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09-25-2009, 10:04 AM
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as of right now, we need proven defensemen much more than we need proven forwards, so my answer is no.

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09-25-2009, 10:38 AM
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I am not going to go into Redden and his play on D. You like it? Fine. You are like most Rangers fans suppose to like it.

Briere is definitely not MORE injured then Gabby.

So yes, 100% BS.
Over the last two years, Briere has played about 14 more games or so than Gaborik, I believe. The poster you quoted didn't say more injury prone overall. Just over the last two years.

I just want to know if you honestly think Briere is better defensively than Redden. It might be the funniest thing I will ever read on this board.

Please.

Say that.

I want to read it. You obviously believe that, so let's all see you say it.

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09-25-2009, 11:16 AM
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Over the last two years, Briere has played about 14 more games or so than Gaborik, I believe. The poster you quoted didn't say more injury prone overall. Just over the last two years.

I just want to know if you honestly think Briere is better defensively than Redden. It might be the funniest thing I will ever read on this board.

Please.

Say that.

I want to read it. You obviously believe that, so let's all see you say it.
You want me to compare 1st line forward to barely top 4 d-men? With basically the same contract? and you already stated that Briere played 14more game in last two seasons. ha ha ha

My man... we will talk after this season. Who is better at what... Briere is on the mission.

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09-25-2009, 11:18 AM
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You want me to compare 1st line forward to barely top 4 d-men? With basically the same contract? ha ha ha

My man... we will talk after this season. Who is better at what... Briere is on the mission.
You just can't admit that you believe something so out there. If you believe it, admit it. It would at least get you a bit more respect.

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09-25-2009, 11:29 AM
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You just can't admit that you believe something so out there. If you believe it, admit it. It would at least get you a bit more respect.
No one on this board respects him. Sorry.

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09-25-2009, 11:31 AM
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I'm playing a game here! Shhhh!

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09-25-2009, 11:32 AM
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If we could make this work cap wise, I take this deal any day of the week. We swap a very solid player in Prospal for a legit number one center and PP specialist in Briere. Does his contract suck? Absolutely. But Redden's contract sucks a hell of a lot worse. Jones is an adequate enough stopgap for Sanguinetti/Sauer/etc.

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09-25-2009, 11:39 AM
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I don't even know if I'd swap Redden straight up for Briere at this point.

If Redden sucks again this year, Sather could waive him and go after Kovalchuk when he hits free agency, and call up one of the kids (Sanguinetti, McDonagh) to replace him. Briere wouldn't be as expendable.

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09-25-2009, 11:40 AM
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From the Flyers POV: Not a Chance in Hell.

If I'm a Rangers fan I take that deal in a heartbeat and run laughing all the way home. Briere is the only legit impact player of the 4. Jones is grossly overpaid but serviceable. Wade Redden is a shell of his former self and has possibly the worst dollar for dollar contract in the league. Prospal played relatively well feeding off of - yep, you guessed it, DANNY BRIERE - in his last stint with the Flyers.

I'd rather have Briere at his contract that any of the other three players by a country mile, and it looks like Randy Jones is going to get paid 2.75 to play for the Phantoms.

I also love how people add 1.5 million to Briere's caphit to make it look even remotely bad for the Rangers.

Again, from the Flyers POV: Not a Chance in Hell.

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09-25-2009, 11:53 AM
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From the Flyers POV: Not a Chance in Hell.

If I'm a Rangers fan I take that deal in a heartbeat and run laughing all the way home. Briere is the only legit impact player of the 4. Jones is grossly overpaid but serviceable. Wade Redden is a shell of his former self and has possibly the worst dollar for dollar contract in the league. Prospal played relatively well feeding off of - yep, you guessed it, DANNY BRIERE - in his last stint with the Flyers.

I'd rather have Briere at his contract that any of the other three players by a country mile, and it looks like Randy Jones is going to get paid 2.75 to play for the Phantoms.

I also love how people add 1.5 million to Briere's caphit to make it look even remotely bad for the Rangers.

Again, from the Flyers POV: Not a Chance in Hell.
Great!

Awesome!

No one really cares!

Keep him. We don't want him.

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09-25-2009, 11:58 AM
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Great!

Awesome!

No one really cares!

Keep him. We don't want him.
Exactly, why trade one bad contract for another bad contract, when we can waive Redden in the offseason, and even if we were to go after a center, we can go after Savard or Marleau.

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09-25-2009, 11:59 AM
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Great!

Awesome!

No one really cares!

Keep him. We don't want him.
Speak for yourself. A number one center in exchange for our grossly overpaid #4 defenseman? Done and done.

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09-25-2009, 11:59 AM
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Exactly, why trade one bad contract for another bad contract, when we can waive Redden in the offseason, and even if we were to go after a center, we can go after Savard or Marleau.
Because Briere is every bit as good as Savard and a hell of a lot better than Marleau.

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09-25-2009, 12:01 PM
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Because Briere is every bit as good as Savard and a hell of a lot better than Marleau.
Uh. No.

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09-25-2009, 12:04 PM
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Because Briere is every bit as good as Savard and a hell of a lot better than Marleau.
And he's every bit as injured as Gaborik. They could bond over their groin issues...

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09-25-2009, 12:12 PM
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Because Briere is every bit as good as Savard and a hell of a lot better than Marleau.
Absolutely not. Two words for you...

Center Ice... order it.

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09-25-2009, 12:17 PM
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I've seen plenty of both Briere and Savard, and they are as close as two players can get in terms of talent, and Marleau can't touch either of them. Briere is somewhat more injury prone, sure, but not as bad as some make it out to be. If you don't count last season he's been pretty healthy since the lockout, and his PPG average has been right around that of Savard.

But back to the original argument, I would take him over Redden any day of the week, and I fail to see why anyone wouldn't.

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09-25-2009, 12:17 PM
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Why would the flyers even want prospal and redden? Briere is looking to have a big year too. This is silly

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09-25-2009, 12:24 PM
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briere is worse than redden defensively and more injury prone than gaborik for the last 2 seasons
Comparing defensive play of a forward to that of a defenseman is retarded. Its like saying Emery is better at blocking shots than Pronger. so that point makes no sense. as for briere's health...

06-07 - 81 games played - 95 pts (15 playoff points in 16 games)
07-08 - 79 games played - 72 pts (16 playoff points in 17 games)
08-09 - 29 games played - 25 pts (4 playoff points in 6 games)

Yeah you're right, totally damaged goods.

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09-25-2009, 12:35 PM
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And he's every bit as injured as Gaborik. They could bond over their groin issues...
Briere
06-07 - 81 games played - 95 pts (15 playoff points in 16 games)
07-08 - 79 games played - 72 pts (16 playoff points in 17 games)
08-09 - 29 games played - 25 pts (4 playoff points in 6 games)
228 total games played

Gaborik
06-07 - 48 games played - 57 pts (4 playoff points in 5 games)
07-08 - 77 games played - 83 pts (1 playoff points in 6 games)
08-09 - 17 games played - 23 pts (0 playoff points in 0 games)
153 games played

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09-25-2009, 12:50 PM
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Briere
06-07 - 81 games played - 95 pts (15 playoff points in 16 games)
07-08 - 79 games played - 72 pts (16 playoff points in 17 games)
08-09 - 29 games played - 25 pts (4 playoff points in 6 games)
228 total games played

Gaborik
06-07 - 48 games played - 57 pts (4 playoff points in 5 games)
07-08 - 77 games played - 83 pts (1 playoff points in 6 games)
08-09 - 17 games played - 23 pts (0 playoff points in 0 games)
153 games played

Yeah, I'd have to say this argument is over.

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09-25-2009, 03:18 PM
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that's beyond awful. Briere was injured, Redden just stinks. Jones was waived today I believe so you can pick him up for his salary. The Flyers could have had Prospal cheap too but didn't want him.

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09-25-2009, 03:29 PM
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that's beyond awful. Briere was injured, Redden just stinks. Jones was waived today I believe so you can pick him up for his salary. The Flyers could have had Prospal cheap too but didn't want him.
And who the **** are your sources on this, Eklund him self? This sounds just like a Dwayne Klessel rumor/assumption. But any way back to my original point, thats right, you dont have any sources, and are making very dumb assumptions so please stop.

Look Briere is no where near as bad as any one is making him sound, and the stats that were put up pretty much end every argument of saying no to this trade, but the point is, I believe the flyers Gm is still Paul Holmgren and if he was looking for a way to get fired, then he might do this, and thats still a might.

MIKE ****ING MILBURY WOULDNT BE THIS DUMB. It would benefit the Rangers greatly but it wont happen.

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