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08-05-2009, 02:34 PM
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In addition, its also very easy to simply scratch Hordichuk if we are playing a soft team. Playing him 40-55 games won't hurt the team financially or on the ice, imo.
This would be the way I would handle him this upcoming season.

I don't see the need for dressing both Hordichuk & Rypien the same game (though I know that's what the coach will do) - with the exception of an opponent like the Hawks.

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08-05-2009, 02:36 PM
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LOL @ those who think Hansen is an enforcer and think that we don't really need one anyway.

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LOL @ those who think Hansen is an enforcer and think that we don't really need one anyway.
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08-05-2009, 02:41 PM
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LOL @ those who think Hansen is an enforcer and think that we don't really need one anyway.
I believe we dont need Hordichuk. When Buffy was crashing Luongo in that Hawks series, it was SOB who finally took action. Hordichuk did **** all that series...

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08-05-2009, 02:47 PM
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This would be the way I would handle him this upcoming season.

I don't see the need for dressing both Hordichuk & Rypien the same game (though I know that's what the coach will do) - with the exception of an opponent like the Hawks.
Calgary
Edmonton
Anaheim
Dallas
Kings
Blues
Maple Leafs
Flyers
Bruins
Predators (depends on them dressing Tootoo)

Are all teams I would ice both Rypien and Hordichuk. Also depends on the kind of team Colorado will be icing. I can see them icing a few tougher players to facilitate the lack of talent.

You can do the math and count the number of games that is.

The rest we can probably split Rypien and Hordichuk's games.

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08-05-2009, 02:49 PM
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I believe we dont need Hordichuk. When Buffy was crashing Luongo in that Hawks series, it was SOB who finally took action. Hordichuk did **** all that series...
Hordichuk, as a fourth liner playing limited minutes, cannot- in the playoffs, instigate a fight, or he will be penalized the extra minutes.

Hordichuk has to pick his spots. The team needed to step up in front of Luongo but it simply wasn't done.

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08-05-2009, 02:51 PM
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Hordichuk, as a fourth liner playing limited minutes, cannot- in the playoffs, instigate a fight, or he will be penalized the extra minutes.

Hordichuk has to pick his spots. The team needed to step up in front of Luongo but it simply wasn't done.
A guy like Bernier, despite having a decent playoffs, didn't do enough in his regular minutes physically to deter stuff. Hordichuk has no business fighting in the playoffs, however the regulars have to play more aggressively.

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08-05-2009, 02:53 PM
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Does this make him UFA next summer?

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08-05-2009, 02:59 PM
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Does this make him UFA next summer?
No; he will still be RFA.

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I believe we dont need Hordichuk. When Buffy was crashing Luongo in that Hawks series, it was SOB who finally took action. Hordichuk did **** all that series...
We do have 82 games that are played before the playoffs.

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Confirmed by Hansen himself. 2 way - one year

http://www.dr.dk/Sporten/Ishockey/2009/08/05/185734.htm

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Hope Hansen has fun in Manitoba!

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08-05-2009, 03:13 PM
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Hope Hansen has fun in Manitoba!
Until he doesn't clear waivers.

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08-05-2009, 03:17 PM
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Until he doesn't clear waivers.
Why would a player on a 2-way deal have to clear waivers?

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Why would a player on a 2-way deal have to clear waivers?
Because waivers have to do with pro experience, not 1-way/2-way deals.

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08-05-2009, 03:20 PM
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Because waivers have to do with pro experience, not 1-way/2-way deals.
I think you may be wrong on that one.

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08-05-2009, 03:23 PM
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I think you may be wrong on that one.
no, you're wrong on that one... one of the common misconceptions here is that waiver eligibility is tied to 1 or 2-way contracts... it's not... the *only* thing a 2-way deal signifies is a different salary in the minors ... as pitseleh brought up earlier, Hansen is no waiver eligible due to his pro experience, number of years from signing his first deal and his age - so he would have to pass through waivers regardless.

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I think you may be wrong on that one.
From Nhlscap.com:

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-- “The waiver status of a player is determined by whether he has a 1-way or 2-way contract.”
Answer: False. Whether a player has a 1-way or 2-way contract has absolutely no effect on his waiver status – it has to do with the number of years since the player signed his first NHL contract and the number of NHL games he’s played since signing.

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08-05-2009, 03:26 PM
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ok...you got me. I could care less if he gets plucked off waivers anyway.

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08-05-2009, 03:32 PM
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one of the common misconceptions here is that waiver eligibility is tied to 1 or 2-way contracts...
It's pretty much all EA Sports' fault

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I'm amazed how everybody has forgotten his first half of the season before he got injured. AND keep in mind he saw next to no ice time on the PP and was not far behind Raymond and Wellwood who had 17 and 19 games more to get the two and 6 points more than Hansen....

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ok...you got me. I could care less if he gets plucked off waivers anyway.
yea, who really needs a forward that was top 6 in points among all forwards in points/game for us, while being able to play a responsible 2-way game... and he was also one of our top points per minute guys on the team.

all that in his rookie season as well - where he finished in the top 20 in points per game in the league among all rookies!

but the guy is obviously useless... at his age there's no upside, and he's useless defensively, can't hit, check, and well he must be soft as well, since he's not some big NA kid!!!

talent like that is just not needed in Vancouver at all!




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08-05-2009, 03:38 PM
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yea, who really needs a forward that was top 6 in points among all forwards in points/game for us, while being able to play a responsible 2-way game... and he was also one of our top points per minute guys on the team.

all that in his rookie season as well - where he finished in the top 20 in points per game in the league among all rookies!

but the guy is obviously useless... at his age there's no upside, and he's useless defensively, can't hit, check, and well he must be soft as well, since he's not some big NA kid!!!

talent like that is just not needed in Vancouver at all!



It's the oldest retort to being wrong.
The "Oh fine, I'm wrong, I never cared about the topic anyway" defense.

Wouldn't bother debating the usefulness of Hansen. We all know to succeed in this league you need guys like Hansen to play better than he's paid.

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08-05-2009, 03:57 PM
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Hansen is not going to make the Canucks starting roster and he will never be more than an injury fill in.

I have never seen a player who cant even make his respective club, get so much sunshine blown up his behind as Hansen does around here in my life.

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