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Max Lapierre vs Max Talbot

View Poll Results: Who's the better player ?
Max Lapierre 15 17.86%
Max Talbot 69 82.14%
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06-25-2009, 11:34 PM
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Love Lapierre too, and they're cut from the same cloth, but you can't vote against "Gamer".

He exudes clutch.

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06-25-2009, 11:38 PM
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I should be bias as a Montreal fan, but Talbot has better stats. And no one here can say Talbot has more heart than Laps. I've never really followed Talbot, but Lapierre lays it out 60 minutes a game.

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06-25-2009, 11:44 PM
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I have no issue with you voting Lapierre but he is not better offensively.
Maybe you should do your research before saying something like that.

Maxime Lapierre 08/09 15 g 13 a 28pts +9
Maxime Talbot 08/09 10g 12a 22 pts -9

This poll is ridiculous and is based solely on talbot's performance in this years finals.

Lapierre has drastically gotten better at faceoffs and he is a stud at penalty killing. And when is he ever not giving it 110%.
He is 3 inches taller, 20 pounds heavier, 1 year younger. I gotta go with my boy on this one.


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06-26-2009, 12:04 AM
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Maybe you should do your research before saying something like that.

Maxime Lapierre 08/09 15 g 13 a 28pts +9
Maxime Talbot 08/09 10g 22a 22 pts -9

This poll is ridiculous and is based solely on talbot's performance in this years finals.

Lapierre has drastically gotten better at faceoffs and he is a stud at penalty killing. And when is he ever not giving it 110%.
He is 3 inches taller, 20 pounds heavier, 1 year younger. I gotta go with my boy on this one.
Since when does 10 + 22= 22?

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06-26-2009, 12:09 AM
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If you would have asked before the playoffs, I would have said Lapierre, Talbot got 2 important goals but I think Lapierre is the "better player" and that is the question.

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06-26-2009, 12:42 AM
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Maybe you should do your research before saying something like that.

Maxime Lapierre 08/09 15 g 13 a 28pts +9
Maxime Talbot 08/09 10g 22a 22 pts -9

This poll is ridiculous and is based solely on talbot's performance in this years finals.

Lapierre has drastically gotten better at faceoffs and he is a stud at penalty killing. And when is he ever not giving it 110%.
He is 3 inches taller, 20 pounds heavier, 1 year younger. I gotta go with my boy on this one.
You're telling me that I should do my research?

Alright, let's go back and look at their entire careers, shall we? First Talbot, then Lapierre.

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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2000-01 Rouyn-Noranda Huskies QMJHL 40 9 15 24 78 -- -- -- -- --
2000-01 Hull Olympiques QMJHL 24 6 7 13 60 5 1 0 1 2
2001-02 Hull Olympiques QMJHL 65 24 36 60 174 12 4 6 10 51
2002-03 Hull Olympiques QMJHL 69 46 58 104 130 20 14 30 44 33
2003-04 Gatineau Olympiques QMJHL 51 25 73 98 41 15 11 16 27 0
2004-05 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pen AHL 75 7 12 19 62 11 0 1 1 22
2005-06 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 48 5 3 8 59 -- -- -- -- --
2005-06 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pen AHL 42 12 20 32 80 11 3 6 9 16
2006-07 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pen AHL 5 4 0 4 2 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 75 13 11 24 53 5 0 1 1 7
2007-08 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 63 12 14 26 53 17 3 6 9 36
2008-09 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 75 12 10 22 63 24 8 5 13 19

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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2001-02 Montreal Rocket QMJHL 9 2 0 2 2 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 Montreal Rocket QMJHL 72 22 21 43 55 7 1 3 4 6
2003-04 Prince Edward Island Rock QMJHL 67 25 36 61 138 11 7 2 9 14
2004-05 Prince Edward Island Rock QMJHL 69 25 27 52 139 -- -- -- -- --
2005-06 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 73 13 23 36 214 -- -- -- -- --
2005-06 Montreal Canadiens NHL 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 37 11 13 24 59 22 6 6 12 41
2006-07 Montreal Canadiens NHL 46 6 6 12 24 -- -- -- -- --
2007-08 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 19 7 7 14 63 -- -- -- -- --
2007-08 Montreal Canadiens NHL 53 7 11 18 60 12 0 3 3 6
2008-09 Montreal Canadiens NHL 79 15 13 28 76 4 0 0 0 26

Talbot's been a bigger scorer than Lapierre at every level, except for last year when he had 6 fewer points in an admitted down year, before stepping up huge in the playoffs. Lapierre, meanwhile, did nothing in the playoffs but pile up PIMs.

And that's just a statistical comparison. From watching both of them play, it's obvious that Talbot possesses more skill. Lapierre's a fine player but you do him a disservice by exaggerating and offering nothing more than one season's stats to support your case. Oh wait, I forgot, he's 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier. Wow!

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06-26-2009, 12:51 AM
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You're telling me that I should do my research?

Alright, let's go back and look at their entire careers, shall we? First Talbot, then Lapierre.

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2000-01 Rouyn-Noranda Huskies QMJHL 40 9 15 24 78 -- -- -- -- --
2000-01 Hull Olympiques QMJHL 24 6 7 13 60 5 1 0 1 2
2001-02 Hull Olympiques QMJHL 65 24 36 60 174 12 4 6 10 51
2002-03 Hull Olympiques QMJHL 69 46 58 104 130 20 14 30 44 33
2003-04 Gatineau Olympiques QMJHL 51 25 73 98 41 15 11 16 27 0
2004-05 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pen AHL 75 7 12 19 62 11 0 1 1 22
2005-06 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 48 5 3 8 59 -- -- -- -- --
2005-06 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pen AHL 42 12 20 32 80 11 3 6 9 16
2006-07 Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Pen AHL 5 4 0 4 2 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 75 13 11 24 53 5 0 1 1 7
2007-08 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 63 12 14 26 53 17 3 6 9 36
2008-09 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 75 12 10 22 63 24 8 5 13 19

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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2001-02 Montreal Rocket QMJHL 9 2 0 2 2 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 Montreal Rocket QMJHL 72 22 21 43 55 7 1 3 4 6
2003-04 Prince Edward Island Rock QMJHL 67 25 36 61 138 11 7 2 9 14
2004-05 Prince Edward Island Rock QMJHL 69 25 27 52 139 -- -- -- -- --
2005-06 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 73 13 23 36 214 -- -- -- -- --
2005-06 Montreal Canadiens NHL 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 37 11 13 24 59 22 6 6 12 41
2006-07 Montreal Canadiens NHL 46 6 6 12 24 -- -- -- -- --
2007-08 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 19 7 7 14 63 -- -- -- -- --
2007-08 Montreal Canadiens NHL 53 7 11 18 60 12 0 3 3 6
2008-09 Montreal Canadiens NHL 79 15 13 28 76 4 0 0 0 26

Talbot's been a bigger scorer than Lapierre at every level, except for last year when he had 6 fewer points in an admitted down year, before stepping up huge in the playoffs. Lapierre, meanwhile, did nothing in the playoffs but pile up PIMs.

And that's just a statistical comparison. From watching both of them play, it's obvious that Talbot possesses more skill. Lapierre's a fine player but you do him a disservice by exaggerating and offering nothing more than one season's stats to support your case. Oh wait, I forgot, he's 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier. Wow!
Stats are pretty useless in this case. Talbot plays wing with Pittsburgh, sometimes with Malkin, and Lapierre is with the Habs, with 3rd line wingers arguably better than whatever's on the Pens' 1st line right now. There's not just a big enough difference to judge with points. I'll take Talbot with a clean conscience even using the "what you did for me lately" because 2 goals in game 7 of the SCF in a 2-1 victory, it doesn't get any better than this.

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Maybe you should do your research before saying something like that.

Maxime Lapierre 08/09 15 g 13 a 28pts +9
Maxime Talbot 08/09 10g 22a 22 pts -9

This poll is ridiculous and is based solely on talbot's performance in this years finals.

Lapierre has drastically gotten better at faceoffs and he is a stud at penalty killing. And when is he ever not giving it 110%.
He is 3 inches taller, 20 pounds heavier, 1 year younger. I gotta go with my boy on this one.
Exactly. This post sums it up.

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Since when does 10 + 22= 22?
Indeed. Its actually 12G+10A = 22

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Talbot's been a bigger scorer than Lapierre at every level, except for last year when he had 6 fewer points in an admitted down year, before stepping up huge in the playoffs. Lapierre, meanwhile, did nothing in the playoffs but pile up PIMs.
Lapierre still has a higher career high then Talbot and is younger. Lapierre also plays with Latendresse&Kostopoulos on the 3rd or 4th line while Talbot had the luxury of playing shifts with Malkin and Crosby at times and at worse Staal.

That being said they are pretty similar, but I'll take the 6'2" 207lb centre that great on faceoffs over the 5'11" centre converted to wing.


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Stats are pretty useless in this case. Talbot plays wing with Pittsburgh, sometimes with Malkin, and Lapierre is with the Habs, with 3rd line wingers arguably better than whatever's on the Pens' 1st line right now. There's not just a big enough difference to judge with points. I'll take Talbot with a clean conscience even using the "what you did for me lately" because 2 goals in game 7 of the SCF in a 2-1 victory, it doesn't get any better than this.
Not until Sykora and Satan proved utterly useless on Malkin's RW in the playoffs.

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Maybe you should do your research before saying something like that.

Maxime Lapierre 08/09 15 g 13 a 28pts +9
Maxime Talbot 08/09 10g 12a 22 pts -9

This poll is ridiculous and is based solely on talbot's performance in this years finals.


Lapierre has drastically gotten better at faceoffs and he is a stud at penalty killing. And when is he ever not giving it 110%.
He is 3 inches taller, 20 pounds heavier, 1 year younger. I gotta go with my boy on this one.
Just this year? Missed last year's Finals too, did you?

The bottom line is that Habs fans can only hope that a bottom 6er like Lapierre will come through two years in a row on hockey's biggest stage against the friggin' Red Wings like Talbot already has.

I can't believe that Max's heroics in consecutive years against the league's consensus "model franchise" is actually being held against him. That's exactly when you need your grunts to step up, and Talbot did in spades.

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