Tencer: Visnovsky's shoulder not 100% yet

[Fourier]

Originally Posted by dawgbone

In both Stoll's and Hemsky's case, there are a couple of things you can do in regards to a concussion to check for it, but the biggest thing is the answers the players give you. If they aren't honest (or if they don't feel the symptoms), your diagnosis is going to be wrong.

Football players are notorious for this.

Ask Dan Kepley about this sometime!

[I am the Liquor]

Originally Posted by hockeyaddict101

Basically Narnia the whole thread is stupid.

People are assuming with their superior medical knowledge and access to medical records that they know for a fact that the medical and training staff screwed up in countless situations and are incompetent.

In reality no one in this thread knows dick all.

Basically it is easy for me to say "Stoll shouldn't have played, he got injured 4 games later". The facts speak for themselves? As a laymen I know that in concussion situations doctor's rely on patients being honest about their symptoms? Was Stoll completely honest? Like someone pointed out earlier to defend their position, players want to play they are not always honest! Who the hell knows?

Souray should not have played, he had an injury. Well he obviously played on it in Montreal. So are their medical staff idiots too?

I can come up with questions all day but the truth of the matter is that I have no facts and can only form an opinion on a few quotes, because I would have nothing else to go on.

BUT I do know that no player, agent, or medical expert have in any way questioned the Oilers medical staff, I know that they have been picked for countless international events where they have taken care of star players and no organization has questioned their selection. That speaks volumes, because if it is so obvious that they are incompetent why would OTHER teams coaches, agents, GM's etc allow them near their players especially their stars?

So in essence I call bull@#&^ that the Oilers training staff and medical staff are so obviously incompetent!

I am not advocating that the Oiler medical staff is incompetent. I am saying that this type of injury is tricky and could go in any number of different ways. To say that you know that he is going to be back for the start of the season is what we are all hoping for, but it is hardly a sure thing.

[hockeyaddict101]

Originally Posted by I am the Liquor

I am not advocating that the Oiler medical staff is incompetent. I am saying that this type of injury is tricky and could go in any number of different ways. To say that you know that he is going to be back for the start of the season is what we are all hoping for, but it is hardly a sure thing.

That certainly wasn't meant for any one person but the "armchair" doctors that want to assume that by reading a few quotes they know more than a training staff that has years and years of experience. Back to the topic at hand.

He said the doctors said he would miss a couple of pre-season games and then he should be ok.

Obviously things could change but until we hear differently I see no reason to alter that timeline at this point.

[dawgbone]

Originally Posted by Fourier

Ask Dan Kepley about this sometime!

I saw the fifth estate thing they had on him... just crazy stuff.

[thadd]

As long as he's 100% when the season starts... that's all that matters.