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06-30-2009, 11:05 PM
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283356

Looks like Heatley is an Oiler.

Hope Dean isn't sleeping on the job. If the goal is, as he states, the playoffs THIS SEASON, he needs to make a big move to get us a chance. Good grief, how many times do we face Heatley now?

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06-30-2009, 11:08 PM
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Looks like Heatley is an Oiler.

Hope Dean isn't sleeping on the job. If the goal is, as he states, the playoffs THIS SEASON, he needs to make a big move to get us a chance. Good grief, how many times do we face Heatley now?
So add Bouwmeester to the Flames and Heatley to the Oilers....but the Kings will be better because their guys have matured one year.

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06-30-2009, 11:08 PM
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Looks like Heatley is an Oiler.

Hope Dean isn't sleeping on the job. If the goal is, as he states, the playoffs THIS SEASON, he needs to make a big move to get us a chance. Good grief, how many times do we face Heatley now?
4?

Dany Heatley, meet Drew Doughty.

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The wheels are turning. According to Hammond, it sounds like Dean is ready to go. Here's hoping...

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So add Bouwmeester to the Flames and Heatley to the Oilers....but the Kings will be better because their guys have matured one year.
Well, the Flames were already way ahead of us. The Oilers were what I saw as pretty on par, but while Heatley is great, let's see how they fill the 2 extra holes they just created. Granted I think the trade makes them better, but they loved the Visnovsky trade too, and then proceeded to whine and complain and suck at all the things they lost in Stoll and Greene.

Still... I am kind of pissed Heatley didn't atleast stay in the east.

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06-30-2009, 11:15 PM
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Looks like Heatley is an Oiler.

Hope Dean isn't sleeping on the job. If the goal is, as he states, the playoffs THIS SEASON, he needs to make a big move to get us a chance. Good grief, how many times do we face Heatley now?
That's certainly an area King fans don't seem to realize-there are only 8 playoff spots avaialable. Detroit, Anaheim, San Jose and Chicago are locks leaving 4 more spots. Then you have Calgary, Columbus and Vancouver but tomorrow is a big day for the Canucks. In order for the Kings to make the playoffs not only do they have to get better from within they need to either start taking pieces away from the teams ahead of them or block teams like Edmonton from acquiring Heatley. Having the most prospects on the planet doesn't mean squat unless you can leapfrog some of the big boys which seems like years from now if ever if Deano stands pat. The Kings need more talent, the talent wants to get paid, the Kings have the money-it's that simple. Either Dean Lombardi wants to win or he doesn't, there are no other excuses.

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So add Bouwmeester to the Flames and Heatley to the Oilers....but the Kings will be better because their guys have matured one year.
I will put it this way.

If Dean doesn't make a big move in free agency because he didn't find the right "character" player, I will flip. This character prerequisite to signing a star has reached the absurdity level. Stars have egos. Match strong personalities with innate talent and a "team" environment in any sport and you're not going to get a circle jerk. Chemistry, I understand, is important and critical to winning but character, by Dean's definition someone that tows the line and doesn't talk back, is total unrealistic ********. Dean, if he was GM of a basketball team, would never trade for Kobe. Shaq and Kobe would never have been together. Take football, basketball, baseball, hockey, they are no different. You are going to get egos that are out of control and, in the end, the team with a combination of talent, luck and chemistry in that order is going to win it.

Dean can either sign talent or he cannot. It's that simple. He fails, the Kings fail and no playoffs for you or me.

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06-30-2009, 11:19 PM
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MH. Martin Havlat? Marian Hossa? He's friends with both right?

Who knows if that's really Gaborik's account or not, but it's sure fun to imagine.
http://twitter.com/Trencin10

If you check the full Twitter feed, he previously tweeted to @martinhavlat (who has a few thousand Blackhawk fans following him), so I would assume MH is Havlat. The feed looks legit, but you can never tell.

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I will put it this way.

If Dean doesn't make a big move in free agency because he didn't find the right "character" player, I will flip. This character prerequisite to signing a star has reached the absurdity level. Stars have egos. Match strong personalities with innate talent and a "team" environment in any sport and you're not going to get a circle jerk. Chemistry, I understand, is important and critical to winning but character, by Dean's definition someone that tows the line and doesn't talk back, is total unrealistic ********. Dean, if he was GM of a basketball team, would never trade for Kobe. Shaq and Kobe would never have been together. Take football, basketball, baseball, hockey, they are no different. You are going to get egos that are out of control and, in the end, the team with a combination of talent, luck and chemistry in that order is going to win it.

Dean can either sign talent or he cannot. It's that simple. He fails, the Kings fail and no playoffs for you or me.
This.

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Dean can either sign talent or he cannot. It's that simple. He fails, the Kings fail and no playoffs for you or me.
I couldn't agree more.

What I do not like though is that if Dean does fail there will be dozens crawling out of the woodwork praising him for the chutzpah to resist signing an overpriced guy....even if that means another top 5 draft pick.

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http://twitter.com/Trencin10

If you check the full Twitter feed, he previously tweeted to @martinhavlat (who has a few thousand Blackhawk fans following him), so I would assume MH is Havlat. The feed looks legit, but you can never tell.
I am going to ****ing die from angst... This team is going to be the end of me. I am actually like heart shaking nervous about tomorrow... Please be Gaborik! Then acquire Phaneuf to appease Zad! Do it Deano!

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I will put it this way.

If Dean doesn't make a big move in free agency because he didn't find the right "character" player, I will flip. This character prerequisite to signing a star has reached the absurdity level. Stars have egos. Match strong personalities with innate talent and a "team" environment in any sport and you're not going to get a circle jerk. Chemistry, I understand, is important and critical to winning but character, by Dean's definition someone that tows the line and doesn't talk back, is total unrealistic ********. Dean, if he was GM of a basketball team, would never trade for Kobe. Shaq and Kobe would never have been together. Take football, basketball, baseball, hockey, they are no different. You are going to get egos that are out of control and, in the end, the team with a combination of talent, luck and chemistry in that order is going to win it.

Dean can either sign talent or he cannot. It's that simple. He fails, the Kings fail and no playoffs for you or me.
Well put.

I will say though that I think people mock the "Kopi needs to get better" stuff a little too much. I agree that to secure a realistic shot at the playoffs, we need to add a star. However at the same time, even if the Kings add a star, if Kopi and Brown don't step it up, we still are not going to be a very good team. Let's not pretend like one star players = playoffs. One needn't look further than the Thrashers for that one. Hell, with Kovie and Heatley or Kovie and Hossa, still mass suckage abound.

So while we do need to sign a star, and worrying about Kopitar not improving is NO EXCUSE for not adding a much needed forward, that does not discredit the point that without Kopitar advancing to the next stage of his development, we aren't going to be that much closer to a playoff spot, and still hellishly far away from contention.

Obviously there are needs that need to be addressed. I do believe that no matter whether we add Hossa or Gaborik or Havlat or Phaneuf, barring a major overhaul of the team (which I don't think anyone is expecting or hoping for), Kopitar and his development is absolutely the single most critical thing to our future success.

We knew he was our future when he first burned Pronger. That hasn't changed.

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I am going to ****ing die from angst... This team is going to be the end of me. Please be Gaborik! Then acquire Phaneuf to appease Zad! Do it Deano!
This is a low point in my life, I just read my first tweet thanks to Telos.

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I couldn't agree more.

What I do not like though is that if Dean does fail there will be dozens crawling out of the woodwork praising him for the chutzpah to resist signing an overpriced guy....even if that means another top 5 draft pick.
did i hear my name?

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This is a low point in my life, I just read my first tweet thanks to Telos.
That's how I felt.

I feel dirty.

Dirtier than usual.

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If any of that twittering is true, I can see many agents cancelling their players twitter accounts. I thought you couldn't negotiate until July 1st?

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If any of that twittering is true, I can see many agents cancelling their players twitter accounts. I thought you couldn't negotiate until July 1st?
you can't make an offer...

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If you fit the criteria.....then yes you can be one of those crawling from the woodwork.

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If any of that twittering is true, I can see many agents cancelling their players twitter accounts. I thought you couldn't negotiate until July 1st?
Either that or he is dead set on getting a deal done with LA for whatever reason (which I care little, give him women, beaches, anything...), but of course, we could be talking about some 13 year old in his basement snickering over his new Gaborik screenname...

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I feel dirty.

Dirtier than usual.
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you can't make an offer...
Technically Sydor25 is correct....but there are probably negotiations going on in secret....if those involved are caught however, they could face still penalties.

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