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08-26-2009, 04:41 PM
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Kovalev. Say what you want about his drive, but the guy is probably the best PP forward in the league when he's on.
So Kovalev's 26 goals (11 PP) compared to D Sedin's 31 goals (9 PP) makes him more of a Heatley- or Kovalchuk-class sniper than Daniel?

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08-26-2009, 05:39 PM
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So Kovalev's 26 goals (11 PP) compared to D Sedin's 31 goals (9 PP) makes him more of a Heatley- or Kovalchuk-class sniper than Daniel?


I dunno why people are making that point. The Canucks have a ton of playmakers, and at least 4-5 guys who can play the point on the PP - what we lacked last year was shooters (especially when Salo was injured) outside of Edler.

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Since the reported price tag is so low, is it that big of a deal that he might only play 50-60 games?

As long as there aren't any major health problems that will keep him out for the entire season, a few nagging problems kind of go with the territory.

If you're doing a risk / benefit assessment, even with all the injuries, he's been averaging about 40 points a season since he was 35. He's clearly lost a step, but it's not like every player in the league is a Patrick Kane. Defensively he should be more than adequate against most of the lines in the Western Conference. Indeed, his injury history might be due to being overplayed because he still is able to contribute far more than just on the PP.

The Canucks have the luxury of having 5 defenceman ahead of him on the depth chart. The last 3 teams which Schneider has played on did not have that.

Here's how I see the ice time break down:
Bieksa: 23 mins
Mitchell: 23 mins
Edler :23 mins
Salo: 20 mins
O'Brien: 17 mins
Schneider: 15 mins

I guess the disappointment is that the Canucks probably need someone who can take some of the shutdown role pressure off of Mitchell and Salo, and they won't get that with Schneider. But the likelihood of getting that was pretty minute anyhow...

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08-26-2009, 05:48 PM
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I dunno why people are making that point. The Canucks have a ton of playmakers, and at least 4-5 guys who can play the point on the PP - what we lacked last year was shooters (especially when Salo was injured) outside of Edler.
Yup, many here are calling Bieksa a shooter as well. He does have a good shot, but it's a wrist shot, and he tends to use it when he's sneaking in off the point and converting a Sedin cross ice pass.

What the Canucks could use is a first pass guy to break out of the zone. That helps more 5-on-5 though.

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Any word on how much he is going to cost us?

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Any word on how much he is going to cost us?
Reportedly it's a one year deal worth around 1.5 million dollars

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08-26-2009, 07:35 PM
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Awesome, but I still think that we could use another defenceman....if Salo goes down (which is quite possible) our defence looks a bit shaky.

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08-26-2009, 08:04 PM
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Are there really all that many "durable" defensemen in the league, especially post-obstruction crackdown?
Nope. But sadly, one Jay Bouwmeester immediately comes to mind.

...not that I mean to bring him up.

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08-26-2009, 08:26 PM
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Awesome, but I still think that we could use another defenceman....if Salo goes down (which is quite possible) our defence looks a bit shaky.
not exactly a shutdown guy (but not bad), and certainly not AV's favourite player, but any chance of bringing ossi back at the minimum as the 7th man? haven't heard much about his situation all summer.

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08-26-2009, 08:32 PM
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not exactly a shutdown guy (but not bad), and certainly not AV's favourite player, but any chance of bringing ossi back at the minimum as the 7th man? haven't heard much about his situation all summer.
He signed with a KHL team.

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So anyone know when this physical is supposed to happen?

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How long does a physical usually take?

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How long does a physical usually take?
Depends. If it is just a medical records review it can be fairly quick.

If he is going to be seeing a specialist or specialists and go through MRI's etc., it can be a little longer.

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Habs are the living proof that a) you need at least 2, preferably 3 excellent PP dmen and b) Schneider is going to help Canucks PP - a lot.

I don't agree that Schneider is injury prone - I've followed his career for the past 20 years and he gets injuries here and there but usually not serious - not like Salo at all who gets injured and he's out 20 games.

Anyway, who cares if a 40 year old Dman on a 1.5M contract misses 15-20 games if he's healthy when it counts?

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08-27-2009, 01:32 AM
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How long does a physical usually take?
The determining factors are usually how relaxed you are and the size of the doctor's fingers.

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The determining factors are usually how relaxed you are and the size of the doctor's fingers.
I was wondering if anyone was going to make that joke.

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I was wondering if anyone was going to make that joke.
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Awesome, but I still think that we could use another defenceman....if Salo goes down (which is quite possible) our defence looks a bit shaky.
I think with the unproven (unseen) talent Gillis has brought in (such as Rome). I bet he's hoping one of those players can fill in a 7th man spot nicely

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I'd love to see Martin Skoula in a #7 role, but I don't think he'd want to be in that role.

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08-27-2009, 02:57 AM
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Since the reported price tag is so low, is it that big of a deal that he might only play 50-60 games?

As long as there aren't any major health problems that will keep him out for the entire season, a few nagging problems kind of go with the territory.

If you're doing a risk / benefit assessment, even with all the injuries, he's been averaging about 40 points a season since he was 35. He's clearly lost a step, but it's not like every player in the league is a Patrick Kane. Defensively he should be more than adequate against most of the lines in the Western Conference. Indeed, his injury history might be due to being overplayed because he still is able to contribute far more than just on the PP.

The Canucks have the luxury of having 5 defenceman ahead of him on the depth chart. The last 3 teams which Schneider has played on did not have that.

Here's how I see the ice time break down:
Bieksa: 23 mins
Mitchell: 23 mins
Edler :23 mins
Salo: 20 mins
O'Brien: 17 mins
Schneider: 15 mins

I guess the disappointment is that the Canucks probably need someone who can take some of the shutdown role pressure off of Mitchell and Salo, and they won't get that with Schneider. But the likelihood of getting that was pretty minute anyhow...
When Salo is healthy hes going to to get more playing time than any other D-man on this team.

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08-27-2009, 06:19 AM
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Habs are the living proof that a) you need at least 2, preferably 3 excellent PP dmen and b) Schneider is going to help Canucks PP - a lot.

I don't agree that Schneider is injury prone - I've followed his career for the past 20 years and he gets injuries here and there but usually not serious - not like Salo at all who gets injured and he's out 20 games.

Anyway, who cares if a 40 year old Dman on a 1.5M contract misses 15-20 games if he's healthy when it counts?
I care. What if he gets injured during playoffs?

Obviously given his age, the injury factor has to kick in. Remember, he's a year older than he was last season... it's definitely a risk you take when acquiring older players.

But like I said, if it's $1.5 million, then I'm not complaining too much... but this organization really has to get acquire some quality defensive prospects.

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When Salo is healthy hes going to to get more playing time than any other D-man on this team.
He didn't last season.

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I don't think we have to worry about catastrophic injuries with Schneider. The fact he's played over 1200 games shows that he knows how to take care of himself.

He'll probably take some games off here and there when he tweaks an old injury and play about 70 games for us when it's all said and done. Some extra depth would be nice for when he needs to sit out but I think that is something Gillis will pick up sometime during the season.

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When Salo is healthy hes going to to get more playing time than any other D-man on this team.
Doubtful

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I was wondering if anyone was going to make that joke.
You know I'll never let you down with cheesy, immature humour.

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I'd love to see Martin Skoula in a #7 role, but I don't think he'd want to be in that role.
I'd love to see Skoula in a #6 role for any othr NW team.

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