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Does this "strongman" workout look good?

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07-09-2009, 04:45 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that smashing something with a sludgehammer as hard as you can is a TERRIBLE idea? It's a great way to dislocate the crap out of your shoulders.
Yeah if you go extra hard on the backswing I could see it, but if you're mainly using your abdomen and lats to smash it down onto a bouncy tire, I think it's fine.

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Yeah if you go extra hard on the backswing I could see it, but if you're mainly using your abdomen and lats to smash it down onto a bouncy tire, I think it's fine.
yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.

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Do any other famous NHL players besides Briere use this kinda stuff? Seems a little unorthodox to me.

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Do any other famous NHL players besides Briere use this kinda stuff? Seems a little unorthodox to me.
A lot of mixed martial artists do it that exercise. I think I saw a video of Claude Giroux doing stuff like it on Youtube....




I found a bunch of cool videos actually...


Here is Giroux racing horses and doing tire flips and weird stuff (working for that Rocky IV status).

Sam Gagne doing lots of plyo's and judo push ups with a hockey stick.

Alzner is doing a lot of his light lifts on the balance boards, which is cool, and an awesome way to build coordination in your stabilizer and core muscles in while you're doing other stuff.


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Just my opinion, but I think everything that's been posted in this thread is average to sub average advice if you want to get fit.

I completely disagree with the upper/lower body split and I really hate the classic bodybuilding split (bis/chest, back/legs, tris/shoulders) for athletes.

Basically, I'm going to have to preach for what I do.

I reallllly like Georges St. Pierre as an athlete. He's an awesome individual and an amazing athlete. I loved it even more when I looked at his training videos and his trainer had the exact same training philosophy as I do.

Basically, you train according to what your body does. That means pulling, pushing, the three different planes and unilateral/bilateral work.

Unilateral work is essential. Yes, that means killing yourself doing side to side pull ups and one leg deadlifts.

Here's a great video of Georges St. Pierre training, literally everything he does here, I also do in my workout(though his strength is humbling) and It's extremely functional training. I have no idea what Loiseau is doing, but hey they're the professionals.



Here's another video of him workout unilaterally. Notice the one leg squats on a bench(which although is one of the first progressions, he's doing with a ton of weight) as well as the dumbell snatches and weighted squat jumps. I wouldn't recommend the DB squat jumps as you can hurt your knee, but you can put some weights on a barbell 1/3rd of your squat weight is generally a good rule of thumb:



Here's two exercises which I am literally always at awe when I see it. I can only wish to be this strong, but imo these two exercises can make you a million times more explosive. My favorite lifter is Iranian, but he's a genetic freak so I'm going to post a guy my mom and grandma know through his brother, just to give him props:

The clean and jerk.


The snatch



His technique is a bit off here but he's lifting an absolutely insane amount of weight.

Here's another good video of the type of explosive work I do in every workout. I often use this as a tabata HIIT workout:




If you're interested in more info on this type of training, I've put my workout excel sheet in a thread in the Lounge forum. I don't think it's updated though as the update has a lot more detail in it. The basics are basically that on a 3 day workout you do full body and on a 4 day split, you do push-pull... but the quality of the exercises as well as the training intensity are both essential.

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07-09-2009, 10:21 PM
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A lot of mixed martial artists do it that exercise. I think I saw a video of Claude Giroux doing stuff like it on Youtube....




I found a bunch of cool videos actually...


Here is Giroux racing horses and doing tire flips and weird stuff (working for that Rocky IV status).

Sam Gagne doing lots of plyo's and judo push ups with a hockey stick.

Alzner is doing a lot of his light lifts on the balance boards, which is cool, and an awesome way to build coordination in your stabilizer and core muscles in while you're doing other stuff.

Gagne . Alzner I wasn't impressed at all.

I'm really jealous of the Oilers, this guy will be one hell of a player.


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yeah, I kinda agree with the fact that the bodybuilder's 3 day split isn't the best for a hockey player. Although I tried that for while, I noticed that it wasn't adapted to my goals so I stopped.

When it comes to strongman exercises, there's lifting, pulling, pushing and carrying. It works all kinds of different muscle groups in different ways.

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07-10-2009, 09:18 AM
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yeah, I kinda agree with the fact that the bodybuilder's 3 day split isn't the best for a hockey player. Although I tried that for while, I noticed that it wasn't adapted to my goals so I stopped.

When it comes to strongman exercises, there's lifting, pulling, pushing and carrying. It works all kinds of different muscle groups in different ways.
Strongman exercises are good for sure.

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07-13-2009, 12:48 PM
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Tire flip are realy nice

Farmer walk too

try to push the tire down versus one of your friend... Realy nice for core muscles...

If you want to improve your strongman exercice give a try in the gym to some bigger bar, bigger grip dumbell or stuff like that, if you don't try something like www.fatgripz.com, I have some and realy love them.

Bigger grip gonna helps you alot in any pull exercices too.

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do crossfit.

www.crossfit.com

find a local affiliate and do WODs with a group; trust me, you'll be in much better shape in four months.

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