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07-06-2009, 04:01 PM
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Raycrap for 500,000 and SOB for 1.6. Kind of balances out a bit?

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Again, most of which were not his fault but the result of refs itchy whistles.
There were a few phantom calls because of his reputation but a lot of them were dumb and obvious.

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Best thing about this signing is the term.
GM's are saying there will be some huge cap issues in 2010-11...glad we have SOB for just the one year, because the following season we will not be able to afford a $1.6 million salary on our third pairing, guaranteed.
Hopefully one of our kids (Sauve, Ellington, McIver, Rahimi, Connauton) makes a huge step up, by then.

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07-06-2009, 04:05 PM
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SOB is far from a goon. He's a pretty good defensive defenseman and he also quite often amazes me how calm he is at getting out of trouble. His toughness is also invaluable back there. He also sticks up for his teammates.

Honestly I think he's a very good option and especially in the 2nd half of the season he toned down his penalties. It was his first season in a Nucks uniform and he may have been confused at times as to what his role was, I think he'll get better next year.

Glad to see he's coming back, and 1.6 is reasonable.

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07-06-2009, 04:08 PM
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Good ol' Irish kid.

Great signing.

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07-06-2009, 04:10 PM
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Yet you missed SOB being a pretty damned good d-man.
At times, he plays very well. He takes too many penalties, some are unwarranted, maybe he has an attitude problem with the refs? But does he play better than say Weaver? I don't think so. And I watched Weaver in 07/08 and against us in the 1st round, doesn't make too many mistakes. But Obrien gets more involved offensively and brings the toughness element and sure that might be worth $1.6M. The problem I have with O'brien is his attitude. When his ice-time gets cut, he sulks on the bench (I've observed that every time his ice time is cut), usually with Hordichuk. He complains publicly about his ice-time. He got involved with the Mason Raymond incident in practice. He's a trouble-maker. If on the other hand he had a great attitude, he would be worth every penny. But he doesn't. I hate to use that card but why was he traded from Anaheim when supposedly that's the kind of player Burke likes? and from Tampa? Based on the Fred Shero rule, he would have been traded already (each team has 7 leaders, 7 followers, and 7 bad atttitudes. Room the 7 leaders with the 7 followers and trade the bad attitudes).

Now that he's signed, its up to him to make the most of it and fix his attitude as it does him or the team no good.

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07-06-2009, 04:15 PM
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Mike Weaver?

If you cant see the differences between Mike Weaver and O'Brien then I think you just made it clear to everyone why there isn't a point in arguing with you.

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Can I make a pretty simple request? Can we rise just a tiny little bit above the level of calling Raycroft "Raycrap"? It's just so ridiculously childish and brings down the level of the whole discussion. I mean if you're going to mock a guy, at least make a tiny effort to be clever, rather than just tacking an expletive to the end of his name. Have some pride. Jo-sieve, that's not half bad. Raycrap? Go back to grade 3.

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Can I make a pretty simple request? Can we rise just a tiny little bit above the level of calling Raycroft "Raycrap"? It's just so ridiculously childish and brings down the level of the whole discussion. I mean if you're going to mock a guy, at least make a tiny effort to be clever, rather than just tacking an expletive to the end of his name. Have some pride. Jo-sieve, that's not half bad. Raycrap? Go back to grade 3.
Psst. This is a SOB thread.

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07-06-2009, 04:34 PM
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At times, he plays very well. He takes too many penalties, some are unwarranted, maybe he has an attitude problem with the refs? But does he play better than say Weaver? I don't think so. And I watched Weaver in 07/08 and against us in the 1st round, doesn't make too many mistakes. But Obrien gets more involved offensively and brings the toughness element and sure that might be worth $1.6M. The problem I have with O'brien is his attitude. When his ice-time gets cut, he sulks on the bench (I've observed that every time his ice time is cut), usually with Hordichuk. He complains publicly about his ice-time. He got involved with the Mason Raymond incident in practice. He's a trouble-maker. If on the other hand he had a great attitude, he would be worth every penny. But he doesn't. I hate to use that card but why was he traded from Anaheim when supposedly that's the kind of player Burke likes? and from Tampa? Based on the Fred Shero rule, he would have been traded already (each team has 7 leaders, 7 followers, and 7 bad atttitudes. Room the 7 leaders with the 7 followers and trade the bad attitudes).

Now that he's signed, its up to him to make the most of it and fix his attitude as it does him or the team no good.

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07-06-2009, 04:38 PM
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great to know SOB will be back. will be solid on our d.

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Solid signing, again...no issues.

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07-06-2009, 05:35 PM
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Don't think so. IIRC, you have to be 27 by July 1st to qualify for UFA status, and O'Brien doesn't turn 27 until August 9th, 2010.

It's a bit more than I would have thought he'd get but it's a reasonable price considering the circumstances.
Of if the player had 7 seasons of NHL under his or her belt.

I think what the poster was more referring to was the RFA arbitrations. In which case after the arbitration deal the player would reach UFA status, but O'Brien didn't go to Arby he just straight up signed.

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07-06-2009, 05:40 PM
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Good to see him back.

He was vastly improved in the back half of the season after he stopped taking so many god damn penalties.

Now we are just missing a #6 D-man (Already have a 7 and 8 in Nycho and Rome) and 1-2 forwards yeah?

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07-06-2009, 06:42 PM
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Good signing I can't believe people are complaining about this but people are willing to pay 5goalssincedecemberwood 1.5.

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07-06-2009, 07:43 PM
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I don't like Obrien and I don't like the numbers.

never liked the guy and 1.6 is simply too much for a D man who gets 10 assists and no goals per year. Yeah I know that's not his job, but he takes dumb penalties and handles the puck like a hand grenade at times.

Thankfully it's a one year term. The silver lining.

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07-06-2009, 07:55 PM
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You need a tough presence who isn't afraid to fight on the back end. The fact is, SOB is our best hitter on the team...you definitely need someone who makes players think twice about forechecking.

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Watched almost every game.
That doesn't really provide any info. Watching a game and watching a player are two very big things. Watching games on TV and watching live are VERY different.

This signing is fine.

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Of if the player had 7 seasons of NHL under his or her belt.
I think we all know this doesn't apply to the situation.

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07-06-2009, 09:05 PM
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IMHO, SOB is still earning his spot here, good signing and for the right term.

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I like it!!

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That doesn't really provide any info. Watching a game and watching a player are two very big things. Watching games on TV and watching live are VERY different.

This signing is fine.
since you brought it up, game tape replay is the best.

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I wonder if he can make the step to 2nd pairing defenseman.

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