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Offseason Moves Discussion Thread V

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Thread I, Thread II, Thread III & Thread IV.

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Skrasnis just signed for 1.375 a year. Would have been a top 4 if we brought him over. How the hell do these guys keep getting overlooked?

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Well, I think there's 5 established NHL guys that aren't going anywhere unless it's for an elite player:

Ovechkin, Backstrom, Green, Semin, Laich

Beyond that, these prospects are likely in the same boat:

Alzner, Varlamov, Carlson, Neuvirth

I'd imagine anyone else is available for the right price.

If GMGM were to go after a Volchenkov, Tallinder, Lydman, or Hamhuis, each have under a $3 million cap hit, so the moving out of salary wouldn't be that big of a deal, especially if Mo goes the other way.
I wasn't challenging you or anything. I literally meant that you should just say "I am presuming X, Y, and Z are available so what's the best deals we can maybe swing?"

Right now, it's all blind guesswork because we have no hints of any sort from GMGM about who we might be offering up, and affirmative statements suggesting that we're "fine" in goal and defensively as is.

Other than Nylander (duh), we can only speculate at who might be identified as a target we would be especially willing to part with, and who isn't.

There are numerous players at every salary strata that I think would improve our team in realistic trades. I just haven't the slightest clue where to begin at this point.

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seriously I haven't.

I have so much to review but I'm taking it home over the weekend. When the wife wants me to do something... sorry. I'm reviewing specs!

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Building on my last few posts from the previous thread, here's a list of some guys that are UFAs after next season and could be potential trade targets:

Centers
Marleau
Jokinen
Savard
Vermette
Lombardi
Peverley

Defensemen
Kubina
Blake
Clark
Mitchell
Salei
Tallinder
Lydman
Hamhuis
Klesla
Michalek
Robidas

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Skrasnis just signed for 1.375 a year. Would have been a top 4 if we brought him over. How the hell do these guys keep getting overlooked?
yep, for that value i would have snatched him in a heart beat.


ahhh well.

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yep, for that value i would have snatched him in a heart beat.


ahhh well.
Is there a single person on the planet who wouldn't have gladly exchanged Mo and Juice for Skrasnis and Zanon? To do so would have apparently been only $400k more expensive than the current QO's for Mo and Juice. And after arbitration, who knows.

Ugg.

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Building on my last few posts from the previous thread, here's a list of some guys that are UFAs after next season and could be potential trade targets:

Centers
Marleau
Jokinen
Savard
Vermette
Lombardi
Peverley

Defensemen
Kubina
Blake
Clark
Mitchell
Salei
Tallinder
Lydman
Hamhuis
Klesla
Michalek
Robidas
can't we pretend he doesn't exist?

and add Exelby to the list

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I wasn't challenging you or anything. I literally meant that you should just say "I am presuming X, Y, and Z are available so what's the best deals we can maybe swing?"

Right now, it's all blind guesswork because we have no hints of any sort from GMGM about who we might be offering up, and affirmative statements suggesting that we're "fine" in goal and defensively as is.

Other than Nylander (duh), we can only speculate at who might be identified as a target we would be especially willing to part with, and who isn't.

There are numerous players at every salary strata that I think would improve our team in realistic trades. I just haven't the slightest clue where to begin at this point.
I wasn't taking it like that at all.

And I agree, it's guesswork, but I think we can make assumptions that there's not a limited inventory of players deemed avaialble to management, considering GMGM has repeated his desire to make some trades.

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Is there a single person on the planet who wouldn't have gladly exchanged Mo and Juice for Skrasnis and Zanon? To do so would have apparently been only $400k more expensive than the current QO's for Mo and Juice. And after arbitration, who knows.

Ugg.
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can't we pretend he doesn't exist?

and add Exelby to the list
I'm not a huge fan of Exelby's. Don't think he offers much more than Jurcina.

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I'm not a huge fan of Exelby's. Don't think he offers much more than Jurcina.
The TSN panel was just gushing about him yesterday. Not sure if that was spin directed at making the trade look better in the eyes of Maple Leafs fans watching the broadcast or what...but Feaster and McGuire wanted to have his baby.

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Knuble also had interest from Dean Lombardi in LA, and that was a direct quote from an interview that Lombardi conducted yesterday. Knuble to the Caps was a real coup.
I love that Lombardi has such a great dialogue with the press and his fanbase. It's a great interview.

Read it here

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The TSN panel was just gushing about him yesterday. Not sure if that was spin directed at making the trade look better in the eyes of Maple Leafs fans watching the broadcast or what...but Feaster and McGuire wanted to have his baby.
Maybe 3-4 years ago when he looked like a better version of Brooks Orpik, but he's been flat-out bad the last few years.

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Here a big Vogel write up on the Knuble signing...(not sure if it was already posted)

http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app?art...e&service=page

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Exelby is horrible. I really think he's one of the very worst defensemen in the entire Eastern Conference. In the old NHL, he probably would have been pretty good. Now, I'm actually upset that he was traded out of the southeast.

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Ovie - Backstrom - Knuble
Semin - NYLANDER - Kovy
Flash - Steckel - Clark
Bourque - Gordon - Fehr/Bradley

Green - Mo
Poti - Pothier
Erskine - Jurcina
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TSN gushing over Garnett effing Exelby?!? he of the famed 16 minutes a night / borderline #4-5 ?!? thats spin for the sake of Toronto & and their fans, nothing more.


the more i think about it, i get annoyed with our logjam of bottom pair D-men and GMGM hording them as tho they were made of gold. package them up, shine em' up real nice and trade them for something we NEED.

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Has Beauchemin signed yet?

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TSN gushing over Garnett effing Exelby?!? he of the famed 16 minutes a night / borderline #4-5 ?!? thats spin for the sake of Toronto & and their fans, nothing more.


the more i think about it, i get annoyed with our logjam of bottom pair D-men and GMGM hording them as tho they were made of gold. package them up, shine em' up real nice and trade them for something we NEED.
Laich>>Nylander.

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Has Beauchemin signed yet?
Still out there. And likely to make a good deal less than Komisarek's $4.5.

We could fit him here pretty easily I think. Pretty easily = goodbye Morrisonn + Jurcina.

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Trade Mo + 1st for Hamhuis and work on his extension as soon as you're done with Backstrom's.

Hamhuis-Green
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Still out there. And likely to make a good deal less than Komisarek's $4.5.
I think Beauchemin will do very well for himself. He played a ton of minutes in Anaheim. He was playing 25+ minutes on a regular basis.

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I think Beauchemin will do very well for himself. He played a ton of minutes in Anaheim. He was playing 25+ minutes on a regular basis.
I just don't want Pittsburgh or another eastern conference team to land him...unless it's the Caps...which it won't be.

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