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07-07-2009, 04:10 PM
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Knee Problem

Hey guys I was looking for some input about a problem I had with my knee.

So last weekend I'm playing in the CBC Play On Street Hockey and in the second half of the second game I messed up my knee.

I play D so I was coming out of my own end and I went to cut back to the other side to make a pass but when I planted my right left to shift to the left I felt and heard a poping in my knee and followed but immediate pain.

After about 5 minutes the pain was gone and it was just very stiff. A trainer came and done some stretches on it and there was no pain at all, just stiffness.

So now a week and a half later it still is somewhat stiff but its slowly getting better. I played ice hockey on Sunday and while my mobility was affected there wasnt much pain at all.

So that`s the situation with my knee. Here`s what I wanted to know about: I recently joined a gym and started doing split workouts. The Thursday before the CBC street hockey (Saturday) I done a full workout on my legs. I read somewhere that your groin and hamstring directly affect the way your knees move.

I was wondering if what i had done in the gym that Thursday affected how my knee reacted to the movement that I made 1000`s of time before or what it just bad luck and was bound to happen because I have played alot of ball hockey which is very hard on your joints.

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This sounds like your typical ACL injury from changing directions quickly.

Go see your doctor to determine the severity of your ACL injury. A Grade 1 injury with no damage to the other ligaments will heal with some time off and

To answer your question about muscle balance... your knee requires the following muscles to be strong, stable, flexible, and balanced in strength:

Hamstrings
Quads (thigh muscles)
Gluteus Medius (muscle attached to the hip)
Calf

It's hard to say why your knee was injured w/o further evaluation, but my guess is that your muscles were stiff or weakened from your workout.

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Without pain there is no real issue. Though I suggest you seek professional medical attention if you are concerned.

The stiffness is most likely caused by your workouts, and not pop you felt in your knee.

If you injured your ACL, MCL, LCL, or PCL in any way shape or form you would be experiencing pain along with with a limited range of motion and possibly instability in the joint.

I tore up my knee two months ago and I still have days of extreme pain.

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my moms a PT and i get back pains sometimes in high intensity actvitys. i asked her about it and she said that i needed to stretch my hamstrings more. i started stretching every morning. my back got better and so did my legs. just try stretching your prolly really tight.

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Hey guys I was looking for some input about a problem I had with my knee.

So last weekend I'm playing in the CBC Play On Street Hockey and in the second half of the second game I messed up my knee.

I play D so I was coming out of my own end and I went to cut back to the other side to make a pass but when I planted my right left to shift to the left I felt and heard a poping in my knee and followed but immediate pain.
The real question is where the pain was located. Was it directly under the kneecap? Was it more toward the outside of the knee but still in that horizontal plane? Was it more toward the inside but still in that horizontal plane? Was it in the back further up the thigh, in the front further up the thigh, or down slightly toward the shin?

There's a lot of muscle and connective tissue in the immediate area of the knee. I mean, I found a way to strain my sartorius one time (I have no clue how).

Use the picture, mark on MS Paint or something where exactly the pain is, and we'll go from there.



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After about 5 minutes the pain was gone and it was just very stiff. A trainer came and done some stretches on it and there was no pain at all, just stiffness.
What kind of stretching?

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So now a week and a half later it still is somewhat stiff but its slowly getting better. I played ice hockey on Sunday and while my mobility was affected there wasnt much pain at all.

So that`s the situation with my knee. Here`s what I wanted to know about: I recently joined a gym and started doing split workouts. The Thursday before the CBC street hockey (Saturday) I done a full workout on my legs. I read somewhere that your groin and hamstring directly affect the way your knees move.
Well, both the groin and hamstring are actually groups of multiple muscles; it's possible to injure one of the hamstring muscles but not the others (ditto with the groin).

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I was wondering if what i had done in the gym that Thursday affected how my knee reacted to the movement that I made 1000`s of time before or what it just bad luck and was bound to happen because I have played alot of ball hockey which is very hard on your joints.
If you do an unusual workout, the most common thing you'll think the next day is "I didn't even know I had a muscle there". It's entirely possible that your workout ended up targeting a muscle that you rarely use and overloaded it to the extent that it wouldn't have recovered in time for your game. What can happen in that case is that the rest of the nearby muscles have to bear an unusual load, which can lead to a strain there (or something more serious).

If you had no swelling at all originally, it's unlikely that you suffered a ligament tear. It is certainly possible to suffer a severe ligament tear simply by changing directions, but the detection of a pop doesn't necessarily indicate a ligament injury.

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This is absolutely ridiculous. Not even a trained orthopedic specialist could diagnose the people without a proper examination, and even at that the Dr would be order x-rays and MRI's before giving his diagnosis.

People, stop offering people medical advice. The only advice you should be giving is - go to the doctor and have it checked - period. Knee injuries are pretty serious and VERY complicated. It can sound like nothing when in fact it's actually something pretty serious.

STOP THE MADNESS!

To the OP. If your think you've injured your knee, go to the doctor and have it checked. That's the only way you will know for sure what is or isn't wrong. Hell, at the very least ask the questions at WebMD or something.


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This is absolutely ridiculous. Not even a trained orthopedic specialist could diagnose the people without a proper examination, and even at that the Dr would be order x-rays and MRI's before giving his diagnosis.

People, stop offering people medical advice. The only advice you should be giving is - go to the doctor and have it checked - period. Knee injuries are pretty serious and VERY complicated. It can sound like nothing when in fact it's actually something pretty serious.

STOP THE MADNESS!

To the OP. If your think you've injured your knee, go to the doctor and have it checked. That's the only way you will know for sure what is or isn't wrong. Hell, at the very least ask the questions at WebMD or something.
Agreed. .... this coming from a guy who tore his bicep and opted not to see a doctor. I gauged the severity of it by how I felt.

Seriously .... one knows if they are hurt badly because your afflicted area doesn't perform well if something is torn. For the record for the original poster I tore my bicep and it did not hurt all that much yet was a pretty serious injury.

Sometimes a serious injury doesn't hurt as badly. Take the poster above mine's advice and see a doctor if you are not sure. I didn't see one because I am not insured and I start playing this week again after almost 6 weeks of not playing hockey. I gauged that it was not a torn or ruptured tendon and it was muscle, previous experieince with a torn hamstring is what I went on and so far so good after about 6 weeks.

You mentioned stiffness without pain and affected mobility.

This means you have hurt something period. You are either making it worse by continuing to play on it or while playing on it you are preventing it from healing. Either way stop playing on it until it feels better.

Example ... I wore a sling and went public skating for the first 2 weeks and then I went public skating without a sling applying a heating pad a couple of times a day when I had the time to do so.

Now I am in stretching it out mode to keep it stretched to help prevent reinjury and to strengthen it with light weights.

THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS WHEN YOU HAVE AN INJURY. The bighgest thing you need is patieince and not rushing it. If you are insured or can afford it go get it looked at.

Your best ally right now is time off from sports until you can gauge how it is healing or NOT healing. You cannot tell if it is healing or not healing if you are always irritating it.

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