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07-05-2009, 04:36 PM
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I'm definitely interested in seeing what Stewart and Jones can due with some experience under their belts. It'll be interesting to see if Galiardi and Stoa get significant playing time this year as well.
I grew up watching prospect hockey (WHL in my case) so it is fun to follow kids as they come into their skill set. One thing that I miss in following junior hockey closely is the work ethic and enthusiasm. When the kids are striving hard for their goal of playing some level of pro hockey it is just a pleasure to watch. I saw a few go sour almost immediately upone "making it" though. Let's hope next years club resembles a junior squad in more ways than their level of competition.

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On paper when you look at what we are likely to have even with Sakic it doesn't look too good. Then again I could look at our teams for the last 3 years and think on paper they had at least a chance to be competitive. Maybe this is the year they surprise to the upside? Either way I am more excited to watch young talent develop and gel than I am watching aging veterans underachieve and gather moss. I can definitely live with another bad year if it means a top 5 pick.
Oh I agree. Having gems like Galiardi and Gaunce blossom as well as Cohen and Shattenkirk

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Does Cohen have a chance being on the roster next year?

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Does Cohen have a chance being on the roster next year?
Both Cohen and Shattenkirk will be with BU next season.

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Does Cohen have a chance being on the roster next year?
The only Avs prospects that I see have a shot on the team for next year are:

- Galliardi
- Stoa

Jones and Stewart aren't considered prospects anymore.
Everyone else [Williams, Kyle C., Gaunce, Cohen, etc.] I expect to be playing with their respective leagues currently.

Maybe if one of the players have a hell of a camp they won't make the team. Tho, even if they did have a hell of a camp, there wouldn't be room on the roster since most of our 'higher' end prospects are Dmen unless we ship a few Dmen out, which is still possible.

Side note: Dark Horse is Duchene. We'll see how his camp goes.

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Does Cohen have a chance being on the roster next year?
None at all. Shattenkirk is a guy who could probably play if he really wanted to, but Cohen needs at least another year to develop his defensive game.

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Both Shatty and Cohen should remain at BU one more year, if either signs an NHL contract they cannot be sent down. Besides, d-men take awhile to develop.

I do not believe our offensive situation is lost at all. The season depends on young kids. IMO, to begin the rebuild in earnest, young D-men and forwards need to be used immediately to get broken in for future seasons.

Here are some competitive lines that assume Sakic will be back and Duchene will impress at camp (both probable):

Duchene-Sakic-Stewart
Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Stoa-Wolski-Svatos
Mcleod-Hensick-Jones

Foote-Liles
Quincey-Gaunce
Preissing-Williams

Anderson
Budaj

Trade or sent down: Tucker, Clark, Salei, Hannan

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It is hard to know if it is a good idea to even want Duchene to play on the Avs next season. Everything indicates it might be a pretty tough season ahead and I am not a big fan of putting too much responsibility on guys that young. I would be more willing to give him a shot if Sakic is coming back, hoping to get some mentor thing going.

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Both Shatty and Cohen should remain at BU one more year, if either signs an NHL contract they cannot be sent down. Besides, d-men take awhile to develop.

I do not believe our offensive situation is lost at all. The season depends on young kids. IMO, to begin the rebuild in earnest, young D-men and forwards need to be used immediately to get broken in for future seasons.

Here are some competitive lines that assume Sakic will be back and Duchene will impress at camp (both probable):

Duchene-Sakic-Stewart
Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Stoa-Wolski-Svatos
Mcleod-Hensick-Jones

Foote-Liles
Quincey-Gaunce
Preissing-Williams

Anderson
Budaj

Trade or sent down: Tucker, Clark, Salei, Hannan
That pairing would get slaughtered. Not only by the likes of Iginla or Crosby, but by every 4th line on any given team.

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07-06-2009, 09:20 AM
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All I'm saying is after picking up an elite Left Winger like Hall or Kabanov or an elite Defender like Fowler... The Avalanche should be a force in 2010-2011...

Hall-Duchene-Wolski
Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Stoa-Hensick-Stewart
McLeod-O'Reilly-Svatos

Liles-Cohen
Shattenkirk-Gaunce
Quincy-Williams

(I don't even want to speculate on the Avs goalies in the 2010-2011 NHL Season)

But all I'm saying..

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All I'm saying is after picking up an elite Left Winger like Hall or Kabanov or an elite Defender like Fowler... The Avalanche should be a force in 2010-2011...

Hall-Duchene-Wolski
Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Stoa-Hensick-Stewart
McLeod-O'Reilly-Svatos

Liles-Cohen
Shattenkirk-Gaunce
Quincy-Williams

(I don't even want to speculate on the Avs goalies in the 2010-2011 NHL Season)

But all I'm saying..
I really like the look of that lineup other then Svatos. Since he is a UFA in the offseason, I don't see us re-signing him when he have Jones for 2 season. Maybe the Avs can trade Hannan, Salei, Clark and Svatos before the trade deadline so we get something in return for them.

I wouldn't mind something like this:

Hall(we can only dream?)-Duchene-Wolski
Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Stoa-Hensick-Jones
McLeod-O'Reilly-Stewart

Liles-Cohen
Shattenkirk-Gaunce
Quincy-Williams

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Both Shatty and Cohen should remain at BU one more year, if either signs an NHL contract they cannot be sent down. Besides, d-men take awhile to develop.

I do not believe our offensive situation is lost at all. The season depends on young kids. IMO, to begin the rebuild in earnest, young D-men and forwards need to be used immediately to get broken in for future seasons.

Here are some competitive lines that assume Sakic will be back and Duchene will impress at camp (both probable):

Duchene-Sakic-Stewart
Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Stoa-Wolski-Svatos
Mcleod-Hensick-Jones

Foote-Liles
Quincey-Gaunce
Preissing-Williams

Anderson
Budaj

Trade or sent down: Tucker, Clark, Salei, Hannan

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07-07-2009, 02:10 PM
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If Joe comes back:

Wolski - Stastny - Hejduk
Stoa/Galiardi - Sakic- Svatos
McLeod - Hensick - Stewart
Tucker - Hendricks - Jones
Koci

Without Sakic:

McLeod - Stastny - Hejduk
Galiardi - Wolski - Svatos
Stoa - Hensick - Stewart
Tucker - Hendricks - Jones
Koci

Hannan - Liles
Quincey - Salei
Clark - Foote
Preissing

Anderson
Budaj

Let's say Hannan and Salei get traded:

Quincey - Liles
Peltier - Foote
Clark - Vernace
Preissing

Yeah!
Without Sakic.....McLeod on 1st line??

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Both Shatty and Cohen should remain at BU one more year, if either signs an NHL contract they cannot be sent down. Besides, d-men take awhile to develop.

I do not believe our offensive situation is lost at all. The season depends on young kids. IMO, to begin the rebuild in earnest, young D-men and forwards need to be used immediately to get broken in for future seasons.

Here are some competitive lines that assume Sakic will be back and Duchene will impress at camp (both probable):

Duchene-Sakic-Stewart
Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Stoa-Wolski-Svatos
Mcleod-Hensick-Jones

Foote-Liles
Quincey-Gaunce
Preissing-Williams

Anderson
Budaj

Trade or sent down: Tucker, Clark, Salei, Hannan
I dont think that Duchene is NHL ready.

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I think Duchene just became NHL ready

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With Joe gone, the picture is starting to clear up a bit.

Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Wolski-Duchene-Svatos
Jones-Hensick-Stewart
McLeod-?????-Tucker
Koci

Hannan-Liles
Quincey-Foote
Salei-Preissing
Clark

Anderson
Budaj

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With Joe gone, the picture is starting to clear up a bit.

Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Wolski-Duchene-Svatos
Jones-Hensick-Stewart
McLeod-?????-Tucker
Koci

Hannan-Liles
Quincey-Foote
Salei-Preissing
Clark

Anderson
Budaj
Koci might fill that 4th line center spot

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With Joe gone, the picture is starting to clear up a bit.

Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Wolski-Duchene-Svatos
Jones-Hensick-Stewart
McLeod-?????-Tucker
Koci
Offense looks awfully thin. We need more depth. One or two injury alone could destroy our next season.

Usually our strength has been offense, but now I see it as our weakness.

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With Joe gone, the picture is starting to clear up a bit.

Galiardi-Stastny-Hejduk
Wolski-Duchene-Svatos
Jones-Hensick-Stewart
McLeod-?????-Tucker
Koci

Hannan-Liles
Quincey-Foote
Salei-Preissing
Clark

Anderson
Budaj
Galiardi over Stewart/Wolski/Jones on the 1st line? The kid is good but needs to add some weight. Our 3rd line will be killed, we have no 4th line center, and our D is overpaid.

I like the new tank plan a lot more.

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Offense looks awfully thin. We need more depth. One or two injury alone could destroy our next season.
I see the start of the 2009-2010 season as the biggest thing that could destroy our next season

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Offense looks awfully thin. We need more depth. One or two injury alone could destroy our next season.

Usually our strength has been offense, but now I see it as our weakness.
It's an awfully young team up front. They have loads of potential, but whether they make good on it or not will be interesting.

I mean 9 of our 12 forwards our under 27 (and only Svatos is that old).

In fact, our average age up front, including Hejduk and Tucker, is 24.72.

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Galiardi over Stewart/Wolski/Jones on the 1st line? The kid is good but needs to add some weight. Our 3rd line will be killed, we have no 4th line center, and our D is overpaid.

I like the new tank plan a lot more.
Im looking for more balance and who is a better fit. Galiardi is a good playmaker and has speed which would fit well on a line with Hejduk and Stastny. I think this "needs to add weight" thing is overblown. He'll have a full summer of working out to prepare for next year.


How exactly will our third line "be killed"?

And I realize we have no fourth line center, thats why I left it blank because I expect the Avs to sign one.

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Without Sakic.....McLeod on 1st line??
Yeah, why not? Doesn't mean he'll play 20 minutes a game.

- We have no top 6 LW. Wolski can play that position, but who would center our 2nd line then? (I doubt Duchene stays with the Avs this year.)

- Smyth, Stastny, Hejduk played pretty good together. I'm not suggesting McLeod could adequately replace Smyth but he could play a somewhat similar role on that line. Give him a chance with skilled players and see what he can do. If he's lost out there: no biggie, we're not contending anyway.

With so much youth and questionable talent to work with, I expect a lot of line shuffling anyway.

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I think Stoa and O'Reilly would anchor that third line sooner than expected, why not give them a spot earlier than later, I understand the contract situation, but you have to hope these guys will developp faster and stick with the Avs once they can become UFA's

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I see the start of the 2009-2010 season as the biggest thing that could destroy our next season

Well said. Right on.

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