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10-02-2009, 07:43 PM
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I think McGuire is on drugs. The guy is a buffoon.

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10-02-2009, 07:45 PM
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Chicago is expected to win now, that's why they might be interested in an upgrade in Halak. Let's face it everyone Price is our guy...

A-Kos has to go, recently I`ve heard reports that Kane & A-Kos still keep in touch, they`re old knights and are friends.

Seabrook , Keith not going anywhere & Campbell(Not happening because of cap) so they are stuck with Campbell, great offense guy, just won`t fit for us.. That leaves a guy like Barker out there. They have to re-sign they`re future & have to let something go, while improving themselves ....
I think you mean Skost.

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that what im saying too....

for all these guys on here ready to give up Halak + Sergei plus Subban or another prospect , i think that way to much ..period....

Would i take Barker? yes

Do i want to give up the farm to get him .No

He was called a stud when drafted in 2004 but heading for 24 he still yet to live up to that billing ....yeah i know d take time, but UFA is 27 also ......so it could be 3 yrs and out .....
But you wanted Babchuk who sucks defensively, you want Allen who sucks overall.

He had 40 some points last year only playing 18ish minutes a game ? That's good.

Having Keith, Seabrook, and Campbell would limit his ice time. They also have Hjarlmasson who's pretty solid as well.

He had the 6th most TOI, and only a few seconds behind Toews and Kane. The other 3 ahead of him, yup, Keith, Seabrook, Campbell.

Also a powerplay guy, as well. Though, like everyone else said, if we trade Halak, might cause a problem.

Really, I say just use from with in, unless we get more injuries.

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10-02-2009, 07:50 PM
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I think you mean Skost.



But you wanted Babchuk who sucks defensively, you want Allen who sucks overall.

He had 40 some points last year only playing 18ish minutes a game ? That's good.

Having Keith, Seabrook, and Campbell would limit his ice time. They also have Hjarlmasson who's pretty solid as well.

He had the 6th most TOI, and only a few seconds behind Toews and Kane. The other 3 ahead of him, yup, Keith, Seabrook, Campbell.

Also a powerplay guy, as well. Though, like everyone else said, if we trade Halak, might cause a problem.

Really, I say just use from with in, unless we get more injuries.

Yes Babchuck would have come CHEAP ...not having to give up Halak and Sergei to get him ...

.his salary would have been 1.6 MILLION not 3 million+ ....

He has as much potential as Barker at this point .....

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10-02-2009, 07:51 PM
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Let's go crazy!

Andrei and Sergei + Halak, Subban and a first

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Barker and Sharp.

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10-02-2009, 07:56 PM
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Yes Babchuck would have come CHEAP ...not having to give up Halak and Sergei to get him ...

.his salary would have been 1.6 MILLION not 3 million+ ....

He has as much potential as Barker at this point .....
He's older, soft as butter and has been the 2nd time he's bolted to Russia.

Barker is safe in ANY situation and actually uses his size.

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10-02-2009, 08:00 PM
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I think McGuire is on drugs. The guy is a buffoon.
Good call. Not a chance Sergei and Halak alone net you Barker.

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10-02-2009, 08:00 PM
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Barker is a stud on the PP but he has major deficiencies in the defensive zone.

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10-02-2009, 08:00 PM
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I think you mean Skost.



But you wanted Babchuk who sucks defensively, you want Allen who sucks overall.

He had 40 some points last year only playing 18ish minutes a game ? That's good.

Having Keith, Seabrook, and Campbell would limit his ice time. They also have Hjarlmasson who's pretty solid as well.

He had the 6th most TOI, and only a few seconds behind Toews and Kane. The other 3 ahead of him, yup, Keith, Seabrook, Campbell.

Also a powerplay guy, as well. Though, like everyone else said, if we trade Halak, might cause a problem.

Really, I say just use from with in, unless we get more injuries.

I know your trying to say i dont know wth im talking about ...thats fine


but you loook for a second ....I wanted Babchuck because he was cheap and young ......

Babchuck you say sucks D wise ..yet he is a career -1

He has SCORED 61 GOALS in 168 games...



Yet you wanna go sell the farm to get Barker??????
150 games 13 goal scorer with a career MINUS -21 rating .....



Cam Barker 150 13 53 66 -21

Anton Babchuck NHL 168 61 23 38 -1

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10-02-2009, 08:03 PM
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I really wanted Barker.

But he is not THAT good. I wanted Gainey to give him an offer sheet this summer and went to the Hawks board to see how good is he. I learnt that he is very slow overall. Slow on skate and slow to take decision.

But I would still make this trade.. though it would be a big risk if Sanford is our 2nd goalie. Imagine if Price gets injured.

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10-02-2009, 08:06 PM
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I know your trying to say i dont know wth im talking about ...thats fine


but you loook for a second ....I wanted Babchuck because he was cheap and young ......

Babchuck you say sucks D wise ..yet he is a career -1

He has SCORED 61 GOALS in 168 games...



Yet you wanna go sell the farm to get Barker??????
150 games 13 goal scorer with a career MINUS -21 rating .....



Cam Barker 150 13 53 66 -21

Anton Babchuck NHL 168 61 23 38 -1
typo +++Babchuck 61 pts ..
.i cant edit my posts due to privilege taken away from me ...

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10-02-2009, 08:15 PM
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typo +++Babchuck 61 pts ..
.i cant edit my posts due to privilege taken away from me ...
kk well i was gonna point that out lol. Barker has already had more points in less games, and he is 2 years younger. Unlike babchuck, he had an incredible playoffs as well. Carolina does not need to shed salary like Chicago does, and that is what makes Chicago such a great trading partner.

He is no Andrei Markov, but Barker has the potential to be great, and I would definitely invest in him and his contract (where he is an RFA) at the end of it.

Halak is really usefull, but from what I've learned about us giving up all these amazing Free Agents for nothing... accept we will not win the Stanley Cup this year (unless Price is amazing, which would mean that we wouldn't need Halak anyways) and work on the future which Barker would now be a part of.

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10-02-2009, 08:22 PM
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kk well i was gonna point that out lol. Barker has already had more points in less games, and he is 2 years younger. Unlike babchuck, he had an incredible playoffs as well. Carolina does not need to shed salary like Chicago does, and that is what makes Chicago such a great trading partner.

He is no Andrei Markov, but Barker has the potential to be great, and I would definitely invest in him and his contract (where he is an RFA) at the end of it.

Halak is really usefull, but from what I've learned about us giving up all these amazing Free Agents for nothing... accept we will not win the Stanley Cup this year (unless Price is amazing, which would mean that we wouldn't need Halak anyways) and work on the future which Barker would now be a part of.
thats the problem....Halak has the "potential" to be great...im just unsure how much we give up for taking the chance on Barker"potential" for 3 years and 3+million.....he is gone at 27 ......still hasnt put it together "yet" ..by the time he does (if he ever does)he leaves Montreal ...again id take him but not selling the farm to get him sorry....

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10-02-2009, 08:24 PM
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typo +++Babchuck 61 pts ..
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In the last 3 years, Markov is only +1, so he and Babchuk must be close, then ?

Babchuk has a huge shot, probably one of the best in the league (whenever he decides to, you know STAY in the league) 10 more goals in 18 more games.

I said I'd do Sergei Kostitsyn and Halak for him for sure. How is that selling the farm ?

Ask a canes fan. Babchuk is abso-****ing-lutely terrible. Well, not that bad, but he sucks ass defensively. Haven't I told you already Babchuk was benched in the playoffs because of his terrible defensive play ? He is terrible. Ask the canes which they would rather have. Cam Barker, or Anton Babchuk.

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In the last 3 years, Markov is only +1, so he and Babchuk must be close, then ?

Babchuk has a huge shot, probably one of the best in the league (whenever he decides to, you know STAY in the league) 10 more goals in 18 more games.

I said I'd do Sergei Kostitsyn and Halak for him for sure. How is that selling the farm ?

Ask a canes fan. Babchuk is abso-****ing-lutely terrible. Well, not that bad, but he sucks ass defensively. Haven't I told you already Babchuk was benched in the playoffs because of his terrible defensive play ? He is terrible. Ask the canes which they would rather have. Cam Barker, or Anton Babchuk.
ask Blackhawks fans if Barker has been benched or sent to ahl in the last 2 years ....

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10-02-2009, 08:39 PM
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What's so great about Cam Barker??? He had one decent season. He played on average 18 mins a game last yr and today he only played 13 mins. For a D-man that's pretty low. It doesn't seem like he's very trusted in Chicago.
Which is exactly why we have a chance of getting him. Just because Quennville trusts seabrook, keith and campbell way more than him, does not mean he can't be a top 3 guy with us. He's a top 3 pick with a ton of upside. Maybe if I'm chicago i'm thinking ahead to toews and kane and needing to sign them both, then thinking that if our top 3 is gangbusters and can play a ton of minutes, focus on them and then get good value for Barker. Better yet, prey on a team that is in a desperate situation like the habs, and weasel out some top picks and a much needed goalie and sergei too if they want him. But this is assuming they even want Halak...

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Let's face it, this trade is Halak for Barker because Sergei is never going to play another game for us. I'd do it. And sign Manny Fernandez as a backup for cheap if Sanford doesn't cut the mustard.

No clue why Chicago would be interested in Halak mind you.

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How about:

Sergei Kostitsyn
Mathieu Carle
Jaroslav Halak
4th round pick

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Cam Barker
Why don't we add Subban, Pacioretty and Weber while we're at it?

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As much as i am worried to lose Halak, who is a very good back-up, i would do it. Blackhawks save 1 500 000$ and get a very good back-up and their future #1 goalie.

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How about:

Sergei Kostitsyn
Mathieu Carle
Jaroslav Halak
4th round pick

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Cam Barker
for that, i hope we get both Barker and Andrew Ladd.

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Why don't we add Subban, Pacioretty and Weber while we're at it?
Carle isn't even in our top 5 prospect pool...At this point Weber and Subban are ahead of him in the depth chart and he's expendable. Imo, Carle's upside is a poorman of Patrice Brisebois.

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I'd really hate to give up Halak. I think he'll be a #1 in this league one day, given the chance. He'll probably have very similiar numbers to Price but for 1/3 the price. Any team that's scouted him knows he's got the skill to be an everyday goalie. His numbers aren't as good as they should be, but this year Halak should break out and post some solid numbers like he's shown in preseason.

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ask Blackhawks fans if Barker has been benched or sent to ahl in the last 2 years ....
He was sent because he was eligible and they needed to cut some salary.

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Let's face it, this trade is Halak for Barker because Sergei is never going to play another game for us. I'd do it. And sign Manny Fernandez as a backup for cheap if Sanford doesn't cut the mustard.

No clue why Chicago would be interested in Halak mind you.
Manny Legace is avail too.

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Sergei and Halak for

Cam Barker, according to him hes a potential 1st pairing D, 23 years old, and has a howardser of a shot.

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