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08-16-2009, 09:25 AM
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IMO we get Brad Richards now, Dubi being the centerpiece
There's not enough cap space to make such a deal. I'm figuring the only moves left are signing a bottom pairing D-man and signing Dubinsky to a one-year deal, and then long-term come January 1.

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08-16-2009, 09:26 AM
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Prospal eats up $1.1 million in cap space and considering Dubinsky is unsigned,how people still keep pushing the Heatley or Richards stuff is insane. Look at those cap numbers,how are the Rangers fitting in those salaries into their cap without a big salary going back and it still wouldn't be enough?
Exactly...this signing should put to rest any more Heatley or Richards talk...even TRYING to put Rozsival in any deal does not create enough space.

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08-16-2009, 09:28 AM
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I don't think you'll see Dubinsky sign long term on January 1st if he goes for only a 1 year deal now.

I think it's Dubinsky that's hesitant to sign long term, not the Rangers. The value Dubinsky could get on a 2-3 year deal right now is probably between $2-3 million. If he has a breakout year, which I think is a real possibility, he's looking at $4+ million a year. There's really little reason for Dubinsky to sign long term now, unless he thinks he's not going to improve.

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08-16-2009, 09:38 AM
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i dont see dubinsky signing long term in january either. he will sign long term next off season or go to arbitration

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Eh... but it's one year, one mil.


He's a decent passer, no?

He should be on the second line with Drury and Kotalik.

I've been saying for weeks now that Kotalik needs someone on the line that can pass, Prospal should be the guy.

Higgins - Dubinsky - Gaborik
Prospal - Drury - Kotalik
Lisin - Anisimov - Callahan
Avery - Boyle - Brashear

I would still like them to pickup Bouillon to pair up with Gilroy.

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08-16-2009, 09:48 AM
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I've had a chance to see him with Tampa. Good signing.

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08-16-2009, 10:03 AM
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I find no fault with this deal....

Doesnt Prospal play center sometimes

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08-16-2009, 10:08 AM
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He doesn't have to...I tend to think Gaborik's speed is useful for springing him on breakaways, not playing two on one's with him and another teammate. But when in the offensive zone, a player who can hang onto the puck is useful, which is presumably why they brought in Prospal.

edit: he also played center to St. Louis before, who is obviously also a speedy player

But yeah, not really a big fan of how it blocks some players...makes the Rangers better this year but what about years to come when he's gone and some of these younger players like Anisimov or Lisin could have been getting valuable icetime? And does it make the Rangers a contender? I don't think so...so I'm not sure the long term value in it

I guess we'll see how it shakes out...he could put up a nice number of points if he plays with Gaborik. He's probably still capable of 70 points with an elite player like Gaborik, which would boost the Rangers offense significantly.

Its just a one year deal. He is not blocking anyone. Lisin gets bumped up in the season when an injury occurs.

Byers...oh well, our future 4th liner stays in the minors, thats the least thing im worried about

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Byers...oh well, our future 4th liner stays in the minors, thats the least thing im worried about
Byers also missed almost the entire AHL season last year due to an injury. Starting him off in Hartford may be a good thing.

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08-16-2009, 10:17 AM
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here are my lines to start with:
avery-dubinsky-gaborik
higgins-prospal-callahan
lisin-drury-kotalik
boyle-anisimov-brashear
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staal-rozsival
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if you wanted too you could swap callahan and lisin


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08-16-2009, 10:21 AM
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Well, I believe Brooks uses his paper space to push his agenda.

The fact he was the only legitimate media source suggesting Richards to the Rangers, in addition to the Dallas writer denying the report makes me believe Brooks wants Richards.
Reporting has now become an agenda?

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The Rangers have held conversations with Dallas regarding Brad Richards, who has two years remaining on a contract carrying an annual $7.8M cap hit, and with San Jose concerning Patrick Marleau, who has one year to go at $6.3M on his deal, but there's no indication at this time that either player is on his way to Broadway.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07072009...dev_177951.htm

Suggesting? If Sather has spoken to Nieuwendyk about Richards,that's suggesting?

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There is, however, widespread belief that Dallas owner Tom Hicks' financial problems -- his team canceled prospects camp in order to save money -- will force the Stars to cut payroll . . . with the cutting to feature former Tampa Bay Conn Smythe winning first-line center Brad Richards, who has two years at $7.8 million remaining on his deal.

It would take a newer new math to figure out how the Rangers could accommodate Richards under the cap, but there is no doubt that Sather will try if Dallas has to move him.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07192009...049.htm?page=0

Brooks is the only hockey writer in NY worth his salt. The other guys are linking their blogs to Larry's articles. That's sad for them. He has written about the Rangers talking to Dallas about Richards but he has also written the deal is not close to happening.

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Sweet deal by Sather. Yeah he's a bit old, but the guy has averaged 50+ points almost every season in the NHL. He also brings some decent veteran experience.

Prospal should be good insurance if one of the young players fails to meet expectations

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Pardon my ignorance but if he's as good as everyone is talking about... why did Tampa buy him out?

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Reporting has now become an agenda?



http://www.nypost.com/seven/07072009...dev_177951.htm

Suggesting? If Sather has spoken to Nieuwendyk about Richards,that's suggesting?



http://www.nypost.com/seven/07192009...049.htm?page=0

Brooks is the only hockey writer in NY worth his salt. The other guys are linking their blogs to Larry's articles. That's sad for them. He has written about the Rangers talking to Dallas about Richards but he has also written the deal is not close to happening.
When Brooks keeps his OPINIONS to himself and just REPORTS the NEWS, he is fine.

The problem with this guy is that 99% of his "reporting" is nonsensical, negative, pessimistic drivel.

You know why THN has nothing but negative crap to say about the Rangers, except to pick them at the top of the Conference the last couple of seasons? Because they have BROOKS as their Rangers correspondent. And in EVERY issue's organizational reports, he has NOTHING but NEGATIVE DRIVEL to spew into the 2 short paragraph report. EVERY issue.

I like UNBIASED, straightforward REPORTING.

If i want to hear OPINIONS i will come here to the HF boards.

When he sticks to the NEWS he is very good.

But the problem is he let's his opinions worm their way into his reports. And that is a major turn off.


Example:

NEWS: "The Rangers sign scoring winger Marian Gaborik"
Brooks: "OMFG the Rangers wasted 7 million on an injured Gaborik, ****ing Sather eat my balls!"


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Pardon my ignorance but if he's as good as everyone is talking about... why did Tampa buy him out?
Its Tampa bay..recently one of the worst run organizations in the league. Thats probably why.

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Pardon my ignorance but if he's as good as everyone is talking about... why did Tampa buy him out?
If there's one thing that the last year has shown, it should be that TB has no clue what they're doing down there. It's pretty bad when a Rangers fan feels sorry for their fans over TB's management.

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When Brooks keeps his OPINIONS to himself and just REPORTS the NEWS, he is fine.

The problem with this guy is that 99% of his "reporting" is nonsensical, negative, pessimistic drivel.

You know why THN has nothing but negative crap to say about the Rangers, except to pick them at the top of the Conference the last couple of seasons? Because they have BROOKS as their Rangers correspondent. And in EVERY issue's organizational reports, he has NOTHING but NEGATIVE DRIVEL to spew into the 2 short paragraph report. EVERY issue.

I LOATHE Brooks.

I like UNBIASED, straightforward REPORTING.

If i want to hear OPINIONS i will come here to the HF boards.
I was going to respond, but this quote summarizes my feeling perfectly. Reading Brooks for years has left such a sour taste in my mouth that I am admittedly biased against anything he writes.

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They wanted cap space. He was making between $3 and $4 mill per year with them and they just wanted to save themselves cap space to sign other players, etc.

They're saving like $2.3 mill this year by buying him out

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Great signing, I thought a few weeks ago we would pay $2.0M and I considered that a bargain so this contract imo is more then fair.

I don't think it's Lisen that will be bumped from the top 9, I think Anismov is going to have a real battle to make the team out of camp. I do think Anismov will be on the team at some point this season for good but I doubt it's to start the season. I hope I'm wrong because he is one of my favorite prospects to watch.

Now we just need a depth defenseman.....I can't wait for camp to start....

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Pardon my ignorance but if he's as good as everyone is talking about... why did Tampa buy him out?
Tampa is run by a bunch of clowns.

Now just sign Bouillon, re-sign Duby and we're good to go.

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Wow, Prospal has really moved around a lot. From Flyers, to Sens, to Panthers, to Lightning, to Ducks, back to Lightning, back to Flyers, back to Lightning, and now to Rangers.

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Looking at the list, it looks like Callahan would be traded.
  • Prospal, Gabby, Higgins, Kot and Brash were all just acquired.
  • Avery can't be traded.
  • The centers are needed.
  • Lisin doesn't have a great deal of value.

The only person with value who wasn't just acquired is Callahan. I mean, it's possible they will trade Higgins who was traded for instead of signed, but it may be that Cally for Heatley is coming.


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OK - thanx, saw it just now after scrolling. So we have almost 2 million in space with a 22 man squad then?

Prospal/Dubinsky/Gaborik
Higgins/Drury/Kotalik
Avery/Anisimov/Callahan
Brashear/Boyle/Lisin

Arnasson (or replace with Byers/Ambuhl/Rissmiller/Voros/PAP/Grachev...)

Redden - Roszival
Staal - Girardi
Gilroy - Sauer

Heikannen (with many other possibilities here)

Hank
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here are my lines to start with:
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if you wanted too you could swap callahan and lisin

Are you kidding? Anisimov on the bottom line? You can't really be serious...

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8 potential players over 20 goals... you're missing Prospal now!
I don't think it will happen, but it's not completely impossible that Anisimov puts 20 pucks in the net. He had almost twice that many in the AHL, so he definitely has a knack for scoring. It's not impossible to go from 37 in the AHL to 20 in the NHL next year.

So I'd say we have 9 guys who can score 20 goals. That said, there just isn't the ice time for all of them to score that much.

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