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07-12-2009, 09:33 PM
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Graf skates

Are Graf skates run wider than Bauer skates? I have Bauer Vapor 25 in EE size but they are not wide enough for me. I was wondering if Graf's "Wide" skates run wider than Bauer EE size or If not, Is it better to get Graf's "Wide+" size?

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You need something wider than a EE?

I'd suspect that you're measuring your foot wrong, unless you have abnormally large feet.

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Are Graf skates run wider than Bauer skates? I have Bauer Vapor 25 in EE size but they are not wide enough for me. I was wondering if Graf's "Wide" skates run wider than Bauer EE size or If not, Is it better to get Graf's "Wide+" size?
Each graf model has a unique fit, so it really depends on which Graf skate you are talking about.

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Obviously, you have to try them on if you have an abnormal foot like that before buying...

I usually wear a wide skate. My player and goalie skates are both ccm vectors, and I wear a wide. I had a pair of Graf pro goalers in wide, and they were too wide. I don't know how the player skates run.

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Obviously, you have to try them on if you have an abnormal foot like that before buying...

I usually wear a wide skate. My player and goalie skates are both ccm vectors, and I wear a wide. I had a pair of Graf pro goalers in wide, and they were too wide. I don't know how the player skates run.
ok, this answers my question. so Graf's wide is wider than CCM wide.
I dont think my feets are abnormally wide but i do have high instep. i am looking at Graf G70, i just didnt know if I should get G70 Wide or G70 Wide+ I wish my local skate shop has both so I can try them on.

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I had to get my vapor 30 9.25 EEs stretched in the ball of the foot after bakeing but my goal skates vapor 19 EEs fit like a glove before baking.

I had vectors that fit well but the heal cup was a bit to wide.

I have duck feet, the ball of my foot is actually a EEE and the heal is about an E so finding skates is hard for me. I tried the supreme One 95 and that fit very well.

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I had to get my vapor 30 9.25 EEs stretched in the ball of the foot after bakeing but my goal skates vapor 19 EEs fit like a glove before baking.

I had vectors that fit well but the heal cup was a bit to wide.

I have duck feet, the ball of my foot is actually a EEE and the heal is about an E so finding skates is hard for me. I tried the supreme One 95 and that fit very well.

I have two problems.
1. It hurts in the ball of the foot area. (sides of skate)
2. It hurts in the instep(upper side of the foot) area if i dont loosen the lace.
so I skate with very loose lace and i dont feel that I am performing 100% of my ability.
so, do you think one95s run little wider than Vapor line???

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I have two problems.
1. It hurts in the ball of the foot area. (sides of skate)
2. It hurts in the instep(upper side of the foot) area if i dont loosen the lace.
so I skate with very loose lace and i dont feel that I am performing 100% of my ability.
so, do you think one95s run little wider than Vapor line???
yes the one95s run wider, I snug my laces until I get to the top 3 eyelets then I start torquing them down and I use the loop style of tightening them to get them real tight. I have to make sure the tung is in the right place to make sure that it dosnt start to bite while I'm playing.

As for the arch pain that is usually from skates being a bit to big. I don't know what to say.

Try rebaking the boot and having some one who knows what they are doing lace them up for you. The eyelets will rip out of a baked boot if you don't lace them right when they are hot.

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Each graf model has a unique fit, so it really depends on which Graf skate you are talking about.
That is correct. More than likely Graf will have a skate that will fit you properly.

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07-13-2009, 10:11 AM
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That is correct. More than likely Graf will have a skate that will fit you properly.
Yes, I was looking at G70 or its cheaper version 670.

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You sound like you have the same shaped foot as I have.

I have a wide foot (especially at the balls of my feet) and a very high arch. My feet have been described as 'brick-like'.

Because of that, there wasn't a Graf that was wide enough. Part of the issue is that it's very narrow near the front of the toe.
And because the Graf is is more tilted, I never got comfy with them.

I had the same pain you're experiencing; pain at the balls of my feet, at the bottom of my feet, having to untie the laces at the arch.

In the end, I had the skates taken back and they fitted me with some Easton wide skates. The toe box is far wider and roomier for my kind of foot. I haven't looked back since. They fit perfectly and feel like pillows when I skate.

Graf's are very popular and 95% of people out there swear by them. But the shape of my feet don't sit well with their style.
You might be in the same boat.
Both Bauer and CCM never fit my wide foot well either. Easton has been a godsend so far.

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07-13-2009, 05:39 PM
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You sound like you have the same shaped foot as I have.

I have a wide foot (especially at the balls of my feet) and a very high arch. My feet have been described as 'brick-like'.

Because of that, there wasn't a Graf that was wide enough. Part of the issue is that it's very narrow near the front of the toe.
And because the Graf is is more tilted, I never got comfy with them.

I had the same pain you're experiencing; pain at the balls of my feet, at the bottom of my feet, having to untie the laces at the arch.

In the end, I had the skates taken back and they fitted me with some Easton wide skates. The toe box is far wider and roomier for my kind of foot. I haven't looked back since. They fit perfectly and feel like pillows when I skate.

Graf's are very popular and 95% of people out there swear by them. But the shape of my feet don't sit well with their style.
You might be in the same boat.
Both Bauer and CCM never fit my wide foot well either. Easton has been a godsend so far.
I thought Eastons are for people who has low instep/arc...
I will try both Graf and Easton.


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I thought Eastons are for people who has low instep/arc...
I will try both Graf and Easton.
It is 100% personal preference, as nobodies feet are alike. I was told to get Easton's as well, because of my wide feet. They hurt my feet within a minute. The ones that worked for me were Vapor 60's, in a EE. I moderately tighten the bottom and then really tighten the top 5 eyelits. I have never had skates that have fit as good as the Vapor 60's.

No matter what anyone tells you, you have to spend a couple hours in a skate shop finding the exact model that fits you properly. I wore mine around for about an hour until I finally told them to heat them up. You can't size skates on the internet.

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ok... I just found out that my left foot is little bigger than my right foot. and my local pro shop said this is common among all people (one bigger than another). I guess thats why only my left foot was hurting... I decided to punch out my left skate and keep it instead of buying new skates. (save few hundred $) Thanks everyone for comments.


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I thought Eastons are for people who has low instep/arc...
I will try both Graf and Easton.
If they are, I guess I'm an anomaly.

I have very wide feet with a comicaly high arc (I can't even find work shoes that fit right. I always have pain on the top of my arc).

But the Easton's I was fitted for are awesome.

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From reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that everyone here pretty much has horrific feet.

I need custom skates no matter what brand I should go with but have to make do with what I can get as the closest fit.

Good luck to you guys, I have heard good things about Graf sizing for people with special foot issues. A friend of mine who owns a pro shop here was telling me this but didn't go into specifics. he is a Graf dealer though.

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