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B. Schenn still on the table??

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06-28-2009, 01:07 AM
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This is just tortorous having my hopes up when these "rumors" happen. I don't believe a word of it now. It needs to stop, so I reckon this will be my last post in a thread regarding B.Schenn going to TOR.

So here I go:

That is a huge deal there I must say. I think TOR would be overpaying but I don't even care at this point.

Having:
L. Schenn
B. Schenn
N. Kadri
C. Teubert

is a respectable start to a core. It ensures another year or 2 of getting pummeled, but it would be a legitimate rebuild at least and thats what I want most.

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06-28-2009, 01:10 AM
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Do you Leaf fans want to really know why Lombardi took Schenn?


Best. Player. Available.

We aren't giving up our prototypical #2 center of the future for a bunch of vets that will be long gone before this kid is even a year or two into his ELC, so dream on.

The Kings will be looking for some veteran help on the LW for this coming season. They won't be trading Schenn to get it.

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06-28-2009, 01:10 AM
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Not at all? I don't think that Burkie is that thick
Perhaps not, I just got that feeling. I believe Murray may have already known Burke was going to select Kadri(before the TSN mic caught it). That's why he said "..flip picks" right before Burke asked him if he was going to select Kadri.

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It would not be so annoying if this attitude/notion was not so often repeated
This had nothing to do with the topic.

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The whole brother thing is overrated, unless you are the Sedins. I mean, other than being used to lure UFA Niedermayer, what did Special (Rob) Nieds ever do with Scott that he couldn't have done on his own?
I didnt say that it was important that they were brothers. I was stressing Burkes want for the guy.

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06-28-2009, 01:11 AM
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It does talk about LA making the 5th pic out of spite for burke and his negotiation tactics. This can be corroborated with the look on burkes face when Schenn was selected, and that was classic by the way.
They didn't pick Schenn out of spite. Its pretty well known amongst the LA fan base that, unless they were overwhelmed with a huge offer, they were gonna pick Schenn. He's a Lombardi type player. Had nothing to do with irritating Burke, though I'm sure the fact that Burke was clearly irritated pleased Dean even more.

I have no doubt Burke tried hard to make a deal with the Kings to move up and get Schenn. That look on his face when LA picked says as much. He was disappointed, and that's the way life goes sometimes.

The bottomline is Schenn belongs to the Kings now. I know alot of Leaf fans are upset they didn't get him, but this is fantasy land stuff. Its over, time to move on.

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This is just tortorous having my hopes up when these "rumors" happen. I don't believe a word of it now. It needs to stop, so I reckon this will be my last post in a thread regarding B.Schenn going to TOR.

So here I go:

That is a huge deal there I must say. I think TOR would be overpaying but I don't even care at this point.

Having:
L. Schenn
B. Schenn
N. Kadri
C. Teubert

is a respectable start to a core. It ensures another year or 2 of getting pummeled, but it would be a legitimate rebuild at least and thats what I want most.
Yeah but that core doesn't even look good, (not taking down the Leafs players, the Kings players aren't exactly world burners either)

Essentially you would have 1 excellent defensive defenseman who can max out at like 30 points, 1 very good defensive defenseman who hits but will probably max out at a similar amount of points, and 2 centers who will likely max out at 70-ish points.

That is the recipe to making a 5-8 team, but not a contending team for sure

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06-28-2009, 01:12 AM
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Do you Leaf fans want to really know why Lombardi took Schenn?


Best. Player. Available.
Definitely. There was no spite or conspiracy here. Schenn is a massive beauty and DL would be declared legally insane if he passed on him.

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I know alot of Leaf fans are upset they didn't get him, but this is fantasy land stuff. Its over, time to move on.
I think Leafs fans are over it, but this god damned blogger keeps making up stuff and people keep falling for it.

If he turns out to be right on this one I'll eat crow, but I'm confident I won't have to.

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06-28-2009, 01:13 AM
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Can we have Doughty instead of Schenn? Not a trade I would make from the Leafs perspective. I actually hope this is nothing but a bs rumour.

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Do you Leaf fans want to really know why Lombardi took Schenn?


Best. Player. Available.
We. Know.

We're not the ones reporting this or wondering why DL chose him. We're simply commenting (and most of us are hoping) on the rumour(s)

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The whole brother thing is overrated, unless you are the Sedins. I mean, other than being used to lure UFA Niedermayer, what did Special (Rob) Nieds ever do with Scott that he couldn't have done on his own?
Bring a cup to Anaheim.

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We. Know.

We're not the ones reporting this or wondering why DL chose him. We're simply commenting (and most of us are hoping) on the rumour(s)
Can never run low on hope, lol

In any case, I have always liked mapleleafshotstove and they do great interviews with league personnel. Congrats to Alex Tran and the bunch.

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Yeah but that core doesn't even look good, (not taking down the Leafs players, the Kings players aren't exactly world burners either)

Essentially you would have 1 excellent defensive defenseman who can max out at like 30 points, 1 very good defensive defenseman who hits but will probably max out at a similar amount of points, and 2 centers who will likely max out at 70-ish points.

That is the recipe to making a 5-8 team, but not a contending team for sure
Yeah, you could be right. Its just a start though. Im assuming there would be some futile years though where more picks would be used, plus free agency. It would at least be a time of real optimism.

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Heh. Having Schenn in the Kings organization means infinitely more to the Kings than mere spite for Burke. Please.

Although the camera showing Burke as he missed out on Schenn was a small enjoyable moment I must say.
Son House, yeeeeah!

Anyway, like you say, this rumour is all kinds of stupid. I'm sure Lombardi's going to make any pick - let alone a top 5 in a position of need for his team - out of spite.

Because the entire world revolves around Brian Burke and the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Uh-huh.

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Yeah but that core doesn't even look good, (not taking down the Leafs players, the Kings players aren't exactly world burners either)

Essentially you would have 1 excellent defensive defenseman who can max out at like 30 points, 1 very good defensive defenseman who hits but will probably max out at a similar amount of points, and 2 centers who will likely max out at 70-ish points.

That is the recipe to making a 5-8 team, but not a contending team for sure
Missing that player that puts them over the top. Like a Zetterberg or a Scott Stevens.

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I think Leafs fans are over it, but this god damned blogger keeps making up stuff and people keep falling for it.

If he turns out to be right on this one I'll eat crow, but I'm confident I won't have to.
Yea sorry, didn't mean to lump all Leaf fans together.

There's a certain segment out there that is so disappointed at not landing Schenn, that they are now coming up with fantasies. Its like trying to hit the rewind button to go back and change what happened at the draft. Kinda like going back to sleep to see if you can find your perfect dream again or whatever.

Its done, Toronto is not getting Schenn. I know most Leaf fans get this, so I apologize if I came off as bashing anyone. Wasn't my intention.

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He's just a little drafted, he's still good, he's still good.
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We. Know.

We're not the ones reporting this or wondering why DL chose him. We're simply commenting (and most of us are hoping) on the rumour(s)
Sorry that you guys didn't get your man. Next year's draft looks to be pretty good as well. If Burke strips it down, which is what it sounds like he wants to do, you will get another very good player in next year's draft.

The look on Burke's face when Lombardi took Schenn was and added bonus though. He is a former Duck after all.

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Yea sorry, didn't mean to lump all Leaf fans together.

There's a certain segment out there that is so disappointed at not landing Schenn, that they are now coming up with fantasies. Its like trying to hit the rewind button to go back and change what happened at the draft. Kinda like going back to sleep to see if you can find your perfect dream again or whatever.

Its done, Toronto is not getting Schenn. I know most Leaf fans get this, so I apologize if I came off as bashing anyone. Wasn't my intention.
We will know soon enough. I'm really hoping they get a good package for Kaberle.

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Missing that player that puts them over the top. Like a Zetterberg or a Scott Stevens.
Nope, got that, Nash is signing here next year, ya'kno!

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It came from a Maple Leaf site, what did you expect?

Give up Toronto, Brayden Schenn will not be a leaf, at least not for a while.

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Nope, got that, Nash is signing here next year, ya'kno!
then we're all set!

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We will know soon enough. I'm really hoping they get a good package for Kaberle.
Ha! Watch this trade actually go down and make me eat my words

Either way, if Toronto decides to move Kaberle, they will get good value. Burke is no fool. Whether or not anyone steps up to the plate to make it worth the Leafs' while remains to be seen. But if he's moved, Kabs will bring pack a nice package.

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Ha! Watch this trade actually go down and make me eat my words

Either way, if Toronto decides to move Kaberle, they will get good value. Burke is no fool. Whether or not anyone steps up to the plate to make it worth the Leafs' while remains to be seen. But if he's moved, Kabs will bring pack a nice package.
I agree. I also think he would fetch a lot at next seasons trade deadline. Either way, it should be fine.

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I agree. I also think he would fetch a lot at next seasons trade deadline. Either way, it should be fine.
I doubt he'd even waive his NTC even if we got a good return.

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Poni would be an upgrade in LA.s top 6, but why would they want two defensemen when they have so many young d that need ice time. Kaberle, I can see, but not White. And trading a #1 draft pick that could be a top five pick is crazy. Seems like wishful thinking of a sort out of Toronto.

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