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08-24-2009, 07:31 PM
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but Calgary add jay bouwmeester and Edmonton has add Nikolai khabibulin while we add Mathieu Schnedier to counter that? This is absolutely insane!

Its true that some of our younger player might able to step up, but remember so does the other team's young player.
Edmonton lost Roloson so it's a little bit of a move up but not really.

Calgary lost Cammalleri and Bertuzzi who is garbage but was a big body who produced. They add help on their back end but lose scoring, so kind of a move sideways.

Vancouver loses Ohlund and Pyatt and adds Samuelsson and another d man if Schneider I think we have upgraded with 2 solid guys who have won cups. Call me crazy but I like what we did more. Although I loved those 2 cities with Keenan and Mac T, you just knew they were never going to get anywhere. So they have fixed their coaching staffs.

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even last year without luongo for 1/4 of the season the canucks won the division.

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Great team guy and fun to watch.

His poise on the PP is incredible and always seems to do the right thing with the man advantage. Adding him was a solid move by Gillis.

I do hope this is true, because i really like Couver.

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08-24-2009, 07:35 PM
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Schneider was playing upwards of 21 minutes for Atlanta and averaged more than 20 minutes a game in Montreal last year. He also had 8 games last year where he played over 25 minutes. So he still has something left in the tank. He would be a great addition if he could play around 18 minutes a game and will probably be more durable when he's not being over worked. I think he really fits our needs and should come pretty cheap.
Agreed.

He was still basically playing top-4 minutes last season for both Atlanta and Montreal, 21 minutes/game for both teams. And did fine in that role.

So you'd certainly think he'd perform pretty well in 18-19 minutes/game as the #5 defender here. Should add a fair bit to the transition game, and to the PP as well. Will be interesting to see how the PP point time is divided between Schneider/Salo/Bieksa/Edler.

One of my biggest problems with this team last year was the lack of playoff experience/finals appearances/Cup rings. And it showed in the Chicago series, when we didn't seem to know how to win. Adding veteran guys with Cup rings like Schneider and Samuelsson was something this team *sorely* needed.

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As an interesting trivia note, Schneider would usurp Eric Weinrich for the distinction of the last player born in the 1960s to suit up for the Canucks. The first was Brent Ashton in 1979-80.

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08-24-2009, 07:40 PM
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even last year without luongo for 1/4 of the season the canucks won the division.
Come on bud. 3,700+ posts and I have yet to see any yet that are more than a sentence long.

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I'd take Bouwmeester over Salo any day.
I would have before (like a year ago) but after seeing how uncomfortable he looked in his Calgary interviews, i'm curious as to how he's going to play in a hardcore environment.

And I'm basing this on a straight 1 year thing. Not long term, in which case I'd take Phaneuf.

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ugh, I don't like his Helmet style. It would be a bad signing.

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I'd take Bouwmeester over Salo any day.
Bouwmeester @ 6.68

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Salo @ 3.5


just sayin'

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mazel tov! decent stop gap for a year. we probably need another dman after this but if sundin is not going to retire, i'd go after him first

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I would love a 1 year deal for Schneider and then making a move to sign Hamhuis next summer, if Nashville doesn't get around to it. With their d-pipeline, they just not might.

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Find it hard to believe a team would just pass up Hamhuis. It's almost as delusional as Toronto fans thinking they had free pickings at Rick Nash.

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Bouwmeester @ 6.68

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Salo @ 3.5


just sayin'
No you're right....I mean afterall cap space is...precious.....MY PRECIOUS.......

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Pretty decent replacement for Ohlund, at this stage, all things considered. They still need an upgrade, though.

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Bouwmeester @ 6.68

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Salo @ 3.5


just sayin'
Bouwmeester @ 82 games

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Salo @ 60 games

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Exactly what the hockey team needs.

Do I wish he wasn't so injury prone? yes. But in our current situation we can't be picky. I'd rather save our young assets and sign Schneider. Look at what he did for the Habs!!!! he runs the powerplay very well.

Lock this up Gillis!

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Good for the PP but our D is still too slow. Hopefully Gillis has more in the works.

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Agreed.

He was still basically playing top-4 minutes last season for both Atlanta and Montreal, 21 minutes/game for both teams. And did fine in that role.

So you'd certainly think he'd perform pretty well in 18-19 minutes/game as the #5 defender here. Should add a fair bit to the transition game, and to the PP as well. Will be interesting to see how the PP point time is divided between Schneider/Salo/Bieksa/Edler.

One of my biggest problems with this team last year was the lack of playoff experience/finals appearances/Cup rings. And it showed in the Chicago series, when we didn't seem to know how to win. Adding veteran guys with Cup rings like Schneider and Samuelsson was something this team *sorely* needed.

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As an interesting trivia note, Schneider would usurp Eric Weinrich for the distinction of the last player born in the 1960s to suit up for the Canucks. The first was Brent Ashton in 1979-80.
I'd put Schneider and Edler on the first unit and Bieksa and Salo on the second unit. Bieksa-Salo worked out pretty well as our first unit last season but I feel they will both suddenly be pushed to the second unit because Schneider is obviously the PP specialist here and Edler I think will finally develop into our #1 this season.

PP1:

D.Sedin-H.Sedin-Bernier

Schneider-Edler

PP2:

Wellwood-Kesler-Demitra

Bieksa-Salo

That still leaves guys like Samuelsson, Raymond, and Hodgson without a spot on either PP...... What a concept depth is.

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08-24-2009, 08:19 PM
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I would have before (like a year ago) but after seeing how uncomfortable he looked in his Calgary interviews, i'm curious as to how he's going to play in a hardcore environment.

And I'm basing this on a straight 1 year thing. Not long term, in which case I'd take Phaneuf.
haha yeah I am so glad we didn't get Boumeester, he is a huge wing nut. "Uh duh uhhhhh Calgary just ahhhhh seemed ahhhhh like ahhhhh right fit or whatever ahhhh".

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Good for the PP but our D is still too slow. Hopefully Gillis has more in the works.
This will be it.

Schneider replaces Ohlund.

Gillis sounded quite high on Rome and gave him a one-way deal, and he replaces Davison as the #7 guy.

Our defense is set as some combination of :

Bieksa-Mitchell
Edler-Salo
Schneider-O'Brien
Rome

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There's no way we gave Rome a one-way deal unless we expected he'd be the frontrunner for the #7 spot.

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08-24-2009, 08:25 PM
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I suppose that wouldn't be terrible. It's not like its that hard to get a better number 7 later on anyway. Someone will be available on waivers.

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This will be it.

Schneider replaces Ohlund.

Gillis sounded quite high on Rome and gave him a one-way deal, and he replaces Davison as the #7 guy.

Our defense is set as some combination of :

Bieksa-Mitchell
Edler-Salo
Schneider-O'Brien
Rome

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There's no way we gave Rome a one-way deal unless we expected he'd be the frontrunner for the #7 spot.
That would be disappointing. One key injury and we're pushed to the brink. Like teams in the past, this one needs more balance.

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There's no way we gave Rome a one-way deal unless we expected he'd be the frontrunner for the #7 spot.
Nycholat was also given a one way contract. I don't think it makes much of a difference other than the fact that they are guaranteed the terms of the contract regardless. I don't think it's something management worries about too much and it gives the players more incentive to sign here.

On a side note, the fact that Hansen's contract is a two way is a little odd. I gotta side with Henrik when I say he deserved a one way.

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This will be it.

Schneider replaces Ohlund.

Gillis sounded quite high on Rome and gave him a one-way deal, and he replaces Davison as the #7 guy.

There's no way we gave Rome a one-way deal unless we expected he'd be the frontrunner for the #7 spot.
Lawrence Nycholat was also signed to a one-way deal.

Edit: Beaten by Bourdon.

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Good for the PP but our D is still too slow. Hopefully Gillis has more in the works.
Is Schneider any slower then Ohlund though? I doubt it. At any rate it's most likely roughly a lateral move in the foot-speed department. Yah, we could use an improvement in that area for sure, but it looks like the defense is just going to have to tighten up - they've done it before. Schneider would give us an improvement in the puck-carrying and transition portion of the game on top of a booming slapshot.

The place we'll miss Ohlund the most is definitely on the PK. He rode shotgun PK duty along with Mitchell last year, and was fourth on the Canucks in shorthanded ice-time after...you guessed it: Mitchell, Kesler, and Burrows.

Edler was sheltered on the PK last year with Salo, Mitchell, and Ohlund shouldering a lot of the short-handed duty.

We'll need Edler, Bieksa, and to a lesser extent O'Brien to step up and cover those minutes.

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This will be it.

Schneider replaces Ohlund.

Gillis sounded quite high on Rome and gave him a one-way deal, and he replaces Davison as the #7 guy.

Our defense is set as some combination of :

Bieksa-Mitchell
Edler-Salo
Schneider-O'Brien
Rome

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There's no way we gave Rome a one-way deal unless we expected he'd be the frontrunner for the #7 spot.
That isn't any better than the D core we had last year. I think he's not done and will be upset if he is.

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