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Thoughts on Kovalchuk's future?

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10-01-2009, 03:42 PM
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i highly doubt he'll be a thrasher he'll be either a san jose shark in a trade a toronto maple leafs or a new jersey devil

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10-01-2009, 03:42 PM
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He will stay in Atlanta, why would he leave to go to another struggling playoff team? most of the teams with capspace are non playoff teams or borderline

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10-01-2009, 03:43 PM
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I think he will end up in Boston, with the Bruins tradiing both 1st from the Kessel trade, plus a few roster players and a couple prospects, Hamill/Colbourne.
As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
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Are the additions that Atlanta did this offseason really enough to make them a playoff team?
Tom Gilbert, Patrick O'Sullivan, Jordan Eberle, and a first enough for a long term signed Kovalchuk?

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10-01-2009, 03:46 PM
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Boston couldn't fit Kessel, how would they then manage to fit Kovalchuk?

I think he'll end up staying in Atlanta.
pro-rated salaries. if hes a deadline deal they dont have to make all that much room to fit him. resigning him would be tricky but im strictly thinking for a cup run right now. id let them sort out how to sign him long term after.

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He will stay in Atlanta, why would he leave to go to another struggling playoff team? most of the teams with capspace are non playoff teams or borderline
$$$

Not just contract money that Atlanta could match, either. Marketing around him would be huge if he played anywhere with a decent fanbase. It's the same reason Lebron James is getting out of Cleveland.

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10-01-2009, 04:00 PM
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well I highly doubt it'll be in atlanta, that's for sure..

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pro-rated salaries. if hes a deadline deal they dont have to make all that much room to fit him. resigning him would be tricky but im strictly thinking for a cup run right now. id let them sort out how to sign him long term after.
I still think it'd be tough for them to fit him in. Next season would be more than tricky, methinks. Ryder would likely be the first player on his way, I'd imagine.

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Are the additions that Atlanta did this offseason really enough to make them a playoff team?
Tom Gilbert, Patrick O'Sullivan, Jordan Eberle, and a first enough for a long term signed Kovalchuk?
I have a feeling they are going to want additional high draft picks as well. You guys have that much depth to let all of those players go??

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10-01-2009, 04:15 PM
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Kovalchuk and Savard to the LEAFS!@*(!&@(*&!#!@!!! You heard it here first!

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As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
'10 LA 2nd (Phi)
Stoll
Moller
Voynov
LA would probably have to give up Schenn in a deal for Kovalchuk.

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10-01-2009, 04:17 PM
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I dunno, he may not want to be traded, apparently his wife is expecting their third child, possibly close to the trade deadline....

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As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
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Stoll
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Voynov
If he's not a rental, he's not going anywhere.

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$$$

Not just contract money that Atlanta could match, either. Marketing around him would be huge if he played anywhere with a decent fanbase. It's the same reason Lebron James is getting out of Cleveland.
Cleveland to New York is nowhere near the same as Atlanta to New York

You understand that Atlanta is one of the major cities in America as well as having one of the biggest growth rates for major cities. The potential is unlimited.

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Cleveland to New York is nowhere near the same as Atlanta to New York

You understand that Atlanta is one of the major cities in America as well as having one of the biggest growth rates for major cities. The potential is unlimited.
It's also a non-traditional hockey market. Joining a fanbase in a city like New York or Toronto or even Los Angeles would be much better for marketing Kovalchuk. I understand that the economy in Atlanta is growing comparatively to other cities, I just don't see Kovalchuk getting immediate marketing like he would in other places. Different sports have different impacts.

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If he's not a rental, he's not going anywhere.
This...if we sign him, why would we trade him??? Isn't that the point of this thread?

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10-01-2009, 05:14 PM
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10-01-2009, 05:30 PM
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The Thrashers will be better this year - I can't see what other teams can give him:
1.) the money
2.) the captaincy
3.) field a competitive young team - remember, they've got Kane, Little, Enstrom, and Bogosian...and their draft last year was excellent.

If Kari Lehtonen wasn't a moron who can't look after himself (and he is), then Ilya would have already signed.

Ilya and Grossman just want to make sure Atlanta isn't taking a step backwards this year before he signs, that's all.

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10-01-2009, 05:37 PM
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As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
'10 LA 2nd (Phi)
Stoll
Moller
Voynov
thats not even half of his value

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As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
'10 LA 2nd (Phi)
Stoll
Moller
Voynov
I personally wouldn't do it. We could definitely get more than what you offered if he was a rental.

-Stoll doesn't do it for me. We don't really need more third line centers. Who won't be here long term. There is a problem when the most proven player is Stoll.
-Philly's second rounder is a very low pick naturally. No interest in that.
- I honestly don't know much about Voinov but I don't think he is a top prospect.
-Moller I don't know about either. I doubt he is a top prospect either.

If Kovalchuk is going somewhere there needs to be a proven young guy coming back along with some good prospects. Jack Johnson, 1st, and Schenn sounds right. Throw in Kubina from Atlanta.

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10-01-2009, 06:04 PM
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he's gonna leave atlanta...heres why

1) hes gonna get top dollar offers from a bunch of teams he will be highly sought after

2) he wants to go to a contender...atlanta might become a playoff team but they ar far far off from being a contendor in teh east there are a handful of very good teams that are also young so should be staying good

3) he wants to go to a big hockey market..and atlanta will never be a big hockey market or even close to it...if your an nhl player i beleive atlanta is near last on your list of prefered destinations

the only way i see atlanta resigning him is if they somehow are relocated to a new city

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10-01-2009, 06:08 PM
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The Thrashers will be better this year - I can't see what other teams can give him:
1.) the money
2.) the captaincy
3.) field a competitive young team - remember, they've got Kane, Little, Enstrom, and Bogosian...and their draft last year was excellent.

If Kari Lehtonen wasn't a moron who can't look after himself (and he is), then Ilya would have already signed.

Ilya and Grossman just want to make sure Atlanta isn't taking a step backwards this year before he signs, that's all.
I think it all comes down to the money, but I don't mean his salary. Atlanta could have a bright future... but those young players are eventually going to have to be paid.

The question is, with Kovalchuk getting more than he is now, will Atlanta be willing/able to make the pie bigger (ie: spend closer to the cap) so that they can actually keep their young talent and potentially compete.

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Like the Kings, not sold on their goaltending. They'll have to score a lot of goals to win games, which could go well towards Kovy having a brilliant season. But if they want to win, they'll simply need better goaltending.

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10-01-2009, 06:13 PM
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Atlanta in the Playoffs? Then resign is = YES
Atlanta not going to make the Playoffs? Then trade at deadline = YES

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I'm not sure if Atlanta's going to make the playoffs or not... but even if they do I don't think they're going to be in a position that they're confident they'll make the playoffs at the deadline.

A lot of potential for a repeat of the Bouwmeester situation.

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