he got in the last two years?

40-50 points is a possibility, considering prorated 82 games he would have had 50 points along with 10 goals. Near a 5 M cap hit as well. Sorry but Bergeron as low risk is laughable.
Playing box-score GM is fun.

Bergeron is low-risk. You know what you're getting. Low risk.

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Playing box-score GM is fun.

Bergeron is low-risk. You know what you're getting. Low risk.
Getting low and high mixed up? That's new...

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