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68 VS 99 (Who Was The Better Ranger?)

View Poll Results: 68 VS 99 (Who Was The Better Ranger?)
Wayne Gretzky 15 7.98%
Jaromir Jagr 167 88.83%
They were equal 6 3.19%
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08-07-2009, 09:56 AM
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68 VS 99 (Who Was The Better Ranger?)

Which of these great players was a better RANGER in your opinion?


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Jaromir Jagr -

03/04 - 31GP, 14G-15A-29PTS
No Playoffs

05/06 - 82GP, 54G-69A-123PTS
Playoffs - 3 GP, 0G-1A-1PT

06/07 - 82GP, 30G-66A-96PTS
Playoffs - 10GP, 5G-6A-11PTS

07/08 - 82GP - 25G-46A-71PTS
Playoffs - 10GP - 5G-10A-15PTS

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Wayne Gretzky -

96/97 - 82GP - 25G-72A-97PTS
Playoffs - 15GP-10G-10A-20PTS

97/98 - 82GP - 23G-67A-90PTS
No Playoffs

98/99 - 70GP - 9G-53A-62PTS
No Playoffs


Wayne Gretzky was signed as a UFA.

Jaromir Jagr was traded to NYR by Washington for Anson Carter.

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Gretzky ended his professional career with the New York Rangers, where he played his final three seasons and helped the team reach the Eastern Conference Finals in 1997. The Rangers were defeated in the conference finals by the Philadelphia Flyers, despite Gretzky leading the Rangers in the playoffs with 10 goals and 10 assists.For the first time in his NHL career, Gretzky was not named captain, although he briefly wore the captain's 'C' in 1998 when captain Brian Leetch was injured and out of the lineup. After the 1996–97 season, Mark Messier signed a free agent contract with the Vancouver Canucks, ending the brief reunion of Messier and Gretzky after just one season. With Messier's departure from the Rangers, the spotlight was on Gretzky once again. The Rangers, however, did not return to the playoffs during the remainder of Gretzky's career.
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Prior to the 2005–06 season, the Rangers had missed the playoffs for seven consecutive seasons. Following the fire sale of the high-priced underachieving veterans that made up the team's roster, as well as the retirement of long-time captain Mark Messier, many experts picked the Rangers to be the worst team in the NHL. Jágr disagreed and promised the team would surprise a lot of people and make the Stanley Cup playoffs. He started strong during the beginning of the 2005 season and the return from the lockout of the NHL. He became only the fourth player in NHL history to score 10 or more goals in less than 10 games at the start of a season. His return to dominance helped the Rangers return to the Stanley Cup playoffs, but injuries to Jágr and others contributed to a quick Ranger exit in a first round sweep of the Broadway Blueshirts by the archnemesis New Jersey Devils.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarom%C3%ADr_J%C3%A1gr

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08-07-2009, 09:59 AM
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We went to the Eastern Conference Finals with Gretzky.

However, Jagr helped bring this organization out of the depths of humiliation almost single handed.

That with the best single season of any Ranger in history.

I have to chose Jagr.

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08-07-2009, 10:01 AM
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Jagr, if only for 2005-2006 alone.

Gretzky still had the greatest vision on the ice I've ever seen by the time he got here in the late 90's, but nearly every other facet of his game had deteriorated by then.

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08-07-2009, 10:06 AM
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Jagr was simply dominant in 05-06.

Gretz is Gretz but the scales are tilted towards Jags on this one.
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has to be jags.

05-06 jagr was the best ranger ever. i've never seen someone dominate like that

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08-07-2009, 10:07 AM
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Jagr to me as well. The supporting cast the Gretzky had in 1997 was much better than what Jagr ever had here. We were close to reaching round three with Jagr if it weren't for Marek Malik & Chris Drury.

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08-07-2009, 10:10 AM
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Messier excluded, Jaromir was the best big name acquisition in Rangers history.

Love Gretz, and his time here was fun and memorable, but what Jagr did goes well beyond the box score, and even then, Jagr rewrote all the single season records. I just hope I'm lucky enough to see another Ranger play close to Jagr's '05.

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08-07-2009, 10:11 AM
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I'm remiss to choose Jagr, but I have to. Jagr singlehandedly brought this organization from the depths of despair back to respectability.

On the same token, that PPG pace in 2004 likely cost us a shot at Ovechkin or Malkin.

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08-07-2009, 10:15 AM
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Jagr changed the culture here in 2006. It took a franchise record setting type of season to revive this franchsie.

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08-07-2009, 10:16 AM
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Gotta go with Jagr. Gretz was good for us, but Jagr's first full season was incredible.

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08-07-2009, 10:18 AM
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it was Jagr. The Rangers went to the Conference Finals with a better team than those on which Jagr played. Jagr had the ability to carry the team, and he did - Gretz did not at that point in his career.

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lol. didnt think this would be as lopsided as it is.

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08-07-2009, 10:25 AM
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jeez, i'm the only one that voted for 'The Great One' ? well fine then.

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08-07-2009, 10:32 AM
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jeez, i'm the only one that voted for 'The Great One' ? well fine then.
Perhaps you would care to elaborate on why you chose Gretzky?

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08-07-2009, 10:35 AM
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I went with equal, to be honest Gretzky took us further into the playoffs, but in jagr's defense i believe he had less to work with and returned us to respectability...

Its a wash because gretzky helped keep us respectable, and jagr brought us back, the years between were just garbage and I hate that leetch had to play them...

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08-07-2009, 10:45 AM
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Messier was the top mercenary brought in. Jagr is the 2nd best followed closely by Lowe. Graves was not a mercenary because he had not established himself in the NHL. He did play on the line with Murphy and gelinas in 1990.

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I went with equal, to be honest Gretzky took us further into the playoffs, but in jagr's defense i believe he had less to work with and returned us to respectability...

Its a wash because gretzky helped keep us respectable, and jagr brought us back, the years between were just garbage and I hate that leetch had to play them...
I have to take exception to this statement. Gretzky's final 2 years with the Rangers/as a player were the flush that took this franchise down the toilet.

Not saying it was his fault...I feel terrible that two all-timers like Gretzky and Leetch had to play with such a garbage filled roster, but those final 2 years were far from respectable for the franchise.

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Gretzky also had Mark Messier, Brian Leetch, Mike Richter, Adam Graves, Luc Robitaille, among others on his team. Four HOFers with Richter who has the potential to be there as well.

Jagr had a rookie Henrik Lundqvist, Nylander who was a good, but never a great player, Straka (same) and Petr Prucha?

I mean it's not even close.

If you want to look at the best team that they had,

Jagr, Shanahan, Lundqvist, Nylander, Straka, and...

Two, maybe when all is said and done you'll have three HOFers and that's if Lundqvist ends up having a phenomenal career.

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Oh wow. I knew Jagr would take it, but not by this much. Incredible.

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68, and I don't think it's that close.

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I don't remember many people respecting the Rangers the minute Messier bolted for Vancouver.

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That first Post lockout season was one of the best single seasons I've ever seen by a player. Gotta go Jagr. He brought the team out of NHL Purgatory all by himself basically.

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jagr was robbed of the hart in 2005-2006. He was your team that year.


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Wow 52-2! and I'm part of the avalanche. Gretzky was a great player but towards the end of his career he couldn't carry the team.

Jagr turned me into a believer again. I still wish we hadn't signed Redden and brought him back last year. A great player and a great leader and he's got a great sense of humor too.

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Are you kidding me? No question JAGS!

I have never seen a player single handedly DOMINATE and carry a team on his back all the way to the playoffs and on.

Jagr was a perfect fit for NY and took on the leadership role immediately! He was expected to perform and DID.

I truly miss watching him night after night.

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