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07-06-2009, 11:55 AM
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We had to pay to get rid of Gauthier, i'd prefer he stays away. The guy is a monster, but don't forget what a liability he can be, the guy loves taking stupid penalties.
Which is something we can't afford to add at this point.

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07-06-2009, 11:59 AM
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I'd rather Alberts than Gauthier

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I'd rather Alberts than Gauthier
Same. I would look into McKee too.

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From The Hockey News:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/27262-.html

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Bullies are rarely mathematicians.

As such, the Philadelphia Flyers have tried to stuff way too many high-priced bodies in their dressing room and face an impending salary cap crisis one year from now.

The Flyers have nearly $46 million committed to 13 lucky – financially, at least – players for 2010-11. If the cap falls as severely as some expect for that season, Philly could be left pounding the calculator in an attempt to sort out signing about seven players for a total of roughly $4 million.

Maybe their next move should be finding out if Albert Einstein has any relatives interested in the incredibly rewarding yet underappreciated academic discipline of capology.

But while Philadelphia management will be tied up with graphs and charts next season, the players will be doing wonderful things with sticks and pucks.

At this point, it goes without saying that goaltending is an issue in Philly. Like disappointment in Cleveland, big bucks in the Bronx or Patriots winning games in New England, the fact the Flyers will strap pads on understudies and let the chips fall where they may is just an accepted aspect of the North American sports scene.

However, the rest of the roster is getting so good it might not matter whether or not Ray Emery and Brian Boucher hit the high note.

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07-16-2009, 12:22 PM
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Same. I would look into McKee too.
signed with the pens

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07-18-2009, 02:03 AM
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Updated, including the signings of Pyörälä and Kolanos:

Six Top-Six Forwards
Daniel Briere -- 6.500.000
Mike Richards -- 5.750.000
Simon Gagne -- 5.250.000
Jeff Carter -- 5.000.000
Scott Hartnell -- 4.200.000
Claude Giroux -- 821.667
Sum: 27.521.667

Six Bottom-Six Forwards
Ian Laperierre -- 1.166.667
Daniel Carcillo -- 893.750
Arron Asham -- 640.000
Darroll Powe -- 520.000
Mika Pyörälä -- 500.000
Krys Kolanos -- 500.000
Sum: 4.220.417

Six Defensemen
Kimmo Timonen -- 6.333.333
Chris Pronger -- 6.250.000
Matt Carle -- 3.437.500
Randy Jones -- 2.750.000
Braydon Coburn -- 1.300.000
Ryan Parent -- 855.000
Sum: 20.925.833

13th Forward/7th Defenseman
Riley Cote -- 550.000
Sum: 550.000

Two Goaltender
Ray Emery -- 1.500.000
Brian Boucher -- 925.000
Sum: 2.425.000

27.521.667 <== Six Top-Six Forwards
04.220.417 <== Six Bottom-Six Forwards
20.925.833 <== Six Defensemen
00.550.000 <== 13th Forward / 7th Defenseman
02.425.000 <== Two Goaltender
55.642.917

56.800.000 <== Upper Limit
55.642.917 <== Twentyone Players
01.157.083 <== Cap Space


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07-18-2009, 06:03 AM
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Looks good RD, still some nice wiggle room

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07-18-2009, 08:24 AM
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Looks good RD, still some nice wiggle room
How that glee, Hov... Still need that 7th D-man factored in.

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07-18-2009, 08:31 AM
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If Emery does in fact have a great comeback season, no amount of hometown discount could keep him here with the contracted players... Unless a cog is moved for minimal return -- Carle? (best bet) Gagne?(NTC) Briere?(NMC)

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Added Tollefsen:

Six Top-Six Forwards
Daniel Briere -- 6.500.000
Mike Richards -- 5.750.000
Simon Gagne -- 5.250.000
Jeff Carter -- 5.000.000
Scott Hartnell -- 4.200.000
Claude Giroux -- 821.667
Sum: 27.521.667

Six Bottom-Six Forwards
Ian Laperierre -- 1.166.667
Daniel Carcillo -- 893.750
Arron Asham -- 640.000
Darroll Powe -- 520.000
Mika Pyörälä -- 500.000
Krys Kolanos -- 500.000
Sum: 4.220.417

Six Defensemen
Kimmo Timonen -- 6.333.333
Chris Pronger -- 6.250.000
Matt Carle -- 3.437.500
Randy Jones -- 2.750.000
Braydon Coburn -- 1.300.000
Ryan Parent -- 855.000
Sum: 20.925.833

13th Forward/7th Defenseman
Ole-Kristian Tollefsen -- 600.000
Riley Cote -- 550.000
Sum: 1.150.000

Two Goaltender
Ray Emery -- 1.500.000
Brian Boucher -- 925.000
Sum: 2.425.000

27.521.667 <== Six Top-Six Forwards
04.220.417 <== Six Bottom-Six Forwards
20.925.833 <== Six Defensemen
01.150.000 <== 13th Forward / 7th Defenseman
02.425.000 <== Two Goaltender
56.242.917

56.800.000 <== Upper Limit
56.242.917 <== Twentytwo Players
00.557.083 <== Cap Space

It's a complete roster now, 13 forwards, seven defensemen and two goalies. Roughly $550K in capspace if two of the cheap forwards (Pyörälä, Kolanos, Kaspar, Ward) make the roster, less if either Kalinski (875K) or Nödl (850K) make it.


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08-01-2009, 08:08 AM
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i dont expect this to be our final roster. we dont have enough wiggle room, someone (Jones?) will be moved to make more room

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well with Cote waived, we have over a mil in cap space

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so i guess Mike Rathje has retired? Usually he makes his "attempt at a comeback" so that he still gets his money, but he's not there this season

so i guess we have an extra contract slot now

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09-18-2009, 07:13 PM
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so i guess Mike Rathje has retired? Usually he makes his "attempt at a comeback" so that he still gets his money, but he's not there this season

so i guess we have an extra contract slot now
I believe he is still on the books... collecting that $3.5M in increments, less the escrow... and screwing up the Cap. Everything I've seen and read has him not retired.

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09-18-2009, 07:45 PM
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Well, as long as he's on LTIR, his cap hit is actually the amount which we get to go over the cap (if I remember correctly).

Essentially, Rathje has no cap hit.

Similar to Briere when he was on LTIR following groin surgery. When he came back we had to waive Vaananen and Metro to clear salary space.

Think I got that right.

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Well, as long as he's on LTIR, his cap hit is actually the amount which we get to go over the cap (if I remember correctly).

Essentially, Rathje has no cap hit.

Similar to Briere when he was on LTIR following groin surgery. When he came back we had to waive Vaananen and Metro to clear salary space.

Think I got that right.

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But, as has been discussed on another thread, he takes up Cap that could have been used to eat up bonus money, as opposed to having it applied to the following year's Cap... screwing up the spending then. JvR was the example of where it could be applied. The Cap rules are complicated and at times nasty... Rathje is in fact still effecting the team.

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I think I read somewhere that the Flyers appealed to the league that it should not still count against the 50 contract limit, but the league decided it should still be counted.


How about Rathje on the Phantoms?

Lehtivuori - Rathje

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I think I read somewhere that the Flyers appealed to the league that it should not still count against the 50 contract limit, but the league decided it should still be counted.


How about Rathje on the Phantoms?

Lehtivuori - Rathje
It would be sweet if they could waive a LTI'd player... Then it's only his contract slot he is killing us with.

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Question, say the cap goes down next year. And a team has no expiring contracts. Other than trading there is no way to take a guy off the payroll without counting against a cap, either via buyout or waivers. Is there a grace period to get under the cap, or will the league just look the other way for obvious salary dump trades. Anything trying to circumvent their precious cap seems to get the league pissy.

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well in the off season you can go over the cap by 10%

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well in the off season you can go over the cap by 10%
But LTIR counts as being on the cap.

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Question, say the cap goes down next year. And a team has no expiring contracts. Other than trading there is no way to take a guy off the payroll without counting against a cap, either via buyout or waivers. Is there a grace period to get under the cap, or will the league just look the other way for obvious salary dump trades. Anything trying to circumvent their precious cap seems to get the league pissy.
Waiving a guy (and either losing him or sending him down) most certainly gets him off the cap.

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But LTIR counts as being on the cap.
Yeah but that is irrelevant to next year(which im assuming is the time in theory here) since this is the last year of Rathje's deal

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Yeah but that is irrelevant to next year(which im assuming is the time in theory here) since this is the last year of Rathje's deal
Who?
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According to Timmy P. JVR's cap hit this year is only $875,000, but capgeek counts it as 1.654 mil.

http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landi...891&feedID=704

He said he checked this out with the NHLPA.

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