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06-25-2009, 07:27 PM
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They said on CKAC that Gainey won't make him an offer until at least July 1st, but that he could still come back.

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Its crazy how much people overreact on simple statements made by Gainey. Don't over analyze.
So I guess that this statement also goes for people who are happy to not see Bouillon back....'cause that's over analyzing as well. Gainey did say that he'll talk to Bouillon after July 1st.

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06-25-2009, 07:38 PM
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So I guess that this statement also goes for people who are happy to not see Bouillon back....'cause that's over analyzing as well. Gainey did say that he'll talk to Bouillon after July 1st.
That actually proves what I said. That Gainey has put priority on those players VERSUS Dandy, Cube and Breezer. There is nothing more to it.

Whereas, It's not overanalyzing when you've heard the media say all day that Bouillon WON'T be offered a contract. It's just stating what's been said. I didn't hear Gainey said that he will talk to Bouillon, and that doesn't mean he'll offer him a contract anyway.

PS.: I posted and right after I wanted to delete that last phrase, but there was a brownout right at the moment I went to edit my post, if it can make you feel any better and not be pissed off.

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06-25-2009, 07:46 PM
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That actually proves what I said. That Gainey has put priority on those players VERSUS Dandy, Cube and Breezer. There is nothing more to it.

Whereas, It's not overanalyzing when you've heard the media say all day that Bouillon WON'T be offered a contract. It's just stating what's been said. I didn't hear Gainey said that he will talk to Bouillon, and that doesn't mean he'll offer him a contract anyway.

PS.: I posted and right after I wanted to delete that last phrase, but there was a brownout right at the moment I went to edit my post, if it can make you feel any better and not be pissed off.
No prob. I'm used to your style now anyways....

As far as the media are concerned, well if somebody know their agenda it's you. I've heard Gainey said that Bouillon is amongst the players that he's not going to talk to before July 1st. So he's not a priority. Which means he could still end up in Montreal Brisebois style. Journalists are trying to portrait that he's not interested AT ALL in him 'cause they are not contacting him before July 1st. As if, after July 1st, that's it, no chance of talking and seeing if they can reach an agreement. Which is not true, as we saw as far as Breezer is concerned. The problem with Bouillon and why some media might be saying what they said is that contrary to Brisebois, there is interest amongst other teams. And Bouillon will probably be more interested in starting over than to wait for Bob to call.

So Media are saying Bob doesn't want Bouillon back, Gainey says he's not a priority but I will contact him after July 1st. I see a difference. Clearly Gainey wouldn't mind losing him but might not mind having him back. It's not as black and white.

But when it comes to his priorities, I just don't see Schneider as being one of them. Not with all the other average to good guys available.

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06-25-2009, 08:03 PM
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No prob. I'm used to your style now anyways....

As far as the media are concerned, well if somebody know their agenda it's you. I've heard Gainey said that Bouillon is amongst the players that he's not going to talk to before July 1st. So he's not a priority. Which means he could still end up in Montreal Brisebois style. Journalists are trying to portrait that he's not interested AT ALL in him 'cause they are not contacting him before July 1st. As if, after July 1st, that's it, no chance of talking and seeing if they can reach an agreement. Which is not true, as we saw as far as Breezer is concerned. The problem with Bouillon and why some media might be saying what they said is that contrary to Brisebois, there is interest amongst other teams. And Bouillon will probably be more interested in starting over than to wait for Bob to call.

So Media are saying Bob doesn't want Bouillon back, Gainey says he's not a priority but I will contact him after July 1st. I see a difference. Clearly Gainey wouldn't mind losing him but might not mind having him back. It's not as black and white.

But when it comes to his priorities, I just don't see Schneider as being one of them. Not with all the other average to good guys available.
Fair enough (seems a common comment these days on this board... oh so politically correct ).

Still, Gainey might just wanna make sure he has Schneider as a PP specialist and 5th to 7th dmen. With the success Schneider has had with the Habs on the PP and overall (17 points in 21 games), teams might be interested in him, way more than they would be in Cube, Dandy or Breezer. Also, Martin aims at a puck possesion team, if that's the case, you want to have Schneider rather than not. Especially if you think you can have him at a discount, I would too make him a priority over Breezer, Cube and Dandy, and especially make sure we can have an agreement before teams start jumping on him after the 3-5 most wanted Dmen are gone after one or two days after July 1st, and offers him something way over what Gainey is planning on giving him, even if Schneider would refuse that offer from the other team, he could then ask more than what Gainey is offering. And like I've said before, I don't think it will take time to reach an agreement with Mathieu, as he seems really keen on coming back. But I would make sure that he doesn't go anywhere, so prioritize him before July 1st does make sense, and I'm pretty sure he comes after the 4 others he named.

To me, its just Gainey making sure his plans don't get bumped after July 1st, and those plans include Schneider, probably at a low cost.

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06-25-2009, 09:54 PM
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no offer to Dandeneault
No offer to Bouillon
No offer to Brisebois
no offer to Kostopoulos
Let's see what happens with Tanguay
Let's get rid of Latendresse and Lapierre in a trade AND YES

We are free on those damn frenchies, we can finally become the Montreal CANADIANS! (to go with the Molson CANADIAN

How sweet it will be

Can wait to boo the living crap out of Gainey and Timmins tomorow... Specially when they draft a nice american with the Habs first pick.
you right there, and people like you, are the biggest problem facing the montreal canadiens in fielding a winning team. You dont care about winning or losing, you just want the players to be quebecois.
I actually believe if we had the first overall pick, you'd want leblanc, caron or any quebecois player, just because.....The management team is trying to build a team that can compete for the cup, not build the quebec national team. Look, i'm sad at seeing bouillon go because he gave his all his heart for the habs and i still think he should kept as the number 6 d-man. But you better not ****ing boo because the habs picked an ''anglo'' and skipped over a quebecois. That right there is ignorance and incompetence mixed in one. Open your ******* window and see that there is a whole world out there. Shut your mouth and applaud the the kid the habs will have drafted, wherever he`s from. Try and read about the player before passing judgement.

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no offer to Dandeneault
No offer to Bouillon
No offer to Brisebois
no offer to Kostopoulos
Let's see what happens with Tanguay
Let's get rid of Latendresse and Lapierre in a trade AND YES

We are free of those damn frenchies, we can finally become the Montreal CANADIANS! (to go with the Molson CANADIAN

How sweet it will be

Can wait to boo the living crap out of Gainey and Timmins tomorow... Specially when they draft a nice american with the Habs first pick.

For the ones wondering, i know Kosto is no french but he does speak the language.
Please GTFO.

So if Leblanc is gone when the Habs draft, will you boo Timmins and Gainey because they didn't draft the other Quebecers in the draft who are second round bound players? I bet you would.

Dear lord I can't wait until the No-dicks come back to Quebec so we don't have to hear that kinda crap anymore.

Did you know that in the last 10 years, the Habs have drafted the most LHJMQ/Quebec born players in the whole league???

Did you know that in the last 10 years, only 11 Quebecers were drafted in the first round (including 2 of them as #1s)? Makes it a little hard to draft those players when there are 30 teams in the league, don't you think?

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06-25-2009, 10:43 PM
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Politics aside, I will go on record in saying that I'm disappointed to see Bouillon go. He was one of the few gritty players on this team, with Komo (who might also be gone), Laraque and Kostopoulos. Lapierre and Latendresse can try all they want, they don't have that sandpaper style... Let's get more dipsy-doodlers!

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06-25-2009, 11:19 PM
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Politics aside, I will go on record in saying that I'm disappointed to see Bouillon go. He was one of the few gritty players on this team, with Komo (who might also be gone), Laraque and Kostopoulos. Lapierre and Latendresse can try all they want, they don't have that sandpaper style... Let's get more dipsy-doodlers!

Lapierre and Latendresse have a lot more sandpaper than Laraque who wants to be everybody's friend and makes them sign a realease before he fights.

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A litte bit surprising...
surprising?????

Ive wanted Bouillon gone for a ****ing long time, and had prayers everyday I went on tsn that he would be gone. I'd say surprising, but in a GREAT way!

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Can wait to boo the living crap out of Gainey and Timmins tomorow... Specially when they draft a nice american with the Habs first pick.
And then you'll cry because no player will want to come here except the leftover scraps.

Who would want to play in a city where fans boo an 18 year old kid who just got drafted? Nobody who can play anywhere else.

Yes, I know, those fans are the minority, but perception is reality (or something like that).

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06-26-2009, 09:24 AM
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This is good news!! I liked Boullion for how he played and what he was able to accomplish for such a small defencemen, but he wasn't as good as everybody thought he was.

He was too small to be able to contain the other teams big power forwards. He gave it all he had, but he didn't have a long reach or the leverage to overpower bigger forwards and he was terrible with the puck in his own end.

We have young prospects who are bigger than Boullion and are able to play as well defensively as Frankie too.

Time to go in a different direction. Thanks for your services "Beef"

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Don't know if anybody here heard Michel «Le tigre» Bergeron yesterday on CKAC ?

It was so funny. He didn't like that Gainey could let go a player that tried to play injured in the playoffs and that it's a big lack of respect to Bouillon.

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Don't know if anybody here heard Michel «Le tigre» Bergeron yesterday on CKAC ?

It was so funny. He didn't like that Gainey could let go a player that tried to play injured in the playoffs and that it's a big lack of respect to Bouillon.

This doesn't matter at all.

He TRIED to play injured in the playoffs....but he didn't play all 4 playoffs games did he? Lots of players play injured and endure the pain....Frankie tried and couldn't do it.

Maybe that was the reason Gainey let him go....because he couldn't suck it up and play through the pain....who knows. Maybe Gainey is sick of seeing Boullion injured and missing games every year. He's had injury problems in the past and missed time when the team could have used him. Maybe Gainey wants a defencemen who doesn't get injured as often and who is rock solid on the blueline.

Can't blame Gainey for wanting to improve our team!!!

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