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07-14-2009, 01:40 PM
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i dont see why everyone thinks hes there for sure, he hasnt even signed yet...
I don't see anyone overpaying for him by making him sign an offer sheet. Nor do I think he will hold out and waste a season - a move that could completely destroy his career.

Sure he hasn't signed yet, but lets just say it would be a massively surprising if it doesn't happen.

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07-14-2009, 01:43 PM
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Unless we pull off a trade, we don't have the cap space to keep Laraque.

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Unless we pull off a trade, we don't have the cap space to keep Laraque.
I'm sure we have the space. Unless plek is looking for the moon.

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My guess is if Chipchura is put on waiver, someone will pick him up.
I'd pick him up before Metro if I was GM

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I'm sure we have the space. Unless plek is looking for the moon.
He's in arbitration so he can't.

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My guess is if Chipchura is put on waiver, someone will pick him up.
Signing him and then putting him on waivers would be a perplexing move.

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don't count Sergei out of the line up . He was really good in his first year second best scorers for us in the playoff but he have a off year after

I expect him to be a beast in the training camp. He sure don't want to be in Hamilton and he want his NHL money

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07-14-2009, 05:14 PM
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I still don't understand the love toward Chipchura.

You don't have to hate the guy Erika style, but still, the guy is far from an exiting prospect... is it just because he was a first rounder? I mean, why aren't you as exited toward a player like Russel?

Chipchura is far from having a spot on this team, he has to earn it... and I doubt the team will cry over losing him threw waivers or via a trade... remember Marcel Hossa... well Chichura is in the exact same situation.

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07-14-2009, 05:52 PM
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Over Chipchura's last seven games in Montreal, he had an average of 49.1% in the faceoff circle. That's not that bad.

Over Metropolit's last seven games in Montreal, over the last few games of the regular season when getting into the playoffs was in doubt, and during the playoffs, basically all the games where we needed him to be at his best, he had a faceoff% of 41.1 percent. That is pathetic for a veteran who people are touting as a faceoff specialist.
+ Chip is young and still can learn a thng a two while Metro is 35 and 4 inches smaller.

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I still don't understand the love toward Chipchura.

You don't have to hate the guy Erika style, but still, the guy is far from an exiting prospect... is it just because he was a first rounder? I mean, why aren't you as exited toward a player like Russel?

Chipchura is far from having a spot on this team, he has to earn it... and I doubt the team will cry over losing him threw waivers or via a trade... remember Marcel Hossa... well Chichura is in the exact same situation.
Would you sniff a guy as good as Carbonneau ? Probably not because you are not seeing it in Chipchura.

Hossa was a very long shot that didn't pan out (why pick so late), his job was to score goals and he didn't. Not the same thing at all.

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Would you sniff a guy as good as Carbonneau ? Probably not because you are not seeing it in Chipchura.

Hossa was a very long shot that didn't pan out (why pick so late), his job was to score goals and he didn't. Not the same thing at all.
Compairing Chipchura to Carbonneau...

It's exactly the same situation, Hossa was an overrated 1st rounder who was suppose to be a first liner... they gave him chance after chance, but never was able to get the job done.

Chipchura is supposed to be a defensive-energy guy, yet he makes tons of mistakes defensively and he can't keep up with the pace...

Different styles, yes, but exact situation...

IMO, this is the last chance to see Chipchura in habs uniform.

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07-14-2009, 07:32 PM
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Compairing Chipchura to Carbonneau...

It's exactly the same situation, Hossa was an overrated 1st rounder who was suppose to be a first liner... they gave him chance after chance, but never was able to get the job done.

Chipchura is supposed to be a defensive-energy guy, yet he makes tons of mistakes defensively and he can't keep up with the pace...

Different styles, yes, but exact situation...

IMO, this is the last chance to see Chipchura in habs uniform.
That's just plain not true at all. I love the guy, I watch him closely, and I have NEVER seen him make a crucial turnover, get caught out of position, or get exposed by a fast opponent.

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07-14-2009, 09:27 PM
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That's just plain not true at all. I love the guy, I watch him closely, and I have NEVER seen him make a crucial turnover, get caught out of position, or get exposed by a fast opponent.
Then you missed a lot of games I guess, I can recall clearly at least half a dozen crucial turnovers in the defensive zone.

The kind of mistakes you just can't make when you're a player like Chipchura. This is the main reason why he hasn't cracked up the lineup.

...and btw, you might want to ask yourself if your love of the guy doesn't blind you from the truth...

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I didn't remember Hossa was a first rounder my bad, doesn't change my point Chip ain't a top line material but we are looking at a new Carbo for sure. Defensive play is the hardest to learn you need maturity, Chip is 23 and won't be establish before 25, It's the same for most defensmen, they rarely are effective before 23/25. Just from the leadership point we should stick on this guy, captain material all over him.

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btw that 2000 draft was pathetic

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Then you missed a lot of games I guess, I can recall clearly at least half a dozen crucial turnovers in the defensive zone.

The kind of mistakes you just can't make when you're a player like Chipchura. This is the main reason why he hasn't cracked up the lineup.

...and btw, you might want to ask yourself if your love of the guy doesn't blind you from the truth...
You can drop the condescending attitude. I know what I've seen. Even the people who dislike Chipchura know he's good defensively. I've seen him play in Hamilton and at the NHL level and I would take him over most other players on our bottom six.

Also: NHL.com has Chipchura with exactly "two" giveaways. As well as three takeaways.


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07-14-2009, 10:09 PM
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I have both Kost brothers to break out hard, especially Sergei.

I'm sick and tired of hearing how Sergei needs to be dumped in the ocean when I kept seeing a hearing how everyone needs to be patient with Lats and how he needs to be on the first line with saku to produce (duh) while Sergei needs to be put on the fourth because he played bad.

Am I the only one who noticed that the K brothers were playing phenomenal until Sauer took out Andrei and Carbo's answer was that the hit was legal, benched Sergei because he was emotional and cheer larque's decision to not avenge the hit? I aplaude the brothers for at least keeping their mouth shut and not starting a media circus, something many many many other players would have done.

On NHL 09 I have these lines (not based on the game's ratings, just the way I see it in real life);

Andrei K - Gomez - Gionta

The two Gs are a given, no secrets there. Andrei is a sniper and can really strive from the outside of these two guys and even lend some support in the corners from time to time (he's no push over, hits hard when he cares).

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Sergei K

Plekanec is still a very good commodity but I think his prodlem is consistency, for times he may not be as sharp I like Sergei's passing skills of not so long ago to come back and find Cam's sniper trifle. I like to spread the talent to have 2 first lines with scoring potential instead of shuving Cam on the first and have the media have a feild day on the second.

Lats - Laps - D'agger

Energy. D'agger's a quick sniper with a guy like Laps he can break out and take the other team, who's thinking "third line, we attack", by surprise. Lats is a power forward that was pampered and has self esteem problems, he needs to play with Laps in order to be the real player he can be.

Paciorety/Stewart - Metropolit - Moen/Laraque

The make 'em pay line that last year's high horse staff thought we didn't need. Metro is a solid center that doesn't do many mistakes and has experience, a perfect commander for the soldiers at either side of him.
I like the idea of rotating Stewart and Pac man depending on what team we play, they're both physical in their own way.
Keeping BGL on the LTRL until we play a Chara on the second half then he can be traded at the deadline for a sac of potatoes, this is Moen's spot while BGL is a peice taht won't fit.

Chipchura will need to fight Metro which is a shame because I really like him for our future bottom 6 leader (there is such a thing and it's always overlooked, look at it like football, not like the QB will tell a defensive tackle what to do right? same here)

Defense is easy, I like the idea of a Big man on each duo for teams that might look to try and push us around. Who needs a fighter who can skate with the best when you have a tower looking over everyone?

It's Price's team, Halak knows it but we need a staff that does too and not tell him he's got a shot of taking the spot. That's when things **** up. Works short term but you have a number one with no confidence and a number two thinking of himself in the long run.


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