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09-16-2009, 07:22 AM
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Would you make this trade?

Tyutin, Sestito, and Holden for Edler and a Third?

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09-16-2009, 07:30 AM
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Not a chance. Tyutin is our number one defenseman, Holden is one of our top D prospects, and Sestito could develop into our hybrid enforcer of the future. Edler is the kind of guy we need to add to what we already have on the backend. The third is a wash because Sestito was a third.

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Tyutin, Sestito, and Holden for Edler and a Third?
Never.

Similar production and Edler costs more. At best I would make it an even swap with no kickers either way so why bother. Its like trading a red apple for the apple that is red and yellow. The taste is very slightly different but most would not notice the difference if the wrappers were the same.

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What the others have said, really. I wouldn't mind grabbing Edler, but giving up Tyutin in the process would be a step backward.

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Tyutin, Sestito, and Holden for Edler and a Third?
The Jackets can't afford to give up an NHL defensemen to get another one. The system is also a little light on Defense prospects, as well.

Want a winger or two?

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The Jackets can't afford to give up an NHL defensemen to get another one. The system is also a little light on Defense prospects, as well.
Agree with the first part, but have to question the second.

Moore
Goloubef
Ruth
Regner
Sigalet
Holden
Clitsome
Weber
Plekhanov
Savard
Blomqvist

and others

The biggest area lacking prospect depth is center. We've got Lynch heading to college and that's about it.

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09-16-2009, 01:08 PM
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Agree with the first part, but have to question the second.
We are, however, light on NHL ready prospects.

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Agree with the first part, but have to question the second.

Moore
Goloubef
Ruth
Regner
Sigalet
Holden
Clitsome
Weber
Plekhanov
Savard
Blomqvist

and others

The biggest area lacking prospect depth is center. We've got Lynch heading to college and that's about it.


There's alot of quantity there, but how about quality???

The only guy who can be a top 4 defensemen at the NHL level is John Moore, the rest of them are 5/6 guys and AHL callups for injury. I'd trade about 4-5 of those guys for a PMD.

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09-16-2009, 03:01 PM
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There's alot of quantity there, but how about quality???

The only guy who can be a top 4 defensemen at the NHL level is John Moore, the rest of them are 5/6 guys and AHL callups for injury. I'd trade about 4-5 of those guys for a PMD.
I don't believe that. I'm not sure there's elite talent there, other then maybe Moore, but there's some guys in there that have the potential to be more then 5/6 or depth players.

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We traded Zherdev for someone I'd never heard of (Tyutin). We better not turn around and trade Tyutin for someone I've never heard of...

Especially since he's turned out to be pretty good.

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09-16-2009, 04:36 PM
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We traded Zherdev for someone I'd never heard of (Tyutin). We better not turn around and trade Tyutin for someone I've never heard of...

Especially since he's turned out to be pretty good.
Maybe you should learn a little about players outside this team. Alexander Edler is one of the better young offensive D's in the league. Rocket of a shot.

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09-16-2009, 04:59 PM
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We already have two young defenseman learning the trade, Elder at 23 years of age would make our defense a training rink...

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Maybe you should learn a little about players outside this team. Alexander Edler is one of the better young offensive D's in the league. Rocket of a shot.
Doesn't mean the Jackets should give up the best defensman in club history (yes, you heard that right ) for him.

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I think Regner has a chance to be a top 4 d-man.

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We are, however, light on NHL ready prospects.
Light... I guess, but I'm not sure if I agree with that. It's still debatable whether Sigalet, Holden, Clitsome, and perhaps Plekhanov are ready to make that jump this year. That would be a decent amount of players on the cusp if we had a solid #7 in place not named Mathieu Roy.

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There's alot of quantity there, but how about quality???

The only guy who can be a top 4 defensemen at the NHL level is John Moore, the rest of them are 5/6 guys and AHL callups for injury. I'd trade about 4-5 of those guys for a PMD.
That's kind of the point of "depth" and "prospects." Not everyone will pan out. Not everyone is Nick Lidstrom or Mike Green.

We have one player I'd consider an elite talent (Moore), a few solid top 4 potential d-men (Ruth, Goloubef) and others that project to be NHL talents but how big of a step they take is up to them (Sigalet, Regner, Holden, Clitsome).

I'm not sure what more you could ask for. Yes, we might not have that future #1 guy in the pipeline that we'd all like, but remember Scott Howson has built this depth and added a good chunk of those players within the last two years. I'd say it's too early at best to determine the "quality" of the players you question.

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Light... I guess, but I'm not sure if I agree with that. It's still debatable whether Sigalet, Holden, Clitsome, and perhaps Plekhanov are ready to make that jump this year. That would be a decent amount of players on the cusp if we had a solid #7 in place not named Mathieu Roy.



That's kind of the point of "depth" and "prospects." Not everyone will pan out. Not everyone is Nick Lidstrom or Mike Green.

We have one player I'd consider an elite talent (Moore), a few solid top 4 potential d-men (Ruth, Goloubef) and others that project to be NHL talents but how big of a step they take is up to them (Sigalet, Regner, Holden, Clitsome).

I'm not sure what more you could ask for. Yes, we might not have that future #1 guy in the pipeline that we'd all like, but remember Scott Howson has built this depth and added a good chunk of those players within the last two years. I'd say it's too early at best to determine the "quality" of the players you question.
That sums it up imo..., I think Howson is very comfortable with our current top six defensemen. We actually have a nice mix of defensive players from #1 to #6, it's the 7th spot that must be addressed. Howson will gain little by trading one of our top six for another top six, he will still need that 7th spot player.

If one of our training camp players doesn’t cut the mustard for the 7th spot he will be forced into a trade but it will be a winger for a defenseman-he has few alternatives.

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09-16-2009, 07:07 PM
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Tyutin, Sestito, and Holden for Edler and a Third?
I'll pile on....

Edler would be a great addition in my opinion but unless it's a wing going the other way with picks and/or prospects it is highly unlikely he would become a Jacket. As for Tyutin....Nyet - can't trade him due to depth and his position atop our d-corp.

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09-17-2009, 06:42 AM
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I dunno guys. Tyutin is certainly good, but we have other good defensive D's and we desperately need a power play quarter back(edler is hardly learning his trade after last year). On top of that he learned his trade in vigneault's defensive system so he's quite good in his own end as well. I see it as worth it.

Granted I had already traded Chimera, Modin and a 2nd for Robyn Regehr, so it makes it easier to swallow.

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