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07-01-2009, 04:21 PM
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I think they brought him in as a third liner. Although I don't think he should be.

However, I think he can put up 30 points on a third line. He has a lot more to show then he has.
He will shift back and forth, which is a bit much cash for your 4th line.

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I assume you mean Carcillo???

I agree with you.... I think he has the potential to be a 15 goal 30 point guy, which is what I want to see from my third liners.
I don't know if that will be fair offensive production from him. I'd keep it closer to 20 points.

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Considering the injury trainwreck that Colorado has been the last couple years, I wouldn't buy too much into his stats.

He's a good 3rd liner who's very solid defensively, I'd prefer if he were a C, but it's still a solid signing for my money, my only (slight) concern is the length.
I have no problem with the signing, I just want to see more moves made....Although, I think the injury trainwreck would have played more into his favor as far as stats go rather than the opposite cause he would have been given more ice time and opportunity.

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He ended up back in Calgary



Carcillo is relegated to 4th line with this.
He is similar to Tootoo but I think he has more skill then Laperriere. He (Carcillo) needs to pick his spots.

anywya, we overpaid Boucher by 150K and gave an extra year to Laperriere. I want 3rd line center. I do not want to see Giroux playing 3rd lince center. He shoudl get Parise type of development. No pressure on Parise.

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I don't know if that will be fair offensive production from him. I'd keep it closer to 20 points.
He scored 13 goals two seasons ago, and I don't thinks it unreasonable to think he can do it again

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I don't know if that will be fair offensive production from him. I'd keep it closer to 20 points.
He had 13 goals and 24 points in 57 games with Phoenix while putting up 327 penalty minutes.

15 goals and 30 points is not too much to ask from him, especially if he can reduce those penalty minutes by 100

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He had 13 goals and 24 points in 57 games with Phoenix while putting up 327 penalty minutes.

15 goals and 30 points is not too much to ask from him, especially if he can reduce those penalty minutes by 100
Shouldn't be that hard to take 10 less misconducts for not shutting up.

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This team is shaping up to be a real tough one....

Pronger, Hartnell, Richards, Asham, Carcillo, LaPerriere, (Cote), and to a lesser extent Alberts and Coburn.

Maybe we'll see a new epidemic of the Philly Flu?

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He had 13 goals and 24 points in 57 games with Phoenix while putting up 327 penalty minutes.

15 goals and 30 points is not too much to ask from him, especially if he can reduce those penalty minutes by 100
I don't think that's far off.

As mentioned, he can be a real hot head...but he can play the game too.

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This team is shaping up to be a real tough one....

Pronger, Hartnell, Richards, Asham, Carcillo, LaPerriere, (Cote), and to a lesser extent Alberts and Coburn.

Maybe we'll see a new epidemic of the Philly Flu?
It is all a master plan by Homer to lead the league in penalty minutes, thus giving Cannon and Gagne more time shorthanded to score some goals

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I have no problem with the signing, I just want to see more moves made....Although, I think the injury trainwreck would have played more into his favor as far as stats go rather than the opposite cause he would have been given more ice time and opportunity.
Nah he still played 3rd line minutes, I think he probably played them with pretty crappy players though.

I'm very disappointed that Carle hasn't been traded yet tbh, the flexibility that could give us would be awesome.

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This team is shaping up to be a real tough one....

Pronger, Hartnell, Richards, Asham, Carcillo, LaPerriere, (Cote), and to a lesser extent Alberts and Coburn.

Maybe we'll see a new epidemic of the Philly Flu?
As long as they pick their spots and dont do stupid ****, philly sahould be a tough team to play against

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It is all a master plan by Homer to lead the league in penalty minutes, thus giving Cannon and Gagne more time shorthanded to score some goals
If I could, I would bet on vBookie right now that the Flyers will be #1 in PIM in 09-10! However, I'd gladly lose that bet for some consistent 5on5 play.


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He had 13 goals and 24 points in 57 games with Phoenix while putting up 327 penalty minutes.

15 goals and 30 points is not too much to ask from him, especially if he can reduce those penalty minutes by 100
6 of those game in the last 2 games of the 2007 season. The offensive numbers for Carcillo are clearly bloated.

Ian Laperriere had 21 goals 3 years ago, are we expecting that from him?

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If I could, I would bet on vBookie right now that the Flyers will be #1 in PIM in 09-10!!!
It would only pay .05 on the dollar...I think they will be a shoe in.

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6 of those game in the last 2 games of the 2007 season. The offensive numbers for Carcillo are clearly bloated.

Ian Laperriere had 21 goals 3 years ago, are we expecting that from him?
2 years ago for a young improving player is much different then 3 years ago for an aging player

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He had 13 goals and 24 points in 57 games with Phoenix while putting up 327 penalty minutes.

15 goals and 30 points is not too much to ask from him, especially if he can reduce those penalty minutes by 100


and at least 5 of those goals were of the highlight reel variety. Agree 100 % Mike. I'm going to say 13-18 for Carcillo this year. I'm just hoping it's with us.

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6 of those game in the last 2 games of the 2007 season. The offensive numbers for Carcillo are clearly bloated.

Ian Laperriere had 21 goals 3 years ago, are we expecting that from him?
Lappy is 35 years old, Carcillo is 24. Not a fair comparison.

Players typically end up where they are supposed to be at the end of the season, regardless of when they scored goals. Look at Hartnell two years ago, didnt do squat the entire first half of the season and still ended up around where he was always at.

Did you expect the same from him last year??

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6 of those game in the last 2 games of the 2007 season. The offensive numbers for Carcillo are clearly bloated.

Ian Laperriere had 21 goals 3 years ago, are we expecting that from him?


What the hell does that have to do with anything? It's still the regular season and those goals he scored were goal-scorers goals.

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2 years ago for a young improving player is much different then 3 years ago for an aging player
Exactly. And the year before that he had 4 goals and 7 points in 18 games which works out to be 18 goals and 31 points.

Last year was his 2nd full season in the NHL, typical for players to take a step back with the dreaded sophomore jinx.

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Exactly. And the year before that he had 4 goals and 7 points in 18 games which works out to be 18 goals and 31 points.

Last year was his 2nd full season in the NHL, typical for players to take a step back with the dreaded sophomore jinx.
Biron played russian roulette and ate the bullet.

He'll sign as a backup in Columbus or Buffalo, as a backup.

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So very very false.

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Yeah were insane....

i think this should have been the upshall deal.
Just wait until we see what Upshall signs for. It will be nowhere near 1.17/yr.

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He might have been 4-5 years ago, but not anymore.
Laperriere has played just under 14 minutes a game for the last 3 seasons and over 17 minutes a game the season before that. To compare Asham played just under 9 minutes a game, Carcillo played 10 mins a game for philly and 12 on the third line for Phoenix.

Laperriere to me seems like he was brought in to play at least some time on the third line.

4th liners dont play anywhere near 14 mins a game.

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Biron played russian roulette and ate the bullet.

He'll sign as a backup in Columbus or Buffalo, as a backup.
Yeah I'm with you there. His agent and him really F'd the dog this offseason....

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So very very false.



Just wait until we see what Upshall signs for. It will be nowhere near 1.17/yr.



Laperriere has played just under 14 minutes a game for the last 3 seasons and over 17 minutes a game the season before that. To compare Asham played just under 9 minutes a game, Carcillo played 10 mins a game for philly and 12 on the third line for Phoenix.

Laperriere to me seems like he was brought in to play at least some time on the third line.

4th liners dont play anywhere near 14 mins a game.
Is that even strength time, or total ice time??? A lot of that could have been PK time....

He is 35 years old, and a guy who has palyed his ass off night in and night out for years.....regardless of what he did the past couple years his numbers are going on the downside, not up If this signing was 2-3 years ago I would have said definite 3rd liner....Now, I rather see Carcillo on the third line and Lappy with Asham on the 4th.

It also depends on how they structure their lines. If the 3rd line is more of a defensive line, he isnt putting up much more than that, if it includes one of Carter/Richards/Grioux....maybe.

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Possible line?

Carcillo - Richards - Laperriere


Solid defensive line, and they would surprise some with the offense they would provide. Biggest issue with this line would be size, Lapperiere being the biggest man at 6'-1".

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