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Campbell & 1st Rounder - Any takers?

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07-07-2009, 03:31 PM
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Campbell & 1st Rounder - Any takers?

Ive seen this mentioned in the body of threads. Curious if any team would be willing to take on Campbell and his bad contract if the Hawks gave away their 1st round pick next year and asked for nothing in return.

Id even be tempted to throw in a Brouwer, Skille or similar lower tier player/prospect. Or Versteeg but Id lower the pick to a second rounder if it were Versteeg.

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07-07-2009, 03:33 PM
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Isn't next year's draft slated to be one of the weakest in recent memory?

In which case, that late first round pick might not even be that appetizing

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The Hawks pick will be a low first round pick and next yrs draft is not looking good. I would say no thanks.

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Isn't next year's draft slated to be one of the weakest in recent memory?

In which case, that late first round pick might not even be that appetizing
Then make the pick for what ever year you chose.

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Isn't next year's draft slated to be one of the weakest in recent memory?

In which case, that late first round pick might not even be that appetizing
I think that is 2011

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Isn't next year's draft slated to be one of the weakest in recent memory?

In which case, that late first round pick might not even be that appetizing
I thought the 2010 draft was considered below the 2009 draft,but above the 2011 draft.

I've read scouts are really unimpressed with the 2011 draft.

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A low round 1 pick and an insanely huge contract? The 1st rounder won't contribute for atleast 2-3 years if ever and you'd be stuck paying him all that money AND have him tie up precious space against the cap? Just buy out his contract and keep the 1st rounder.

No way in hell.

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You guys just signed him last year? this makes no sense... its not like he had a horrible year... you gave him what it took to get him to Chicago and now you must deal with it

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Isn't next year's draft slated to be one of the weakest in recent memory?

In which case, that late first round pick might not even be that appetizing
No, that's the 2011 draft.

And, I can't see why any team would trade for Campbell and his $7.1 cap hit. At this moment, he is untradeable.

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No, that's the 2011 draft.
Really? THN had a whole article on how next years draft is gonna suck hard in the draft preview issue.

As for the trade. No. Chicago's gonna finish high and that contract is just an anchor on a team, especially with a declining cap in a couple years.

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2010 looks pretty good, way better than 2011 which has been compared to 1999.

I dont know how many teams could take on over $10 million in salary with a Campbell-Versteeg trade, not to mention Campbell's contract doesnt run out until after the 2015-2016 season.

At which point you would have a 37 year old defensman making 7.140 million a year.....no thanks, that is Lidstrom/Chara money for a 3rd defensman.

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What you can get back is a big contract with smaller cap hit.

For example, Redden + prospect or mid pick for Campbell + 1st. So net net, you save about $2m per year.

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Really? THN had a whole article on how next years draft is gonna suck hard in the draft preview issue.

As for the trade. No. Chicago's gonna finish high and that contract is just an anchor on a team, especially with a declining cap in a couple years.
read you issue again, its talking about 2011.

2010 has guys like Kabanov, Hall, Fowler, Pulkinen, Granlund, Tarasenko, Pysk, Gormley, Gudbranson, McFarland, Hishon, Toffoli, Connoly etc.....

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you should just do what that EBAY guy did (trading up from a penny to a boat or something) except in reverse. Trade Campbell straight up for someone with a slightly less terrible contract, and then work from there.

holy **** I just had a revelation!

Trade Campbell to the Islanders for DiPietro

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What you can get back is a big contract with smaller cap hit.

For example, Redden + prospect or mid pick for Campbell + 1st. So net net, you save about $2m per year.
Unfortunately for the Hawks you are probably right. Off topic a little but I used to like Redden a lot but did not get to see him at all last year. Was he really as bad as people are saying or is it more that he is just overpaid?


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read you issue again, its talking about 2011.

2010 has guys like Kabanov, Hall, Fowler, Pulkinen, Granlund, Tarasenko, Pysk, Gormley, Gudbranson, McFarland, Hishon, Toffoli, Connoly etc.....
You forgot Adam Larsson

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...=10713&lang=en

Will see some icetime in SEL this season. Same team as David Rundblad & Tim Erixon

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What you can get back is a big contract with smaller cap hit.

For example, Redden + prospect or mid pick for Campbell + 1st. So net net, you save about $2m per year.
No thanks, at least Campbell is a player.

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No, that's the 2011 draft.

And, I can't see why any team would trade for Campbell and his $7.1 cap hit. At this moment, he is untradeable.
ya but we thought gomez was untradeable....

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There is really no point of Chicago trading Campbell for the 2009/10 season. It's next year that his contract could potentially be an big issue(ie Kane and Toews are RFAs).

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you should just do what that EBAY guy did (trading up from a penny to a boat or something) except in reverse. Trade Campbell straight up for someone with a slightly less terrible contract, and then work from there.

holy **** I just had a revelation!

Trade Campbell to the Islanders for DiPietro
$50m left on Campbell's contract vs. $56m left on DiPietro's contract.

Hmm.Pass.

There's a real possibility that DiPietro retires due to injuries and insurance pay his contract.

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I'd do the following

Campbell, Versteeg

Redden, Sauer (good d prospect), Voros (4th liner)

As it stands it doesn't look like you guys can sign Versteeg anyways, and if we don't come to terms with Zherdev we need to replace him somehow. Redden really turned it around second half and while i (or anyone for that matter) don't think he'll return to his '06 form, he's got a much better contract than campbell. Sauer could step into your 3rd pairing next year and will be a solid, defensive dman.

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No, that's the 2011 draft.

And, I can't see why any team would trade for Campbell and his $7.1 cap hit. At this moment, he is untradeable.
Just wait until Hal Gill goes down half way during the season. Gainey will be forced to pull the trigger.

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He's signed for another SEVEN years. It's not like the deal was heavily front-loaded, either. When he's thirty seven years old, he'll still be making over seven million dollars a year with a cap hit of over seven million. That's just crazy. The guy will probably still be around and still playing at that age, and still collecting a paycheck, too.

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Tomas Kaberle

for

Brian Campbell
Troy Brouwer
Kris Versteeg
1st rounder

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you should just do what that EBAY guy did (trading up from a penny to a boat or something) except in reverse. Trade Campbell straight up for someone with a slightly less terrible contract, and then work from there.

holy **** I just had a revelation!

Trade Campbell to the Islanders for DiPietro
Too bad the Isles have no interest in trading Dipietro.

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