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09-15-2009, 04:03 PM
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If it's going to require surgery, hopefully they take care of it sooner rather than later. It would be good to have him healthy for the World Juniors and hopefully bring him back for the AHL or even NHL playoffs.

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09-15-2009, 05:17 PM
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If I'm advising Hodgson, I'm not taking any chances of playing any games for the Canucks or even Junior until I'm 1000% sure of every possible consequence of a bulging disk followed by any kind of on-ice incident. None of this "I feel 100%", let's "try it out"...

And I'm seeing the best specialist in Canada even if it costs $20,000. His body is after all a potential $50M+ "asset" for himself, his family and the team so $20K is peanuts.

The part that's disappointing is the comment on how the injury came about - doing Deadlifts - as it could have been prevented. Someone can really hurt their back if they don't perform deadlifts properly - especially at the end of the workout when they are tired - personally I don't see ANY value in this exercise for a professional hockey player and A LOT of injury risk. The only exercise that is worse is squats - very tough on your back AND knees if done improperly (so obviously, not recommended either). A professional hockey player is not a professional weight-lifter and the strength improvement difference between using safer exercises and equipment and those that are much less so (like deadlift and squats) is marginal at best and certainly not worth the risk of injury or gradual deterioration of the affected area.

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09-15-2009, 08:03 PM
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Surgery? I love how a sore back escalates from tweaked to cut him open, all in the blink of an eye.

Anyway, Hodgson is now taking part in the regular practices and will play on the weekend.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/hav...009/story.html

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09-16-2009, 11:55 AM
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Surgery? I love how a sore back escalates from tweaked to cut him open, all in the blink of an eye.

Anyway, Hodgson is now taking part in the regular practices and will play on the weekend.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/hav...009/story.html
There are couple of red flags in that optimistic story:

Hodgson has been battling a nagging lower back injury, which he described earlier this week as a bulging disc, since early this summer.

"I'd say it's (the back) about 70 per cent better," Hodgson said. "The doctors here and the chiropractors have really treated me well and I have done a lot of work and it's worked out so far."

Hodgson said his main goal now is to improve his conditioning, which isn't where he'd like it to be because of the rest his injury required.

"Conditioning-wise, right now I'm probably around 85 or 90 per cent," he said. "I'd like to get to 95 per cent or almost 100 cent before I get on the ice."

The last thing the Canucks need to do at this point is put Hodgson into a contact game too early and have him re-injure his back.

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09-16-2009, 01:41 PM
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Surgery? I love how a sore back escalates from tweaked to cut him open, all in the blink of an eye.
You call an injury that's kept him from exercising for two months a "tweak"?

They've downplayed this from day 1 which makes you wonder how bad it really is. But by my figures being out for two months is much more than a tweak.


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09-16-2009, 01:51 PM
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You call and injury that's kept him from exercising for two months a "tweak"?

They've downplayed this from day 1 which makes you wonder how bad it really is. But by my figures being out for two months is much more than a tweak.
A bulging disc is not a tweak as you note.

Also I seem to recall the Canucks saying that it was found to be worse than first thought when Hodgson was examined by club doctors.

Often a bulging disc can be treated without surgery but if it re-occurs or progresses to a herniated disc then surgery is generally the proscribed treatment.

BTW I was checking out a web page on avoiding further injury and came a cross a tip that the Canucks should pass onto Hodgson:

Avoid wearing high-heeled shoes

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09-16-2009, 02:09 PM
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It took one game for Rypien to lose an eye... to swelling.

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/h...009/story.html

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Forward Rick Rypien and defenceman Nolan Baumgartner missed practice Tuesday with minor injuries picked up in Monday night pre-season game in Terrace.

Rypien was hurt in one of the two fights he was in.

"Ripper's eye is just shut," Vigneault said. "It should be open tomorrow so he'll be all right. Baumgartner just twisted his thumb a little bit and he should be ready tomorrow."

Vigneault said he's given up trying to persuade Rypien to be more selective about dropping his gloves.

"He's not going to change," Vigneault said. "He can take a pretty good punch and took one yesterday, but it didn't stop him from fighting a 6-6 guy (Andy Sutton) after. You just have to let him go, let him be who he is."

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09-16-2009, 02:14 PM
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I love Rypien. What a champ.

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09-16-2009, 02:17 PM
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I love Rypien. What a champ.
Being champ of the IR is not that great a way to have an NHL career.

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Being champ of the IR is not that great a way to have an NHL career.
That's going to be how Rypien keeps an NHL job. The moment he starts second guessing about dropping his gloves he'll be out of the league.

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I heard a rumour at work today that Matthew Schneider is already hurt... is this true?

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09-17-2009, 09:13 PM
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I heard a rumour at work today that Matthew Schneider is already hurt... is this true?
He's rehabbing from shoulder surgery.

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Schneider said he never considered retirement despite his arthroscopic shoulder surgery after the season, which left him with a four-to-six month recovery period. Despite the surgery, and his age, at least six teams inquired about him.
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Ca...400/story.html

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That's going to be how Rypien keeps an NHL job. The moment he starts second guessing about dropping his gloves he'll be out of the league.
His day job is on the hospital ward?

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09-18-2009, 03:48 PM
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According to Larscheid, Petrovicki is injured, out 4-6 weeks. I think he said it was something to do with his MCL.

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09-20-2009, 12:48 AM
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Shirokov is injured; sprained knee - won't be back until next weekend.

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Shirokov is injured; sprained knee - won't be back until next weekend.
ouch, that could seriously hurt his chances of staying with the big club to start the season.

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09-20-2009, 03:21 AM
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ouch, that could seriously hurt his chances of staying with the big club to start the season.
I sure hope not but it's a real possibility. I expect him to play one more of the time table is right for his return. Probably the Edmonton game to give it as much time to heal. At this point I guess his fate will be determined on how others do. Shirokov basically needs to be in the top six as I don't see him being a third or fourth line player. Four spots are basically guaranteed in our first two lines to the Sedins and Kes-Burrows. You have Demitra, Samuelsson, Shirokov and Hodgson as the best bets to fill those two spots at this point. Raymond-Wellwood-Bernier should be a lock as our third line with Johnson centering our 4th line with Rypien/Hordichuk and whoever, Hansen maybe.

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09-20-2009, 04:35 PM
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Man, we're just dropping like flies here.

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09-20-2009, 04:39 PM
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Man, we're just dropping like flies here.
Breaking News:

Salo played and was NOT injured.

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There's no question that the coaching staff would have liked to see Shirokov in the last few pre-season games, when teams are fielding mostly NHL pros.

If he only gets one more game, if it's not a really good one I think he'll be sent down to start the season. At any point in the last 10 years that probably wouldn't have been necessary, but it's where the team stands now.

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09-21-2009, 12:39 AM
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It looks like M. Schneider will be ready to go soon after the season starts and maybe even one or two preseason game:

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He wouldn’t mind getting a preseason game or two in, but it’s more realistic he’ll be ready a game or two into the season.
source: http://www.theprovince.com/sports/ho...409/story.html

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Breaking News:

Salo played and was NOT injured.
dont even say that name

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09-23-2009, 11:59 AM
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It appears that Hodgson's recovery may be longer than has been noted as he is suffering from nerve damage as result of the back injury:
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Cody Hodgson suffered nerve damage with his summer back injury, but he can still feel acutely the pinch of circumstances working against him.
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Hodgson injured his back training in July and was still not cleared for contact when the Canucksí prospect camp opened two weeks ago. Since then, Hodgson has one goal in two pre-season games but has yet to show any explosiveness or dynamism.
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ďIíd have been a lot faster, but I canít worry about that now,Ē (Hodgson) said. ďIt will take some time for that nerve to regrow. Iím not making excuses; thatís just what I have to do. Iím not looking for any slack; I want to make [the Canucks] outright. But itís up to them.Ē
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/C...610/story.html

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Schneider and Demitra to LTIR according to Ben Kuzma:
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With Mathieu Schneider and Pavol Demitra going on long-term injury reserve, the Vancouver Canucks have found wiggle room under the salary cap ceiling.

Schneider confirmed Thursday morning that offseason shoulder
surgery will keep the 40-year-old defenceman from opening the regular season on Oct. 1 at Calgary. Although he has been practising, Schneider has not been able to take contact. The news is worse for Demitra, who hasn't even healed enough to practice. Offseason shoulder surgery could keep the winger sidelined until November.

For Schneider, expected to play in the top six and anchor one of the power-play units, his decision didn't come as much of a surprise.
"I'm comfortable with it and we talked about it [Wednesday night]," said Schneider. "I've got to get the shoulder to feel strong enough to play and I'm not ready to take a hit."

A sidelined Schneider will put Shane O'Brien back into the top-six mix with Kevin Bieksa, Willie Mitchell, Sami Salo, Alex Edler and Christian Ehrhoff. A sidelined Demitra will make the second line a bigger question mark with Ryan Kesler wondering if Mikael Samuelsson will be one of his wingers and just who will fill the other void.
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Schneider and Demitra to LTIR according to Ben Kuzma:

http://communities.canada.com/thepro...y-reserve.aspx
Canucks Report on CDC has Schneider expected to miss the first ten games of the season. If everything goes as scheduled and the ten games are accurate then he will be returning October 25th against the Oilers. Although our 10th game is on the 24th against the Leafs so there's not much of a difference there. If not then our next game is 27th against the Wings. All games are in Vancouver so realistically he can jump into the lineup whenever he's ready and after the minimum length for LTIR.

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