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08-03-2009, 10:05 PM
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i honestly cant see him coming to toronto
doubt it will happen
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hahaha! a rock solid back end combined with an offense led by grabovski and zherdev? i like it. and i m a habs fan.
lmao, shadap

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you are not getting White for a headcase.

You want a D-men? How about MVR + a conditional pick. Z's value is much to low to give up a young sub-1M defensemen
zheredevs value is much to low for ian white? LMAO

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I'd love to see the Leafs do this deal, even without the 4th.
Well, yeah. No chance the Rangers give up a pick in that deal. They actually should have a mid round pick coming back to them.

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White, Stajan for Z-man, I doubt Montreal would do that.
Why did I say Montreal?

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Im sorry, who is MVR?

Also, Zherdev's value isnt that low, sorry, this isnt a Heatley type scenario.
well it isnt high and thats for sure and whites low salary and good play makes him even more valuable on our team. MvR would have to be packaged with a pick or prospect and it could be a done deal imo. Im in no rush to get rid of Van Ryn, im pretty sure every leaf fan wants to see finger leave. White could still be trade for zherdev but the cap difference is about 3million.

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Stempniak for Zherdev, DO IT!

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Why did I say Montreal?
ill pass with this one.

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well it isnt high and thats for sure and whites low salary and good play makes him even more valuable on our team. MvR would have to be packaged with a pick or prospect and it could be a done deal imo. Im in no rush to get rid of Van Ryn, im pretty sure every leaf fan wants to see finger leave. White could still be trade for zherdev but the cap difference is about 3million.
Well, yeah. That's why we are trading Zherdev.

For the cap space.

Why would we be taking back salary?

It's why the Stempniak thing makes no sense (unless we just waive his useless ass).

Below zero interest in Van Ryn.

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Im sorry, who is MVR?

Also, Zherdev's value isnt that low, sorry, this isnt a Heatley type scenario.
Well Zherdev's value is quite low considering he said that he will probably be playing in the KHL for the 2010-2011 season. 3.9 Millions a year for a player who's primary goal will be to be playing in the KHL in a year isn't something good for any teams.

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well it isnt high and thats for sure and whites low salary and good play makes him even more valuable on our team. MvR would have to be packaged with a pick or prospect and it could be a done deal imo. Im in no rush to get rid of Van Ryn, im pretty sure every leaf fan wants to see finger leave.
Well Whites value does go down due to the logjam on D, who is White going to play over? Komisarek, no, Beauchemin? No. Kaberle? No, Schenn? No. Exelby? No. Van Ryn? Doubt it. Okay now will Toronto be able get rid of dead weights in Frogren and Finger? Unless they trade away picks.

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Well Zherdev's value is quite low considering he said that he will probably be playing in the KHL for the 2010-2011 season. 3.9 Millions a year for a player who's primary goal will be to be playing in the KHL in a year isn't something good for any teams.
He never said such a thing. In fact, he's only expressed interest in playing for the Rangers and the Rangers only.

He simply said, IIRC, that the KHL would be an option if nothing else worked out.

Our beat writer, Steve Zipay, really dropped the ball when he reported that and I believe truly ****ed up.

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zheredevs value is much to low for ian white? LMAO
Yes, Z has tons of POTENTIAL, but until he starts putting 100% into games, he's a gamble b/c you dont know if he'll show up to play or not. Or weither he'll be around after this season or off to the KHL.

White on the other hand, is a 25yr old #4D (that can also play decent Forward i might add) that makes 850k...and more importantly works his butt off every shift. that type of play lifts a loocker room, whereas Z's loafing might have the opposite effect.

I get your high on Z, I can understand why you'd prefer him over White, definately he is more talented...but it's hardly laughable that a coach might rather keep White than take a flyer on Zherdev.

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Well Whites value does go down due to the logjam on D, who is White going to play over? Komisarek, no, Beauchemin? No. Kaberle? No, Schenn? No. Exelby? No. Van Ryn? Doubt it. Okay now will Toronto be able get rid of dead weights in Frogren and Finger? Unless they trade away picks.
White would prolly make the lineup before Exelby.

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Well Zherdev's value is quite low considering he said that he will probably be playing in the KHL for the 2010-2011 season. 3.9 Millions a year for a player who's primary goal will be to be playing in the KHL in a year isn't something good for any teams.
When did he say this?

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Well Whites value does go down due to the logjam on D, who is White going to play over? Komisarek, no, Beauchemin? No. Kaberle? No, Schenn? No. Exelby? No. Van Ryn? Doubt it. Okay now will Toronto be able get rid of dead weights in Frogren and Finger? Unless they trade away picks.
I disagree. The fact that we're now deep at Defence won't ruin anyone's value... It just tells other teams that someone is available.

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Make no mistake, White has the #5 spot locked up in Toronto after last season.

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White would prolly make the lineup before Exelby.
OK. So trade us Exelby + for Zherdev.

Exelby is something the Rangers lack, anyway.

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Well Whites value does go down due to the logjam on D, who is White going to play over? Komisarek, no, Beauchemin? No. Kaberle? No, Schenn? No. Exelby? No. Van Ryn? Doubt it. Okay now will Toronto be able get rid of dead weights in Frogren and Finger? Unless they trade away picks.
This is why the trade makes so much sense. Both teams are dealing from a positon of strength to fill a position of weakness. The Rangers are a bit weak on defense and need cap space. Toronto has too many d-men and is looking for top-6 forwards. A White+ for Zherdev deal makes sense. Especially if the Rangers can swing a deal for Heatley using that cap space and moving Rozsival.

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OK. So trade us Exelby + for Zherdev.

Exelby is something the Rangers lack, anyway.
I'd do that in a second but im sure most NYR fans wouldnt agree with you.

Exelby/2nd rounder for Zherdev

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White would prolly make the lineup before Exelby.
So Burke traded Kubina for nothing? Nope. Reports were that Leaf scouts were looking at XLB for a while.

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OK. So trade us Exelby + for Zherdev.

Exelby is something the Rangers lack, anyway.
That plus would have to be something more significant then if it was White.

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OK. So trade us Exelby + for Zherdev.

Exelby is something the Rangers lack, anyway.
Exelby is the defensive Hollweg.

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I'd do that in a second but im sure most NYR fans wouldnt agree with you.

Exelby/2nd rounder for Zherdev
Add a minor prospect and that's a done deal. We'll throw in a minor prospect as well.

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Make no mistake, White has the #5 spot locked up in Toronto after last season.
Yeah. If hes with us when the season starts, I'm sure White will be playing.

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That plus would have to be something more significant then if it was White.
I'm really not overly high on White, so it doesn't matter that much to me. White and a 4th = Exelby and a 2nd + a small prospect, to me.

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Yeah. If hes with us when the season starts, I'm sure White will be playing.
So if you dont mind me asking, who plays for TO's defense?

Kaberle-Komisarek
Beauchemain-?????
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