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07-30-2009, 01:48 PM
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who will quarter back the power play for the marlies?

which marlie defence will start the offensive rush from the back end?

they need a player like a nathan dempsey, derrrk walser, chris snell, pilar..someone who is an offensive dmen.

gone are the days when we started with stralman, boumedienne, kronwall and sifer.

All I know its going to be pretty competetive upfront for the marlies

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07-30-2009, 01:52 PM
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Sign an AHLer for the Marlies for maybe a two year deal, then draft a PMD next year in maybe the second or third round. I think we need another forward with our first round pick again.

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No rush for a puck mover, as there is no openings in the next couple seasons anyway on the Leafs.

Let's just let the kids play and who knows what will happen on the Marlies.
Definitely. There is no need for a puck mover, or a re-mover.
Kaberle is one of the best. White can pass that thang. Beauchemin, Van Ryn, they can pass that thang. I'm even forgetting someone.... there is no need at all. They can really pass that puck, especially Kaberle. These d-men can move the puck like almost any other team in the league. Stralman had the ability to pass the puck yeah, but so do others and these other players can actually play also the body. Stralman can't. I'm very glad the Leafs got rid of him.

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Ian White's been improving by leaps and bounds every season since he's been here.

We'll be fine for awhile

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Sign an AHLer for the Marlies for maybe a two year deal, then draft a PMD next year in maybe the second or third round. I think we need another forward with our first round pick again.
Either a top level winger or a puck moving D at the draft. IMO both are our biggest needs in the prospect pool. Luckily wingers and defenceman comprise a majority of the top 10-15 next year, at the moment.

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question:

who will quarter back the power play for the marlies?

which marlie defence will start the offensive rush from the back end?

they need a player like a nathan dempsey, derrrk walser, chris snell, pilar..someone who is an offensive dmen.

gone are the days when we started with stralman, boumedienne, kronwall and sifer.

All I know its going to be pretty competetive upfront for the marlies
The Leafs are out of contracts if Burke wants to leave some breathing room. Maybe the Marlies will sign a guy who is waiting to see if he can get an NHL deal and doesn't end up gettting one.

Maybe Gustavsson will be that guy if nothing else happens.

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07-30-2009, 02:15 PM
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Gunnarsson, I mean of course.

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07-30-2009, 02:20 PM
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Gunnarsson, I mean of course.
I'm actually pretty excited to see what Gunnarsson can do in the AHL.

I thought he looked pretty solid for Team Sweden at the recent World Championships.

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07-30-2009, 05:24 PM
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you serious..mooseoak..gunnarsson?
16 pts in 53 games 08/09 and 9 pts in 53 games in 07/08

I was looking for a john slaney or walser type of defencemen. someone who could lead the offense as well as provide that veteran leadership to bring the young defensive core (ie. mikus and gunnarsson) along.

I dont think he's going to be the offensive threat in the back end the leafs are looking for.

mikus--> No offence
oreskovic--> no offence

I really cant see any dmen on the marlies leading the offensive charge.

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Well the marlies will have blacker after this year and hes supposed to have an improving offensive game

got

- above average wheels
- a hard shot

also mikus is supposed to be an offensive defenseman aswell

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Perhaps there's a guy in the system who could eventually fill the roll? Or maybe we already have him in Ian White? There's also a draft next year, where we could very likely be picking in the top ten, again.

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07-30-2009, 05:38 PM
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mikus--> No offence
Uh ... what? He wasn't drafted for his looks and personality.

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Stralman was moved due to a surplus of defencemen, why would Burke go out and try to replace him now?

Funny that someone who writes about the Leafs doesn't know that Ian White is on the team.
Agreed. Didn't even read the article.

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question:

who will quarter back the power play for the marlies?

which marlie defence will start the offensive rush from the back end?

they need a player like a nathan dempsey, derrrk walser, chris snell, pilar..someone who is an offensive dmen.

gone are the days when we started with stralman, boumedienne, kronwall and sifer.

All I know its going to be pretty competetive upfront for the marlies
That's why they play the games to see who wins, who steps up, who surprises, who disappoints.

Carl Gunnarsson 6' 2" 189 9 Nov 1986 22 Orebro, SWE
Korbinian Holzer 6' 3" 190 16 Feb 1988 21 Munich, DEU
Juraj Mikus 6' 4" 185 30 Nov 1988 20 Trencin, SVK
Jay Rosehill 6' 3" 195 16 Jul 1985 24 Olds, AB, CAN
Phil Oreskovic 6' 4" 217 26 Jan 1987 22 North York, ON, CAN

Maxim Semenov 6' 0" 183 9 Feb 1984 25 Kazakhstan, KAZ
Dmitri Vorobiev 6' 1" 211 18 Oct 1985 23 Togliatti, RUS

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That's why they play the games to see who wins, who steps up, who surprises, who disappoints.

Carl Gunnarsson 6' 2" 189 9 Nov 1986 22 Orebro, SWE
Korbinian Holzer 6' 3" 190 16 Feb 1988 21 Munich, DEU
Juraj Mikus 6' 4" 185 30 Nov 1988 20 Trencin, SVK
Jay Rosehill 6' 3" 195 16 Jul 1985 24 Olds, AB, CAN
Phil Oreskovic 6' 4" 217 26 Jan 1987 22 North York, ON, CAN

Maxim Semenov 6' 0" 183 9 Feb 1984 25 Kazakhstan, KAZ
Dmitri Vorobiev 6' 1" 211 18 Oct 1985 23 Togliatti, RUS
Damn that's abysmal. Vorobiev is gone and should be taken off everyones lists. He'll probably come over when he's 28 or 29.

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That's why they play the games to see who wins, who steps up, who surprises, who disappoints.

Carl Gunnarsson 6' 2" 189 9 Nov 1986 22 Orebro, SWE
Korbinian Holzer 6' 3" 190 16 Feb 1988 21 Munich, DEU
Juraj Mikus 6' 4" 185 30 Nov 1988 20 Trencin, SVK
Jay Rosehill 6' 3" 195 16 Jul 1985 24 Olds, AB, CAN
Phil Oreskovic 6' 4" 217 26 Jan 1987 22 North York, ON, CAN

Maxim Semenov 6' 0" 183 9 Feb 1984 25 Kazakhstan, KAZ
Dmitri Vorobiev 6' 1" 211 18 Oct 1985 23 Togliatti, RUS
Jay Rosehill is a forward.

There is a "Jay Rosehill Sucks" forum on the web with this byline:

Discussion forum for Jay Rosehill's anti-fans. Does he suck? Please tell us why. Please do not post inappropriate comments, this is a friendly forum for fans.

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Jay Rosehill is a forward.

There is a "Jay Rosehill Sucks" forum on the web with this byline:

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Capgeek has him as a D, they appear to be wrong.

So does: http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/team/app?s...team/prospects

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I'm not sure what you think mooseoak or ulf55 but i think its going to be joe ryan and josh engel leading the marlies dmen in pts. cause in my opinion those two are the only guys who seem to put up points

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I'm not sure what you think mooseoak or ulf55 but i think its going to be joe ryan and josh engel leading the marlies dmen in pts. cause in my opinion those two are the only guys who seem to put up points
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=73840
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=73289
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=94563
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=105421
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=89593
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=76866

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=70828
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=77362

Not sure any of these guys are the answer, but we'll find out shortly.

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There is definately a misconception that a player who is good offensively is automatically a good puck mover. MVR is good offensively, but not necessarily a good puck mover. He needs a puck mover to be successful. Kaberle is an elite puck mover, and is good offensively but he has his weaknesses in the offensive zone. White is as close to Kaberle as we have as a puck mover, but he is above avaerage at best.
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MVR and White would have to share duties in the absence of Kaberle.

Either way, I think we're okay but I would like to see Kaberle stick with the club.

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you serious..mooseoak..gunnarsson?
16 pts in 53 games 08/09 and 9 pts in 53 games in 07/08

I was looking for a john slaney or walser type of defencemen. someone who could lead the offense as well as provide that veteran leadership to bring the young defensive core (ie. mikus and gunnarsson) along.

I dont think he's going to be the offensive threat in the back end the leafs are looking for.

mikus--> No offence
oreskovic--> no offence

I really cant see any dmen on the marlies leading the offensive charge.
16 points is actually pretty good for a young defenceman in the SEL. Remember that they don't give second assists there. I saw Gunnarson score a goal on a good shot from the blueline in the World Championships. He's a long shot for the Leafs, of course, but an interesting long shot, IMO. And he probably has more offensive potential than most of the defenders in the Leafs system.

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There is definately a misconception that a player who is good offensively is automatically a good puck mover. MVR is good offensively, but not necessarily a good puck mover. He needs a puck mover to be successful. Kaberle is an elite puck mover, and is good offensively but he has his weaknesses in the offensive zone. White is as close to Kaberle as we have as a puck mover, but he is above avaerage at best.
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MVR and White would have to share duties in the absence of Kaberle.

Either way, I think we're okay but I would like to see Kaberle stick with the club.
So true.

Usually the D's with the howitzer aren't the puck movers on the team.

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We're at least 2 years awway from needing a puckmover. White looks like he's going to be here for the long haul, we've got Kaberle tied up for 2 more years, and Beauchemin isn't terrible with the puck.

We've gotta draft a couple more, but the urgency isn't very high right now.

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Sorry, Just realized you were talking about the Marlies


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