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07-31-2009, 01:12 PM
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Pronger's contract investigated

http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php via sporting news

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from Craig Custance of the Sporting News,

Marian Hossa’ contract isn’t the only one being scrutinized by the NHL. An NHL source told SportingNews.com that the league is investigating Philadelphia’s 7-year deal with Chris Pronger to see if it circumvented the CBA and salary cap.

NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly confirmed the investigation of Pronger’s contract in an e-mail to SportingNews.com.

Daly said Pronger’s contract was being investigated for the same reasons as Hossa’s deal.

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Well isn't that great news.....

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I totally called that one.

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Why investigate it? I thought it was for the most part established that Pronger's will count against the cap anyway?

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You know what I don't get about all this? Why does the NHL approve the contract and THEN go about investigating it? Like, shouldn't that be done in reverse order?

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maybe i'm just being naive since it's my team, but pronger seems like a guy who really wants to play - the hatcher mold (mentally). i donno that he'd sign a deal with any extra years knowing that he wasn't going to play them. call it pride or whatever

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This is ****ing stupid BTW. The NHL should not approve such a deal and THEN investigate.

It's a little late at this point.

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You know what I don't get about all this? Why does the NHL approve the contract and THEN go about investigating it? Like, shouldn't that be done in reverse order?
This is what confuses me also...

"ok, no problem, we'll process it"

weeks later....

"wait a minute...."

I suppose that contracts being legal documents, they probably require some time to sort through

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You know what I don't get about all this? Why does the NHL approve the contract and THEN go about investigating it? Like, shouldn't that be done in reverse order?
That would make much too much sense for the NHL

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This is ****ing stupid BTW. The NHL should not approve such a deal and THEN investigate.

It's a little late at this point.
This is the CBA the NHL and the owners wanted.....Deal with the consequences until the time comes to renegotiate

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Well since we have a cap hit if he retires I dont think its on the same leg as hossa and co

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If Pronger and Hossa get investigated, they HAVE to investigate Zetterberg. His deal is exactly like Hossa's.

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This is what confuses me also...

"ok, no problem, we'll process it"

weeks later....

"wait a minute...."

I suppose that contracts being legal documents, they probably require some time to sort through
Yea, I guess there has to be a sensible reason. They did the same thing to the Leafs on the Frogren contract. Approved it, then docked them a draft pick later. One would think if there's a problem, the NHL should notify the teams and player first so that they can fix it before they're penalized.

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That would make much too much sense for the NHL
Sad but true.

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It's dumb that they'd approve it and then investigate it.

It's nowhere near as bad as Hossa's, and Franzen's and Zetterberg's are worse as well. We can't be relieved of Pronger's cap hit, haven't we punished ourselves with that situation enough to not be punished by the NHL, haha. Seriously though, if the Flyers catch any flack for Pronger's contract, Detroit and Chicago both better wind up in deep **** too...and that **** better be much deeper.

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It is a different scene but anyone remember when the Flyers traded Pete Peeters/Keith Acton to the Jets before the waiver draft then the Jets traded the pair back to the Flyers after the draft for a future pick?

Afterwards, John Zeigler said there was no evidence that the teams were lying but he still fined the Flyers and Jets saying that it was a "loaning of players" which was prohibited by NHL bylaws despite the fact that both organizations said the transaction was legit and the Jets got a draft pick in return.

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Pronger's contract isn't the same as Hossa's because of the length, salary break down per year, and the age which they signed the contract/when the extension begins. I have a feeling that it'll come back fine and they are doing this because they (1) have a bias against the Flyers (or so it always seems) and (2) they want to make everyone feel they are doing their jobs by not just looking into the Hawks. What every happened to looking into Ohlund's contract?

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Why didn't the NHL realize this when the Wings did this twice with Zed and Franz. So ****ing stupid, it's like they just realized there is a loop hole...

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Why didn't the NHL realize this when the Wings did this twice with Zed and Franz. So ****ing stupid, it's like they just realized there is a loop hole...
Exactly. When the Wings got away with it, twice, Chicago just one-upped them. Philadelphia follows suit. And then the NHL goes ...

"wait a sec, hmmm, something looks fishy"

after giving all the contracts the thumbs up.

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Exactly. When the Wings got away with it, twice, Chicago just one-upped them. Philadelphia follows suit. And then the NHL goes ...

"wait a sec, hmmm, something looks fishy"

after giving all the contracts the thumbs up.

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Its obviously cause Philly did it

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I am totally shocked by this news.

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I actually think investigating Chicago's contract with Hossa makes sense since it is an unintended circumvention of the salary cap (yes they're investigating it too late, I also agree with that), call it creative accountancy or whatever you will.

Don't really see where they're going with this investigation into the Flyers though since Pronger is slated to count against the cap regardless of retirement. It makes all the difference in my opinion.

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I truly believe that no one in the NHL really has a clue about anything, and just makes **** up as they go along.

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I truly believe that no one in the NHL really has a clue about anything, and just makes **** up as they go along.
That I tend to agree with as well, considering some of Campbell's interviews. His method of handing out suspensions is a pretty laughable example of the NHL at work.

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Why are they investigating us? We're not circumventing the cap with his contract, we're more or less being punished by it.

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Investigating Hossa? Makes sense, I wouldn't be shocked at all if he has no intention of playing out the length of that contract.

Investigating Pronger? That I don't get...we get stuck with the cap hit if he does retire (thus, it can't "circumvent the cap"), so then they're just investigating whether the Flyers are giving away money to a player they want on their team and accepting a salary cap hit long-term?

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I'm surprised the league is looking into Pronger's contract, if only for the fact that the Flyers will be stuck with a hefty cap hit if he retires.

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