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06-27-2009, 11:01 AM
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I think its more of we didn't have a first round pick (or even a second round) in the past 2 drafts, and the one coming up next year we dont have a 1st or 2nd. Not saying to overrate picks, but one should atleast have a 1st or 2nd round pick in 3 drafts, yet we dont.

I am trying to figure out how this conversation came up in Moorison's draft thread.

I also think it is risky to draft the dude just based off of what Steve Mason did (according to what his coach said)
Well, I think they could at least trade Carle for picks/prospects, lost in the negative tide of opinion about him is that he had a 26 point season playing 21-22 minutes per game and did okay in his own end.

And I don't think Morrison was only drafted on the Mason comparison, I think it's just an example that drafting a backup can work out okay.

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06-27-2009, 11:08 AM
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Well, I think they could at least trade Carle for picks/prospects, lost in the negative tide of opinion about him is that he had a 26 point season playing 21-22 minutes per game and did okay in his own end.

And I don't think Morrison was only drafted on the Mason comparison, I think it's just an example that drafting a backup can work out okay.
Oh I agree. I even think that he could have gotten more then 2 points in 12 or so games with us then Tampa. Then he would have near or over Coburn points. That does goes to say though that I think he was alittle iffy on defense. Just my opinion though.

At the moment I think a top 4 of Timonen, Pronger, Coburn, Parent is solid and Carle being traded for picks next year would be beneficial. This would allow us to also get players to fill out our 3rd line.

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Oh I agree. I even think that he could have gotten more then 2 points in 12 or so games with us then Tampa. Then he would have near or over Coburn points. That does goes to say though that I think he was alittle iffy on defense. Just my opinion though.

At the moment I think a top 4 of Timonen, Pronger, Coburn, Parent is solid and Carle being traded for picks next year would be beneficial. This would allow us to also get players to fill out our 3rd line.
Yep, couldn't agree more.

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06-27-2009, 11:12 AM
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Perhaps, but if the Flyers see something in this kid...why wait multiple rounds and risk losing the guy?
Absolutely...which is why the ridiculous praise of the Red Wings late round prowess is much overrated. If they thought those guys were that great, they weren't going to let 100s of picks go by before they grabbed 'em.

If you think the kid is good enough...you get him.

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06-27-2009, 11:23 AM
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Well, I think they could at least trade Carle for picks/prospects, lost in the negative tide of opinion about him is that he had a 26 point season playing 21-22 minutes per game and did okay in his own end.
As much as I'm not Carle's biggest backer, I'd rather keep him (if possible) and move/lose Jones. Should Pronger walk, at least you can insert Carle back in the top 4.

2009/10
Timonen - Coburn
Pronger - Parent
Carle - ??? (cheap 6th guy)

2010/11 - (If Pronger walks)
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - Parent
Bordoun - ???

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As much as I'm not Carle's biggest backer, I'd rather keep him (if possible) and move/lose Jones. Should Pronger walk, at least you can insert Carle back in the top 4.

2009/10
Timonen - Coburn
Pronger - Parent
Carle - ??? (cheap 6th guy)

2010/11 - (If Pronger walks)
Timonen - Coburn
Carle - Parent
Bordoun - ???
Well, if they shed Jones, it might be feasible for this year from a salary perspective.

However, I really do think having a good 3rd line is more important than having Carle on the 3rd pairing.

I mean, what if they trade Carle for picks and then sign Malhotra and Beauchemin with Carle's money (about 1.7 each), I'd do that in a second.

Even just signing Malholtra for 2.1 and then signing another D for 1.3 would be fine with me.

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06-27-2009, 11:27 AM
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Well, if they shed Jones, it might be feasible for this year from a salary perspective.

However, I really do think having a good 3rd line is more important than having Carle on the 3rd pairing.

I mean, what if they trade Carle for picks and then sign Malhotra and Beauchemin with Carle's money (about 1.7 each), I'd do that in a second.

Even just signing Malholtra for 2.1 and then signing another D for 1.3 would be fine with me.
I don't think that is possible

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06-27-2009, 11:58 AM
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I'm going to have to hit up some OilKings games when the Blades are in town to see what Morrison is all about.

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A goalie who got in 13 games. Whoopty Do. I'm so upset with this franchise right now. Can't these idiots in scouting do anything right? There were better players available. Yet they draft some hack who's only managed to get in 13 games.
And basically won them all. Next year is his to start in Saskatoon with Holtby leaving for pro hockey.


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06-27-2009, 12:53 PM
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THANK YOU.

In other news, remember when the Flyers traded Ouellet for Oates? People were freaking out...left, right and center.

Here's what Ouellet has done in his career...

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=35723


Some of you really need to learn how to relax and be a little more objective.
what the heck is the 2.Gbun league he played 2 games in?

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what the heck is the 2.Gbun league he played 2 games in?
German, second tier.

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They chose goalie Adam Morrison (Saskatoon) from the Western Hockey League at No. 81 in the third round. He is from Edmonton, Alberta.

"Our guys liked him," Flyers GM Paul Holmgren said about Morrison. "We sent Neil Little in to watch him a number of times. He didn't play a lot of games. The guy that Washington picked played most of the games.

"This kid will play a lot more games next year for his junior team. We've liked him and done our homework on him."

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06-27-2009, 01:13 PM
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So it's the Neil Little angle. We'll see if this works out I suppose. It seems like they're just hoping that he's under the radar because he didn't play many games, just Steve Mason.

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06-27-2009, 01:19 PM
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I am just surprised since Roy was still on the board.
They passed on Roy, Lee, and Pasquale.

I have no faith in Homer anymore. Ever since the upshall trade, Ive been scratching my head at every move they make.

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So it's the Neil Little angle. We'll see if this works out I suppose. It seems like they're just hoping that he's under the radar because he didn't play many games, just Steve Mason.
Neil Little also said that Backlund is better then Gustavvson. We shall wait and see on that one also.

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06-27-2009, 01:25 PM
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They passed on Roy, Lee, and Pasquale.

I have no faith in Homer anymore. Ever since the upshall trade, Ive been scratching my head at every move they make.
Why don't you wait 5-7 years before you make the appropriate judgment...since neither of the goalies selected today have proven their worth at the NHL level.

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They passed on Roy, Lee, and Pasquale.

I have no faith in Homer anymore. Ever since the upshall trade, Ive been scratching my head at every move they make.
There were alot of question marks with Roy from what I've read, alot of other teams passed on him as well.

The Upshall trade wasnt one he wanted to make, that was out of necessity to clear cap space. No one likes it but it had to be done.

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06-27-2009, 01:50 PM
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Roy is still on the board. Whatever it is people see that the Flyers didn't like, apparently everyone else saw it too and they're not taking him.
I hate this argument.

Many great goaltenders have been skipped by teams several times over.

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06-27-2009, 02:18 PM
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Current NHL starters and when they were drafted:

Devils - Brodeur - 20th
Islanders - DiPietro - 1st
Rangers - Lundqvist - 205th
Flyers - Emery? - 99th
Penguins - Fleury - 1st
Bruins - Thomas - 217th
Sabres - Miller - 138th
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Leafs - Toskala - 90th (Gerber went 232nd)
Thrashers - Lehtonen - 4th
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Panthers - Vokoun - 226th
Lightning - Smith - 161st
Capitals - Varlamov? - 26th
Blackhawks - Khabibulin/Huet - 204th/214th
Blue Jackets - Mason - 69th
Red Wings - Osgood - 54th
Predators - Rinne - 258th
Blues - Mason? - 122nd
Flames - Kiprusoff - 116th
Avs - Budaj? - 63rd
Oilers - Roloson? - Undrafted
Wild - Backstrom - Undrafted
Canucks - Luongo - 4th
Ducks - Hiller? - Undrafted (Giguere went 13th though)
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So it's the Neil Little angle. We'll see if this works out I suppose. It seems like they're just hoping that he's under the radar because he didn't play many games, just Steve Mason.
that's the first thing I thought when I realized how off the board he is, whatever method they were using before for drafting goalies didn't work so they're going a new direction and I'm not surprised they went off the board. Maybe Little is a moron but he doesn't seem to look at things like other scouts (liked Backlund more than Gustavvson, this)

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06-27-2009, 03:07 PM
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I just hope Neil Little's scouting skills are better than his goalie skills were. I'm holding out hope that this kid is going to have a breakout season next year in Saskatoon as the starter. It should be fun to track him in the prospects thread next season.

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06-27-2009, 05:13 PM
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Bad Pick. The last Adam Morrison drafted by a professional team was also a "G" and he was a huge bust. but he did just win a ring

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Bad Pick. The last Adam Morrison drafted by a professional team was also a "G" and he was a huge bust. but he did just win a ring
No, that Adam Morrison is a big, useless "F".

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