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08-04-2009, 05:18 PM
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Frolov Kopitar Zherdev
Smyth Stoll Williams
Simmonds Zues Brown

Solid, top 2 lines and a smash mouth 3rd with tons of potential to score, I could see it working.

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08-04-2009, 05:19 PM
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why so funny

he's a winger and he's not better than kovalchuk, little, kozlov, or antropov

unless he can play center he's not going to fit in that lineup
Antropov plays center

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If anyone has some free time here is the Zherdov trade thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Interesting read

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=531459

I think that someone will take a shot at him. He is only 24 and still has alot of untapped potential.
That's not "Interesting" that's just HF Groupthink at it's finest.

According to that thread everybody in Columbus is still sore and unable to walk from what Sather did to us.


Sadly, I really wanted to see Zherdev succeed and have a long career in NY.

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kozlov is 37 years old, a lot of people are more talented than him, but he's also one of the smartest players in the nhl. plus he was 2nd in the league in powerplay points last year. you don't have a guy that good playing on your third line. antropov and zherdev are probably about the same in skill level so there is no point in signing one to replace the other.

he may have the talent to replace someone in the thrasher's top 6 (namely peverley) but he plays the wrong position and therefore has no use to the thrashers
The Thrashers top6 is pathetic. Zherdev is better than any forward you have outside the obvious[Kovalchuk] If you dont think Zherdev could crack of all teams the Thrashers top6 then you really have no idea what you're talking about.

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08-04-2009, 05:38 PM
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I really believed Sather would resign him, now the rangers lose there most talented player and I guess Kotalik is his replacement? ...lol

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08-04-2009, 05:43 PM
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I really believed Sather would resign him, now the rangers lose there most talented player and I guess Gaborik is his replacement? ...lol
Fixed.

Kotalik replaced Naslund.

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08-04-2009, 05:44 PM
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Mismanagement by the Rangers.
Hardly.

The team is improved from last season, at least on paper.

The player, per his right, requested arbitration.

The team, per their right, walked away. He did not fit their salary capped payroll.

Everything went exactly as the system dictates.

And the dimestore accountants and GMs now criticize....For they surely had a better plan.

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The Thrashers top6 is pathetic. Zherdev is better than any forward you have outside the obvious[Kovalchuk] If you dont think Zherdev could crack of all teams the Thrashers top6 then you really have no idea what you're talking about.
Brian Little and Kozlov are better

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Brian Little and Kozlov are better
Little? Maybe...in a couple year's. Kozlov? I dont think so.

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No surprise here.
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I really believed Sather would resign him, now the rangers lose there most talented player and I guess Kotalik is his replacement? ...lol
lets look at it. Ended yr with

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Antropov, Dubinsky, Callahan
Avery, Drury, Korpikoski
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr

Now have

Higgins, Dubinsky, Gaborik
Kotalik, Drury, Callahan
Avery, Anisimov, Lisin
Byers, Boyle, Brashear

what's better in peoples eyes?

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08-04-2009, 06:25 PM
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lets look at it. Ended yr with

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Antropov, Dubinsky, Callahan
Avery, Drury, Korpikoski
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr

Now have

Higgins, Dubinsky, Gaborik
Kotalik, Drury, Callahan
Avery, Anisimov, Lisin
Byers, Boyle, Brashear

what's better in peoples eyes?
last year by far

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08-04-2009, 06:26 PM
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Hardly.

The team is improved from last season, at least on paper.

The player, per his right, requested arbitration.

The team, per their right, walked away. He did not fit their salary capped payroll.

Everything went exactly as the system dictates.

And the dimestore accountants and GMs now criticize....For they surely had a better plan.
Do your personnel scouting and not trade for Zherdev in the first place?

The whole thing was a mistake. I also don't see how a team can let their leading scorer (who was only 25) go for nothing either.

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08-04-2009, 06:55 PM
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Do your personnel scouting and not trade for Zherdev in the first place?

The whole thing was a mistake. I also don't see how a team can let their leading scorer (who was only 25) go for nothing either.
Zherdev was one year away from being a group III. He wasn't going to be a Ranger next summer.

Why didn't other teams step up and attempt to acquire Zherdev in a trade? Sather reportedly spent months trying to trade Zherdev with no takers.

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08-04-2009, 06:57 PM
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Zherdev was one year away from being a group III. He wasn't going to be a Ranger next summer.

Why didn't other teams step up and attempt to acquire Zherdev in a trade? Sather reportedly spent months trying to trade Zherdev with no takers.
I assumed the latter to be true. It just strikes me as odd, I would say. Then again, Zherdev seems to be a special case

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08-04-2009, 07:00 PM
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last year by far
To be fair here's the offensive juggernaut the Rangers iced up until the trade deadline.


Naslund Gomez Cally

Dawes/Voros Dubi Zherdev

Korp Drury Prucha/Fritsche

Shoe Betts Orr

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Good riddance. You don't win cups with players like Zherdev. Hopefully he goes the the KHL.

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I really believed Sather would resign him, now the rangers lose there most talented player and I guess Kotalik is his replacement? ...lol
No Gaborik replaces Gomez. Upgrade. Kotalik replaced Naslund. Upgrade. Lisin is better at 850k than Zherdev at 3.9 yes? Tell me what Lou has done except sign scrub Europeans and 5'5" goaltenders.

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Frolov Kopitar Zherdev
Smyth Stoll Williams
Simmonds Zues Brown

Solid, top 2 lines and a smash mouth 3rd with tons of potential to score, I could see it working.
I'm no Kings fan, but something about this just looks wrong to me.

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08-04-2009, 07:08 PM
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lets look at it. Ended yr with

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Antropov, Dubinsky, Callahan
Avery, Drury, Korpikoski
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr

Now have

Higgins, Dubinsky, Gaborik
Kotalik, Drury, Callahan
Avery, Anisimov, Lisin
Byers, Boyle, Brashear

what's better in peoples eyes?
Dubinsky is your #1 center?
really there isn't any improvement if anything it's a downgrade, the defence could use some help too
that lineup isn't a playoff team imo

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08-04-2009, 07:13 PM
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No Gaborik replaces Gomez. Upgrade. Kotalik replaced Naslund. Upgrade. Lisin is better at 850k than Zherdev at 3.9 yes? Tell me what Lou has done except sign scrub Europeans and 5'5" goaltenders.
oh I had no Idea Gaborik played center

Kotalik is better then Naslund....

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08-04-2009, 07:18 PM
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oh I had no Idea Gaborik played center

Kotalik is better then Naslund....
Dubinsky is more than capable. It was just a year ago most of HF even most Devils fans thought Dubinsky > Zajac. And Gaborik when healthy is a gamebreaker. Is Gomez a gamebreaking center? I love how flip-flop Devil fans are. 1st Gomez is overrated 2nd liner now he's a legit #1. Do you know where the Rangers powerplay was? Neither did they. Kotalik wouldve had the most PP points on the Rangers with 21 points on PP. And yes I believe a 30 year old Kotalik > 36 year old Naslund.

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lets look at it. Ended yr with

Naslund, Gomez, Zherdev
Antropov, Dubinsky, Callahan
Avery, Drury, Korpikoski
Sjostrom, Betts, Orr

Now have

Higgins, Dubinsky, Gaborik
Kotalik, Drury, Callahan
Avery, Anisimov, Lisin
Byers, Boyle, Brashear

what's better in peoples eyes?
What's their roster going to look like after Gabby gets hurt?

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Dubinsky is more than capable. It was just a year ago most of HF even most Devils fans thought Dubinsky > Zajac. And Gaborik when healthy is a gamebreaker. Is Gomez a gamebreaking center? I love how flip-flop Devil fans are. 1st Gomez is overrated 2nd liner now he's a legit #1. Do you know where the Rangers powerplay was? Neither did they. Kotalik wouldve had the most PP points on the Rangers with 21 points on PP. And yes I believe a 30 year old Kotalik > 36 year old Naslund.
Your powerplay sucks because you don't have anyone capable of running it. Roszival is an offense defenseman who sucks at it. He'd be a great number 2 guy, same with Redden, but neither of them can run the pp. None of the forwards can run it either.

Gaborik might be able too. If not, then you'll need a defenseman who can.

The Rangers lack someone to run it. In honesty I thought Staal would be good at both ends, but it seems he'll just be good defensively and ok offensively. Though, he's still young and can easily change that.

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