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Thoughts on Kovalchuk's future?

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10-01-2009, 08:01 PM
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I have a feeling they are going to want additional high draft picks as well. You guys have that much depth to let all of those players go??
It might be doable. I'm not sure if the Oilers would have to add to that. Thats more than any other "superstar" has garnered. I'd rather switch Gilbert with Visnovsky

Kovalchuck-Gagner-Hemsky
Penner-Comrie-Cogliano
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Jacques-Brule-Stortini
Nilsson/MacIntyre

Souray-Gilbert
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Not an elite team but its a start

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Would love to see Vancouver shed some salary and sign Kovalchuk. I could see once Demitra is off the books though it may involve losing another good player like Kesler (if he wants too much money) and/or a D-man like Salo or Schneider.

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10-01-2009, 08:13 PM
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I'd love for him to hit FA, but my gut says he'll stay. He just wants to make sure that the Thrashers management keeps progressing.

Signing Antropov for 4 years was an act of good faith.

Kovy strikes me as the type of guy that wants to win, but let's not forget, he's the all-time points leader for that young franchise. If he retires a Thrasher, he'll hold nearly every franchise record and they'll most likely put his jersey in the rafters when he retires. They made him captain and he might value what he means to that franchise more than being on a contender.

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10-01-2009, 08:31 PM
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Would love to see Vancouver shed some salary and sign Kovalchuk. I could see once Demitra is off the books though it may involve losing another good player like Kesler (if he wants too much money) and/or a D-man like Salo or Schneider.
Hodgson + is what it would take

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10-01-2009, 09:35 PM
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Kovalchuk to the Oilers... you can mark my words. But unlike a fellow Oiler fan who posted here, my offer would begin with Gagner - a couple firsts, maybe a promising defenseman, Eberle... the fact is, the Oilers have a lot to offer (whether Vancouver and Calgary fans want to admit it or not). Hemsky feeding Kovalchuk would be phenomenal. Plus, O'Sullivan (another dynamite shooter) could shore up the second line - being fed by Comrie.

Some Oiler fans might not like my suggestion of Gagner and Eberle, but this is Kovalchuk. Plus, I like O'Sullivan better than either Gagner and Eberle. The Oilers have too many midgets.

Kovalchuk Horcoff Hemsky
O'Sullivan Comrie Jacques
Penner Brule Cogliano
Moreau Stone Stortini

While the opposition is worrying about the top line, O'Sullvan can fill the back of their net with feeds from Comrie - while Jacques pummels their mid-range defensemen.

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10-02-2009, 01:35 AM
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Kovalchuk to the Oilers... you can mark my words. But unlike a fellow Oiler fan who posted here, my offer would begin with Gagner - a couple firsts, maybe a promising defenseman, Eberle... the fact is, the Oilers have a lot to offer (whether Vancouver and Calgary fans want to admit it or not). Hemsky feeding Kovalchuk would be phenomenal. Plus, O'Sullivan (another dynamite shooter) could shore up the second line - being fed by Comrie.

Some Oiler fans might not like my suggestion of Gagner and Eberle, but this is Kovalchuk. Plus, I like O'Sullivan better than either Gagner and Eberle. The Oilers have too many midgets.

Kovalchuk Horcoff Hemsky
O'Sullivan Comrie Jacques
Penner Brule Cogliano
Moreau Stone Stortini

While the opposition is worrying about the top line, O'Sullvan can fill the back of their net with feeds from Comrie - while Jacques pummels their mid-range defensemen.
No big star wants to play in Edmonton, Hossa, Heater.

I honestly see him going to a city where hockey is big and has a great night life and city. MTL, Toronto, NYR, etc

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10-02-2009, 02:09 AM
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He will sign with the Trashers.

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10-02-2009, 02:25 AM
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$$$

Not just contract money that Atlanta could match, either. Marketing around him would be huge if he played anywhere with a decent fanbase. It's the same reason Lebron James is getting out of Cleveland.
Get realistic please.


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10-02-2009, 08:16 AM
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No big star wants to play in Edmonton, Hossa, Heater.

I honestly see him going to a city where hockey is big and has a great night life and city. MTL, Toronto, NYR, etc
Yes, I see all those big stars lining up to play for Toronto...

I am not sure what Kovalchuk's personal life is like; but the fact remains that if he wants to play in a true hockey city, Edmonton is a very good option (in my experience, its a toss up between Montreal and Edmonton for who is the cult of hockey). And Edmonton, with the addition of a Kovalchuk, is potentially a very good team. As I mentioned, the Oilers have depth... and if they can maintain that depth while acquiring a player like Kovalchuk all the better.

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10-02-2009, 08:20 AM
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Kovalchuk's future??
I predict that one day Kovalchuk dies.

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10-02-2009, 08:21 AM
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I think Kovy is going to stay with Atlanta to be honest....

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As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
'10 LA 2nd (Phi)
Stoll
Moller
Voynov

Try adding a Doughty, Johnson or Kopitar in that mix

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i cant wait to see the backlash on this board when he re-signs... i can see it now...

"HES ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY!"

"HE DOESNT WANT TO WIN!"

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10-02-2009, 09:19 AM
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I know it's only one game, but Washington looks awesome. That's a big bummer for Atlanta fans.

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If the Rangers can dump Redden for free and trade Roszival, my money is on the Rangers to offer him the biggest contract. Whether that means he'll take that contract, I don't know but I doubt he signs before the end of the year to stay with Atlanta.

Next year having a line of Kovalchuk-Anisimov-Gaborik is something to dream about.
I like the ring of Kovalchuk - Kadri - Kessel better

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He wants to play with a future hall of fame defenseman.


So he re-signs to play with Bogosian.

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10-02-2009, 09:42 AM
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I honestly want to believe he'll resign in Atlanta, I really hope he does. I see a lot of good things coming out of Atlanta and see them doing well this year if their goaltending wants to co op. He is their franchise and it would be a huge step back for the franchise if he were to leave, I'd also think that they would continue being perennial bottom feeders for the next 5 years. As much as I'd want him on my team than the next I want to see Atlanta be successful and make some gains and he is the key to that.

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How are Colorado and Toronto closer to becoming contenders than Atlanta?

The Thrashers have a much better group of young players than either of them.

Colorado is one of the last places Ilya will end up based on wanting to win sooner rather than later.
Actually I disagree. Colorado, while down now, has made a history of trying to win for the last decade or so. In Colorado, he'll have Duchene and Stastny as young centers, Wolski and Hejduk as wingers. The Avs are also one of the few teams that will have capspace (outside of course, Atlanta) to re-sign him for a large extension. I won't deny Atlanta's prospect pool, but Colorado definitely isn't a bad team to join for the next few years.

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to Montreal: Ilya Kovalchuk
to Atlanta: Kostitsyn bros, Pk Subban

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Kovalchuk to the Oilers... you can mark my words. But unlike a fellow Oiler fan who posted here, my offer would begin with Gagner - a couple firsts, maybe a promising defenseman, Eberle... the fact is, the Oilers have a lot to offer (whether Vancouver and Calgary fans want to admit it or not). Hemsky feeding Kovalchuk would be phenomenal. Plus, O'Sullivan (another dynamite shooter) could shore up the second line - being fed by Comrie.

Some Oiler fans might not like my suggestion of Gagner and Eberle, but this is Kovalchuk. Plus, I like O'Sullivan better than either Gagner and Eberle. The Oilers have too many midgets.

Kovalchuk Horcoff Hemsky
O'Sullivan Comrie Jacques
Penner Brule Cogliano
Moreau Stone Stortini

While the opposition is worrying about the top line, O'Sullvan can fill the back of their net with feeds from Comrie - while Jacques pummels their mid-range defensemen.
to ATL: O'Sullivan, Eberle, MSP
to EDM: Kovalchuk

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As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
'10 LA 2nd (Phi)
Stoll
Moller
Voynov

This isn't bad, but another 1st rounder would have to be added. Maybe take out Voynov & put in Teubert, too.

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I like the ring of Kovalchuk - Kadri - Kessel better
LMFAO. I just caught that. That'd go over reallll well.

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He will sign with the Leafs in the summer.

That's right!!

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As long as he is not a rental:

'10 LA 1st
'10 LA 2nd (Phi)
Stoll
Moller
Voynov
I don't see this being enough to get him. I would think Atlanta would want a roster player other than Stoll, like Brown or Johnson, but hey maybe they get more desperate as time goes on and it gets closer to the deadline.

As much as I have trashed the idea of bringing Gretzky back in any capacity with the Kings, this is the kind of situation where he could be useful. If there is anyone that can explain to a superstar what it is like to be a superstar and play in LA when the Kings are winning, it's Gretzky.

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I think Boston is actually a viable option at the trade deadline, the only problem is if it requires a significant roster player going back. I definitely would not be Lucic, and Sturm has a NTC.

Here is a return I could imagine:

Kobasew
Joe Colborne
Vladimir Sobotka
Toronto's 1st 2010 (assume 10th overall).

This beats what they got for Hossa IMHO. It is actually a pretty heft price for what could be a rental.

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