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06-27-2009, 12:07 PM
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Well worth the gamble if he keeps developing on the track he has been.

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Pretty damn good numbers. I think this guy is going to be something. Based on the fact he has a girls first name

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06-27-2009, 12:15 PM
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Seems like a nice pic, very respectable numbers.
Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Pct
1741 69 0 1 2.38 18 9 2 0.925
1933 76 0 3 2.36 16 14 3 0.915
1911 52 0 6 1.63 19 9 3 0.947

MIN W L T/OT GA GAA
2808 13 35 1 293 6.26
3585 29 29 1 265 4.44
2463 16 25 1 228 5.55

Wanna guess which numbers belong to Dov Grumet-Morris and which to Patrick Roy?

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06-27-2009, 12:19 PM
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Min GA EN SO GAA W L T Pct
1741 69 0 1 2.38 18 9 2 0.925
1933 76 0 3 2.36 16 14 3 0.915
1911 52 0 6 1.63 19 9 3 0.947

MIN W L T/OT GA GAA
2808 13 35 1 293 6.26
3585 29 29 1 265 4.44
2463 16 25 1 228 5.55

Wanna guess which numbers belong to Dov Grumet-Morris and which to Patrick Roy?
Hope for the best MSE, hope for the best!

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06-27-2009, 12:22 PM
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Hope for the best MSE, hope for the best!
I always do but goalies can't be determined by numbers. There is the level of competition and the maturation process among other factors. The New Jersey Devils, at one point, must have thought Craig Billington was a better choice than Roy and the same with Edmonton and Daryl Reaugh.

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06-27-2009, 12:24 PM
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I always do but goalies can't be determined by numbers. There is the level of competition and the maturation process among other factors. The New Jersey Devils, at one point, must have thought Craig Billington was a better choice than Roy and the same with Edmonton and Daryl Reaugh.
Absolutely, and to some extent...skaters too.

Why I find it funny that some here are ready to put the scouting crew before the firing squad. It's quite simply way too early to tell.

And to look back at things is way too easy, hindsight is 20-20.


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06-27-2009, 12:25 PM
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I always do but goalies can't be determined by numbers. There is the level of competition and the maturation process among other factors. The New Jersey Devils, at one point, must have thought Craig Billington was a better choice than Roy and the same with Edmonton and Daryl Reaugh.
Oh I do agree. I am basing my view on him more on the way he is progressing then his numbers. It seems every year he adjusts and does better. Im hoping that one day this might work for him in the pros.

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06-27-2009, 12:30 PM
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Also, I just found out that he beat former Flyers draft pick Martin Houle's gaa record of 2.32 in the Q. What I am hoping is that him being older is a plus then minus. Maybe he just started blooming, and could turn out great... or he could flop like our other goalies.

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06-27-2009, 02:58 PM
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goalies bloom at totally different times so maybe this kid has turned a corner in his development, I don't mind the stocking up anyway

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06-27-2009, 03:01 PM
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Riopel was a stud last year for Moncton. He, Savard and Gormley really helped turn that team around.

I'm not sure he's a long-term answer in goal, but he's more than worth the fourth rounder to get a shot.

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06-27-2009, 03:20 PM
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My two cents:

Shooters are too good in the NHL to be 5'11''. They hit open corners, and when you're that small your positioning has to be pretty perfect, otherwise you're giving them a decent amount of net to shoot at. Unless you're playing for Detroit (like Osgood, which he won't be) or you're a freaky athlete like Tim Thomas or Marty Turco (which he doesn't look to be), it's just too tough to consistently stop NHLers while giving up that much net.

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06-27-2009, 03:53 PM
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My two cents:

Shooters are too good in the NHL to be 5'11''. They hit open corners, and when you're that small your positioning has to be pretty perfect, otherwise you're giving them a decent amount of net to shoot at. Unless you're playing for Detroit (like Osgood, which he won't be) or you're a freaky athlete like Tim Thomas or Marty Turco (which he doesn't look to be), it's just too tough to consistently stop NHLers while giving up that much net.
I wouldn't call him a freak athlete, but he does play like TT, athletic wise. He makes those dives and such. He seemed to be quick from the videos I saw of him, and from people who watched him play, which would and could make up for his height.

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06-27-2009, 04:08 PM
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I wouldn't call him a freak athlete, but he does play like TT, athletic wise. He makes those dives and such. He seemed to be quick from the videos I saw of him, and from people who watched him play, which would and could make up for his height.
His success shows you are definitely right about that, at least on the Junior level. The NHL is a different ball of wax though. Old, minor mistakes are capitalized on more consistently, new mistakes are exposed. I can't say I have seen enough of him (just what has been posted here) to get into an in depth analysis of his game, but there is a reason that most NHL goalies don't play like that. And it is no coincidence that the one or two guys that do "get away" with it are extremely athletic. I guess time will tell if he can play that way well enough to make it as a professional.

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06-27-2009, 04:28 PM
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Well, if he ever does make it in Philly, he's already got a built-in chant for when he comes up with a big save (inspired by the stupid Ricola commercials):

"Niiiiccooooolllllaaaaaa!"

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Complete with the horn too.

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06-27-2009, 04:42 PM
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His success shows you are definitely right about that, at least on the Junior level. The NHL is a different ball of wax though. Old, minor mistakes are capitalized on more consistently, new mistakes are exposed. I can't say I have seen enough of him (just what has been posted here) to get into an in depth analysis of his game, but there is a reason that most NHL goalies don't play like that. And it is no coincidence that the one or two guys that do "get away" with it are extremely athletic. I guess time will tell if he can play that way well enough to make it as a professional.
Yep I agree, but for some reason I like the kid, and have a good feeling. Inno.

I was looking at the Flyers website and they had him listed at 6.0 170. Im guessing its just for viewing purposes and he really weighs less and is shorter?

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I like the pick, but I'm hoping he's not a product of a good Moncton team.
He was the Moncton team.

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06-27-2009, 06:13 PM
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I like the pick, but I'm hoping he's not a product of a good Moncton team.
That's the thing, Moncton wasn't a good team this year (on paper). It was supposed to be a 'rebuilding year', then Riopel stole the season with his record-setting GAA.

Sadly, another steal Burke failed to pick up due to his weird mancrush on Americans this year...*sigh*

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Riopel was selected by the Flyers in the fifth round (142nd overall) of the 2009 NHL Entry Draft… Born on February 20, 1989 in St. Pie De Bagot, Quebec… 6’0”, 170 pounds… Catches left.

In 2008-09, Riopel posted a 43-15-0 record along with a 2.01 GAA and .931 save percentage in 59 appearances, including five shutouts with the Moncton Wildcats of the QMJHL. He was awarded the Michel Briere Trophy as the Most Valuable Player in the QMJHL and Jacque Plante Trophy for having the best goals-against average (2.01 – new QMJHL record), and was also named to the QMJHL’s First All-Star Team.

Over parts of four seasons in Moncton, Riopel compiled a record of 75-56-0 with a 2.67 GAA, .915 save percentage and seven shutouts in 143 appearances. He has also posted a 6-8 career postseason record with a 2.76 GAA, .914 save percentage and two shutouts in 14 games.

“It’s been three years and I’ve been waiting for this moment, so it was an incredible day for my family and I’m really glad that I came to a great organization like the Flyers,” said Riopel moments after being selected by the Flyers. “I worked hard all of my life. I could have easily left when I didn’t get drafted previously and said my career is over, but I just kept working and I think this year I proved to a lot of people that I can be a winning goalie, and one of the top goalies in the world.”

I like the pick, it kind of reminds me of the Bourdon pick last year... he probably should've gone earlier and could be a steal for a 142nd pick..,

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06-27-2009, 06:41 PM
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Well, if he ever does make it in Philly, he's already got a built-in chant for when he comes up with a big save (inspired by the stupid Ricola commercials):

"Niiiiccooooolllllaaaaaa!"
Looks like they called him RIO in the juniors







That's the stuff I like to see

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RIO was the team last year!!!

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They'll play Duran Duran when he makes great saves too.

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If I were him I don't know if I could get into hearing "Her name is Rio..." every time I stoned somebody.

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He was an overager, I'm not going to hold my breath.

I think they'll probably bring him to the AHL next year though, he's 20 and he has nothing left to accomplish in junior.
I agree. Assuming Biron and Niitty do not play for the Flyers next year, Munroe from the Phantoms will come up and Nicola Riopel will replace him

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I agree. Assuming Biron and Niitty do not play for the Flyers next year, Munroe from the Phantoms will come up and Nicola Riopel will replace him
Do you think it's that cut and dry? Are the not other goalies in the Flyers system that could start for the Phantoms?

I ask this because Rio doesn't have anything really left to accomplish in the QMJHL (aside from the Memorial Cup) but here in Moncton his availability remains a BIG question mark heading into next season.

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