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07-30-2009, 04:08 PM
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I don't even comprehend this alien banter anymore, its all gibberish as far as I'm concerned.

Last summer it was Sundin and now its Kaberle.

Kaberle's name should be forbidden to be uttered until he is actually dealt.

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07-30-2009, 04:21 PM
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Vinny is an overpaid player.

Trust me, Tampa is in such dire straights financially, it won't take much to get rid of Vinny. He's about to start a new 10 year contract and be paid till he's 40. No team wants to touch that contract.

Even Gainey, despite all the pressure didn't want to take on that contract.
and yet gomez?

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07-30-2009, 09:18 PM
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Big difference is that Heatley publicly asked for a trade out of Ottawa. Vinny has done nothing to indicate he wants to leave TB.

If Heatley didn't go public, Ottawa could get a much better return IMO.
I don't think that has anything to do with it. Teams just don't want to take on huge contracts with the cap possibly going down 8-10 million.

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07-30-2009, 09:19 PM
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and yet gomez?
Hey, Gomez is still only half the term Vinny is.

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07-30-2009, 09:21 PM
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Sorry if this has been posted before:

http://www.hockeytraderumors.com/topic126.html

Apparently Burke is pushing hard for Lecavalier, but in order to get him, Blake and Kaberle will need to be moved. What sort of deal will TB want?
Better yet... Would Lecavalier wave his NMC to go to Toronto?

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07-30-2009, 09:22 PM
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Better yet... Would Lecavalier wave his NMC to go to Toronto?
Of course he would.

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07-31-2009, 03:47 AM
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"Apparently a source inside the Leafs organization has said Burke is making a serious push for Lecavalier. However he feels Kaberle and Blake would have to be moved in order to properly fit him under the cap. Although this is very unlikely it could possibly happen. Tampa is under financial trouble and probably like to get his big contract off his hands where as if it's 1 thing the Leafs have it is money."

wow, even I can write rumours like this. Are you guys reading this? This rumour and source is a joke

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07-31-2009, 04:17 AM
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LOL. You're not going to get that kind of package for Lecavalier. Forget it. Look at the dissapointing "Best Offer" Edmonton gave Ottawa for Heatley. You're not going to get any team offering a bunch of top picks and prospects for a 30 year old who's in the first year of a massive 10 year contract.
Try reading what I wrote before bashing what I said will you? Of course the leafs wont do it! They would be stupid to give up that sort of package especially considering there in a rebuild mode. Whether you like it or not, thats the type of package that will take to get Vinny out of Tampa. In other words, WONT HAPPEN!

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07-31-2009, 04:59 AM
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Of course he would.
just curious, what makes you think that?

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07-31-2009, 07:34 AM
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I don't think that has anything to do with it. Teams just don't want to take on huge contracts with the cap possibly going down 8-10 million.
It has everything to do with it. Ottawa are shopping Heatley i.e. looking for the best deal out there now. TB have no inclination to trade Vinny i.e. not getting trading unless the deal blows them away.

We have been hearing these rumours about Vinny being traded for a while now. Don't you think that if a package similar to what Edmonton put together for Heatley would pry Vinny outta Tampa it would be done by now?

To say teams don't want to get a top 5-10 forward in the league because his cap hit is ~$7.25M isn't sensible. Also where do you get this info that the cap is going down $8-$10M?

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07-31-2009, 09:16 AM
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. Whether you like it or not, thats the type of package that will take to get Vinny out of Tampa. In other words, WONT HAPPEN!

It won't take that much because not a single team will considering offering a package like that.

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07-31-2009, 09:23 AM
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To say teams don't want to get a top 5-10 forward in the league because his cap hit is ~$7.25M isn't sensible. Also where do you get this info that the cap is going down $8-$10M?
The 7.25 million cap hit is not the issue. The fact it's a decade long is.

And a lot of people are saying the cap will take a huge hit downward by 8-10 next summer.

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07-31-2009, 09:30 AM
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just curious, what makes you think that?
I took the reply as sarcasm.

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07-31-2009, 10:24 AM
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8 to 10 million? Maybe, but maybe not.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/9...not-be-falling

Hockey fans are historically at the higher end of the salary spectrum for sports fans. (Less layoffs per their bracket).

The economy is turning around. (Hockey's off-season might have been perfectly positioned).

Parity is a money machine across the spectrum of teams. (Teams are playing for something way over 90% of the year, even the bottom feeders).

There is an incentive for the teams to keep their young core players so they won't want to hamstring themselves by claiming loss rather than profit.

Hockey is an honest game which will do well especially in this "back to basics" environment


So. Cap +/-2 million USD. Very livable.

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07-31-2009, 12:35 PM
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It won't take that much because not a single team will considering offering a package like that.

Wow.....I guess some people just refuse to see things the way they are. Lets look at the draft shall we? Prior to what people may think the lightning are in no need to "Shed" Vinny's contract, if that was the case he would have been dealt at the draft. Look at the offer supposeably that was going to send him to the Isle's. It was for three first round draft picks including this years.

Tavares, 1st round 2010, 1st round 2011 for Vinny L. The Isles as they should said no. You honestly think the lightning are going to low ball them selves just because there dealing with the all mighty leafs!? Nope not going to happen. Also Vinny has repeatededly said he doesn't want to play in a big market, he Loves Tampa. Something about going to Ybor (Our next door party town.) and not having to be worried about being mugged while he enjoys himself.

I dont know about you but I would rather play in someplace where I make 10 million a year (Still a 7 million cap hit.) and actually have a personal life, than make 10 million a year and cant leave the house because people wouldn't leave me the **** alone. So I highly doubt he would waive his NMC to go to TO. Lecav, just like Yzerman will remain with one team for the rest of his career. I just wish you (And the rest of HF boards.) Would realize it.

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07-31-2009, 12:59 PM
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It won't take that much because not a single team will considering offering a package like that.
You are completely missing the point. If nobody wants to offer that much then he is NOT going to be traded. I have yet to hear anything from the TB organization saying they want to rid themselves of Vinny.

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07-31-2009, 06:57 PM
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Kaberle,Toskala,Tlusty and a 1st rounder
for vinny

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Kaberle,Toskala,Tlusty and a 1st rounder
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No use for Toskala.

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07-31-2009, 11:04 PM
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ok i was going through the online world and found this. The rumour was published on 25th of July. first of all there is no way kaberle and blake can fetch likes of Vinny there has to be one or more 1st rd has to be added and prospect.. well here is the link..
http://hockeytraderumors.com/article11632.html
1) What would it give the Leafs? They have no team.They would have ONE player?

2) What could they give to get him? All the team?

Why would Vinny accept to come to Toronto who will be far in the standings for a couple of years?

How can someone write those kind of rumors....

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07-31-2009, 11:07 PM
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Kaberle,Toskala,Tlusty and a 1st rounder
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For who? Brian Lawton?

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07-31-2009, 11:10 PM
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That would be a kick to Gainey's Gainies.
If it didn't happen with MTL its because Gainey didnt want to. Lawton probably was asking twice the price even though he probably had a great offer on the table.

Gainey made the right decision...after all we're better off with Cammaleri and Gionta than only Vinny.

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This is even more of a pipe dream than the rumour of Vinny to Montreal was.

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This is even more of a pipe dream than the rumour of Vinny to Montreal was.
I wonder if Burke just gets bored and makes this **** up. It does seem up his alley.

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lol this will never stop. Vinny isnt getting traded. I guess its cool to dream about. I mean the canadian fans have been having wet dreams over the idea since he was drafted. Leaf fans do you want to be in the same boat?

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