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Tampa Bay signs Ohlund 7 years, $3.5/year

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07-01-2009, 12:30 PM
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In this case, I don't think Vancouver would mind. WE knew he was gone 3 months ago.
Its more the other 28 teams are put at a disadvantage if they were talking before.

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Lol, 7 years. Great mentor for Hedman though.

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Instead last year they signed 42 forwards... seems like they got smarter this time around and are now focusing on d-man.

good for them, it might get them respect eventually.
Good GOD! 7 years for a declining Mattias Ohlund??

There goes the respect to Tampa.

FAIL.

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07-01-2009, 12:32 PM
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tampering?, 15 min into FA, and they have that amount of money at that term hmmm.

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Too much and too long.

I like ohlund, I would have liked to have him back.

But he is not worth 3.75 now and will keep getting worse.

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It's quite possible that Öhlund still a reasonably effective defender at 39. Its also possible that monetary inflation and subsequent raised salary caps will make that pay check look better further down the road. They get a top 4 guy for a long time and a mentor for Hedman. Very good signing.

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Are you people simple here? It is a seven year contract to LOWER the cap hit, they will frontload the contract so Ohlund gets the money he was asking, and when he retires with 2 or 3 years left on his contract, the cap hit will be no longer Everybody wins.

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Ohlund will get 22.5 of the 24.5 in the next 5 years.
Hmm.

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07-01-2009, 12:34 PM
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I think he said himself that he wanted a 3-4 year deal to end his career, so probably just a smart cap hit deal.
The problem, though, is that he's probably not worth the front-loaded amount, at this point. Now if the owner's don't mind giving a player who's declined significantly more money than he deserves, as long as it doesn't create cap hell, well than Tampa fans are lucky. Fans should only be mad about their teams overpaying when it affects a budget(self imposed) or the upper cap limit(too high a cap hit). Other than that, it's the owner's money, and if they are willing to over pay a guy, short-term, to get him there, at a low cap-hit, than that's their business and their fans should feel lucky.

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The only thing that really matters here is the cap hit. How much money he makes annually isn't nearly as much so. Ohlund gets his money...the team lightens up the cap hit...and the cap hit, salary, and Ohlund himself go away when he retires...which will assuredly be prior to 7 years.

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tampering?
"Hey Mike, you guys gonna sign Ohlund?" "Nope." "Can we talk to him?" "Sure." "Thanks."

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For those of you saying it's bad term, get a clue.

He's likely playing 4 more years, maybe 5. The deal is designed to pay him, as well as keep the hit down.

It also confirms that the reports that TB's payroll woes and only spending to the floor were crap. No way we could sign Ohlund to a deal and end up paying only 40 million. Realistically, look for Tampa near 49 mil in payroll. (right near the revenue sharing point)

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Doesn't Tampa Bay still have to pay him after he retires anyway? If so, what's the point of frontloading when he's going to be owed the whole 24.5 million or whatever it is.

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...and the cap hit, salary, and Ohlund himself go away when he retires...which will assuredly be prior to 7 years.
Ding-ding-ding we have a winner.

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Hedman will now learn how to swing at the knees! Woot!

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Doesn't Tampa Bay still have to pay him after he retires anyway? If so, what's the point of frontloading when he's going to be owed the whole 24.5 million or whatever it is.
I believe that's only applicable if the player is 35 years or older when he signs the new contract, so it wouldn't be a factor here.

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Also, Ohlund's play is a certain value, but remember, he's probably also getitng paid to really mentor this team's defensive young guys. He's got more value than just his defensive play.

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Wow I mean, Ohlund will be a great fit there..

But 7 years? That is borderline obsurd.

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The lesson of this thread: few people understand cap management and some people haven't been paying attention to league-wide trends toward front-loaded contracts.

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People who are complaing about the term are probably teenagers and doesn't know the finer details about the cap world.

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How will he keep getting worse? This guy has been the model of consistency. He might not be spectacular...but you know what you're getting with the guy. Here...take a look:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8460503

Does anyone, by looking at the numbers, see a significant change anywhere? He's always been between 20 and 30 points...about an even +/- player...

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The problem, though, is that he's probably not worth the front-loaded amount, at this point. Now if the owner's don't mind giving a player who's declined significantly more money than he deserves, as long as it doesn't create cap hell, well than Tampa fans are lucky. Fans should only be mad about their teams overpaying when it affects a budget(self imposed) or the upper cap limit(too high a cap hit). Other than that, it's the owner's money, and if they are willing to over pay a guy, short-term, to get him there, at a low cap-hit, than that's their business and their fans should feel lucky.
I really don't know much about Tampas budget besides the cap, but it would be plain stupid if they couldn't cover it. He won't be the first player to get a massive overpayment due to a frondloaded deal(if it's the case) and probably not the last. It's just business.

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Ohlund will get 22.5 of the 24.5 in the next 5 years.
Hmm.
5 years @ $4.5M per doesn't make it look any better. Cripes.

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The lesson of this thread: few people understand cap management and some people haven't been paying attention to league-wide trends toward front-loaded contracts.
Yep. Irritating. Considering I have no rooting interest in this signing, I'm getting the hell out of this thread.

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