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06-29-2009, 10:01 PM
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Erik Christensen wasn't qualified either. He only made $750,000 last season so his qualifying offer wouldn't be huge. The Canucks don't really need him but he'd be a decent complementary scoring line player/shootout specialist for a team lacking depth.
Christensen would have been a good Wellwood-esque signing for the team if we were in the position we were in 2008 (or 2007, or 2006) and needed some extra scoring options heading into the season. This is the first year in awhile where signings like that aren't really a good idea, given the development of Grabner and the progression of Burrows and Kesler.

Same thing with Danny Fritsche, another slow-developing skill player who has shown flashes of being a quality 2nd-line player.

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06-29-2009, 10:04 PM
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Still no official word on Canuck qualifying offers?

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06-29-2009, 10:10 PM
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Still no official word on Canuck qualifying offers?
Nothing official from the Canucks and they usually do not post press releases this late in the day.

Maybe keep an eye on the Sun and Province websites later tonight when tomorrow's stories are posted on-line.

OTOH perhaps Gillis just forgot it was on his to-do list??

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06-29-2009, 10:19 PM
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Wild QO's
Forwards Benoit Pouliot, Danny Irmen, Robbie Earl and Kyle Brodziak, G Josh Harding (qualified earlier) and D Clayton Stoner,

Not QO'd so UFA:
Former Vancouver Giant D Paul Albers and forwards Peter Olvecky, Dan Fritsche and Riley Emmerson.
http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_12714551

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06-29-2009, 10:28 PM
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That's flawed logic. The reason Hansen didn't play the same number of games is because he started to play very poorly.
works both ways son. The games he DID play were often on 4th line and sometimes 3rd line minutes

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06-29-2009, 10:29 PM
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Wild QO's
Forwards Benoit Pouliot, Danny Irmen, Robbie Earl and Kyle Brodziak, G Josh Harding (qualified earlier) and D Clayton Stoner,

Not QO'd so UFA:
Former Vancouver Giant D Paul Albers and forwards Peter Olvecky, Dan Fritsche and Riley Emmerson.
http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_12714551
This kid would have thrived in Vancouver. I wish we had been able to throw an offer sheet his way.




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06-29-2009, 10:35 PM
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Hitting up the bargain bin - interesting names without qualifying offers

My theory is that with the financial crisis and threat of a dropping cap that we might see some pretty good names available after failing to be qualified by their respective clubs. Now usually these guys aren't tendered a QO for good reason, but occasionally you hit the mother lode!

I know the focus is on current Canucks such as Henrik and Daniel, Luongo, etc and the Gaboriks, Cammalleris and Bouwmeesters of the hockey world, but there are a few interesting names already...

Steve Eminger... He has bounced around a lot in the past season, but by all accounts, was a fairly highly regarded player in the Caps organization at one time. I remember his draft year quite specifically, and he was regarded as a good two-way guy who above all else had hockey sense. Perhaps the scouting reports were erroneous but would he not be a viable candidate to fill out a depth role? He's not all that old, and certainly might have some upside.

Anthony Stewart... I remember him bulking up to the point where he was a bit too bulky and lost some of his most valuable asset in his speed, but I think he lost it. For whatever reason, he fell out of favor in Florida but he was once considered to be a potential power forward. One would think with his speed and size, he could at least be moulded into some kind of serviceable mucker.

Dan Fritsche... see Stewart. Not quite the same power forward, but certainly will go into the dirty areas. Has bounced around a bit himself in the last year, so that's a bit of a red flag.

I'm sure more names will pop to the forefront, but for now that should get the ball rolling...

I realize that we're pretty deep on the lower lines but could we not look into these guys to provide some depth? They would seem low-risk, high-reward type acquisitions, though I suppose they'd at least want a one-way contract. (But even so, I don't think management and ownership would kick up *too* big of a fuss about paying them big bucks to rot in the minors should they not pan out).

Just a thought.

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06-29-2009, 10:38 PM
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06-29-2009, 11:00 PM
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Anthony Stewart may be worth a look. He is a much needed big body and if he can ever get his confidence backl, he could end up being a steal.

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If we were as bottom 6 empty as last year, then sure, why not? But we're filled now.

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06-29-2009, 11:10 PM
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I would also not be opposed to giving Stewart a shot. Could be a Bernier-type in the right system.

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06-29-2009, 11:18 PM
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Our bottom 6 is too full for Stewert or Fritshe and on D there's better puck moving options (for cheaper) than Eminger, IMO if we aren't going big name.

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06-29-2009, 11:20 PM
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I would also not be opposed to giving Stewart a shot. Could be a Bernier-type in the right system.
That's stretching it.

But like I said in the other thread, you could certainly see him develop into a 10-10-20 player who throws 150-175 hits/year and is a solid big bottom-6 body.

He might be a bust where he was drafted, but he was good enough to stick on Florida's roster for the entire season and certainly would be a good depth body to add to the organization on a two-way deal. Moneyball player at this point, worth a shot.

Interesting Stewart stat - 6 fights in 59 games last year, only 2 minor penalties. Threw a lot of hits as well in limited minutes. So was more physical than his PIM totals would suggest.

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06-29-2009, 11:26 PM
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Ducks QO'd
JamesWisniewski, Brett Festerling, Brian Salcido, Petri Kontiola and Petteri Wirtanen.

No QO's
Erik Christensen (recovering from shoulder surgery), Michael Birner and Chad Painchaud.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/d...4-agent-murray

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06-29-2009, 11:29 PM
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Eminger would make a decent 7th defenseman. I also like Stewart on the 4th line. It's a log jam in our forward core but I think Stewart has the intangibles to be a decent player. Especially in the Gillis factory.

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06-29-2009, 11:32 PM
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Stewart's salary would be peanuts, so I don't see the risk. Gillis might look at him as a waste of time though giving his complex formula for success that no one knows.

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06-29-2009, 11:32 PM
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Habs QO's:
Christopher Higgins, Tomas Plekanec, Gregory Stewart, Kyle Chipchura, Guillaume Latendresse and Matt D'agsotini.

Also Koivu and Tanguay will not receive contract offers from Gainey before their UFA status kicks in on 1 July

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06-29-2009, 11:33 PM
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I wonder if Stewart could top out as a poor man's Byfuglien? He'll never score 20 goals, but perhaps in his prime he can chip in 10-15 and create havoc infront of the other teams net?

Last year we were too nice and didn't really crash the net...this is one area I would like to see addressed.

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06-29-2009, 11:39 PM
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I would definitely take a long look at both Stewart and Eminger.

Eminger played a lot last season... averaged over 21 mins/game, and his stats weren't too bad, including hits, blocked shots, etc. He's still got good size, and is a strong skater as well... a right handed shot, who can play the PP.

I think he could be a good regular on the bottom pairing for this team (next to O'Brien). Need to cut his icetime to #5/6 time minutes and I think he could fill a depth role for this team and still has more upside to improve.

Stewart could be an improvement on our 4th line... but could come in as a 12/13 forward.

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06-29-2009, 11:42 PM
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Woywitka/Eminger in particular are both great candidates for a No.6/7 depth role on the Canucks blueline... hell, any NHL team's blueline for that matter. I would be pleased if the Canucks picked up one of these guys to fill that type of role on this team.

Stewart as a depth 3rd/4th liner doesn't interest me in the slightest, though. I know he was a 1st round pick in 2003, one of the best drafts of all time, but he just hasn't impressed at any level since then. With the Canucks young depth at forward right now, I don't think Stewart would be an improvement over youngsters like Rypien/Grabner/Hansen in our bottom-six. We need to give young guys in our system the chance to develop and have actual NHL minutes instead of wasting it on forwards like Stewart. If he were to be considered as a 12th/13th forward, I would think he'd have to be a bit tougher, but as it stands he's no better than any of the young rookies/sophomores we have right now.

Again, I do like the idea of Woywitka/Eminger in our 6 or 7 d-spots, though.


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I like Woywitka, kinda shocked that the Blues let him go. But I guess with Johnson coming back, and Coliacovo, and Pieterangelo supposed to make the team... he's the odd man out.

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I would definitely consider Eminger if we had no luck in trying to acquire another defenceman with #1-3 capability, even though he's billed as #6/7 d-man. Honestly, if it came to it, I'd throw something at C. Barker from Chicago, in either an effort to actually take him off their hands or drive their cap-hit up so high that they can't afford what we throw at Keith next season.

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Our bottom six is pretty set. Although I would throw a cheap contract to Marcel Goc.

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Gotta wonder if there's something wrong with Eminger that we don't know about. This is the fourth team in a single year that has decided they didn't want him, he wouldn't have been expensive to qualify ($1.2M), and he was a logical candidate for an expanded role in Florida with J-Bo gone. Strange.

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Gotta wonder if there's something wrong with Eminger that we don't know about. This is the fourth team in a single year that has decided they didn't want him, he wouldn't have been expensive to qualify ($1.2M), and he was a logical candidate for an expanded role in Florida with J-Bo gone. Strange.
Someone else was saying in another thread, I think about Eminger, that they wanted him back, but not at that cap hit.

I might be mistaken, but I think they wanted to redo his deal.

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