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10-06-2009, 10:50 PM
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I actually saw one goal and Chipchura was there, but it was Stewart who missed the pass.

I don't think we can blame Halak on those goal. Don't forget he is a second goaltender, he is not Price.
Well after last season in here i thought that Halak was number #1 ?
Weren't there a whole bunch of posters here during the pre season stating that they weren't sure if the #1 goalie was Halak or Price ?
I just find it hilarious how they disappear when he doesn't play so well. Don't get me wrong i wouldn't trade Halak right now but he is NO #1 goalie in the NHL.

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So anyone knows if 1 minor penalty in a game is a modern-era record ?

Personally I don't think I have ever seen a game with no powerplay.

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So anyone knows if 1 minor penalty in a game is a record of the modern era ?

Personally I don't think I have ever seen a game with no powerplay.
Haven't ever seen one either and I'm 99% sure it's a record since the lockout.

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Well after last season in here i thought that Halak was number #1 ?
Weren't there a whole bunch of posters here during the pre season stating that they weren't sure if the #1 goalie was Halak or Price ?
I just find it hilarious how they disappear when he doesn't play so well. Don't get me wrong i wouldn't trade Halak right now but he is NO #1 goalie in the NHL.
As an outside sane observer who loves both of our goalies I find it insane that a bunch of numb-skulls have to bring this up after every game.

"WHERE ARE THE XXX FANS NOW?! HA!"

Ugh, so childish. It's especially prevalent with our goalies though... Take a step back people and just be happy for them together. It's not a war. We have two great young goalies, let's be happy for them. (Not going to happen - ever. I know. Wishful thinking.)

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I actually saw one goal and Chipchura was there, but it was Stewart who missed the pass.

I don't think we can blame Halak on those goal. Don't forget he is a second goaltender, he is not Price.
He is too deep in the net on that last goal. The puck was at the blue line, he shouldnt be that deep in his net.

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10-06-2009, 10:53 PM
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Chipchura gets his last shot at the NHL with the habs and...

He manage to be -3 in less than 5min of play...

Send him down to Hamilton don't give a damn if a team claim that slow, lazy, hearthless dude... Anyway Metropolit is 100 times better than Chip will ever be...
Did you even WATCH the game? Pathetic.

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So I guess I was the only one who was somewhat impressed with Chipchura? Yes -3.. but if you look at that, we can nitpick every player then..

Granted he looked weak sometimes, but this is a guy who had no pre-season, no training camp.. played in the AHL most of the time last year.. and now is line mates with two tough guys.. your expecting him to be the best player on the ice?

Give me a break.. he was fine tonight.
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man, weber had a fine game, whats everyone complaining about?

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Did you even WATCH the game? Pathetic.
We'll give Chip some games to get back in shape but yes... he was totally brutal.

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man, weber had a fine game, whats everyone complaining about?
People are being so picky. If we won, no one would be saying any of this.

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10-06-2009, 10:55 PM
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Thread title is misleading. The Habs work ethic was solid, but their play was anything but solid save for the final 10 minutes of the 3rd period.

Habs were outplayed for large chunks of this game and all 4 lines had a lot of trouble in our zone with breakouts, clearing attempts and covering Flames forwards. In general I'd say the work ethic was there, but there wasn't a lot of cohesion or "solid play" shown tonight. Most goals were scored against us because the Flames had a lot of possession in our zone and got pucks to the net. This happened against every line, it just so happened that the bounces went against our 4th line.

Individually I liked what Andrei brought in the 3rd period. He needs to keep doing that; working and moving his legs will make the game some much easier for him. Plekanec has been playing well this year. He's not afraid to mix it up in the corners and along the boards, which is great to see.

3rd line worked hard but other than the Lats goal they created very little offence, they couldn't establish much of a forecheck and their defensive play wasn't the best. But they were physical along the boards and they were working hard so that's always a positive. I like this line a lot and like I said they worked hard, but again I wouldn't really say played all that "solid."

4th line I'm willing to cut some slack. They started out very strong but as the game wore on they were less and less effective. People need to ease up on Chipchura. He showed some good things and you can't blame Nystrom's hattrick on him, though it is true his statline isn't pretty. Very good fight early on and offensively he made some good plays.

Laraque had some good hits but seemed to tire as the game wore on. Stewart, again I think people need to ease up. He certainly wasn't the reason we lost and if he can keep his game simple and work hard he's solid guy to have on your 4th line.

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cant wait for the boys to come home.

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So let's keep Pacioretty run around like a chicken with its head cut off on the 2nd line? Yeaaah... right.

Seriously, D'Agger was benched for much, much less. It's time to let him prove himself again...
It could be a combinaison. However, I think like you do that Pacioretty should be sent down to the AHL for the year.

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No PPs, geez, even if Bergeron was in the lineup his ice time would still be 0:00 mins played

Props to Chipchura for fighting in his first game back, Gomez skates like the wind, Moen is the next Mike Keane, and Gill should be nicknamed K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid)

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10-06-2009, 10:57 PM
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cant wait for the boys to come home.
Yeah seriously. That's usually where we see the good Habs. When's the last time the Habs started a season on a 5 game road trip, if ever?

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As for Chipchura, I thought he played well... and I think his -3 doesn't really show what happened on the ice tonight.

I thought he made good passes, he was surprisingly faster than I thought and won a fight.

However, Martin didn't seem to be really happy of him. He benched him for the entire period I think... I just hope the team isn't going to waive him after 1 game. Give him a real chance with better linemates than Laraque and Stewart.
Don't worry. JM isn't bipolar, stupid, or panicky like so many posters on this board.

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So anyone knows if 1 minor penalty in a game is a modern-era record ?

Personally I don't think I have ever seen a game with no powerplay.
We should have had a couple of PP's. Gomez took a cross-check from a Flames D-man to the face and Gionta got interfered with at the Flames blue-line during a Habs rush. On the other hand, Lats could have easily had a boarding penalty. I don't know what was with the zebras but I find they have really been letting a lot go so far this year. If that's the way they are being directed to call it this year, it's a disadvantage to our small, speedy forwards.

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tough loss, our passing on the first 2 lines was incredible, the new guys were clicking very well and plekanec really showing what he can do out there. this loss came down to our 4th line unable to play in our zone and a couple of lucky bounces by calgary.

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We'll give Chip some games to get back in shape but yes... he was totally brutal.
I completely disagree with you. Chips was a victim of horrid linemate play tonight. Namely Stewart. Otherwise, he played a pretty average game.

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Chipchura gets his last shot at the NHL with the habs and...

He manage to be -3 in less than 5min of play...

Send him down to Hamilton don't give a damn if a team claim that slow, lazy, hearthless dude... Anyway Metropolit is 100 times better than Chip will ever be...
Look at his linemates and wonder why he was a -3 tonight, Laraque and Stewart. He didn't look as bad as the -3 made him look, that's like saying Nystrom will be a 50 goal scorer this year because of his trick tonight (2 of them were lucky deflections off his stick he didn't even try to direct).

Patches looked bad early, looked a lot better later on as did AK.

We were all over them in the 1st, we just didn't carry it over into the 3rd. This team has speed and speed kills, but it is obvious we need some size in the top six because Moen made a difference on the AK and Pleks line when Patches was sat for his early mistakes.

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Not much to complain about. Hell of a lot better than I thought it would be.

There are a few Carboish traits I still see that I don't like. But we worked hard and the team supports each other on the break out 100X better than we ever did under Carbo.

AKost showin signs of life, very refreshing. Needs to keep improving and scoring or we're ****ed. Can show some nasty hands and moves at times. Him and Plek might need another winger.

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I don't know what was with the zebras but I find they have really been letting a lot go so far this year. If that's the way they are being directed to call it this year, it's a disadvantage to our small, speedy forwards.
I dunno... Even though they're small, they aren't soft, and they have the tenacity to work through these things. I didn't see Gionta or Cammy giving up on any plays tonight; in fact, they seemed to work harder to try and get chances. They've got the heart to make any situation work for them.

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It wasn't Chipchura's fault on the first goal unlike what Brunet said. He was in his player's face the whole time, Nystrom just kept the puck away and fired it. What the hell was Chip supposed to do? Maybe dive on him or something.

On the second goal, Stewart missed the pass which was a good pass, maybe an inch too long but it was a sloppy play from Stewart.

I don't think Chipchura played a bad game. Brunet is an idiot; it wasn't Chip's fault at all on the first one.

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Thread title is misleading. The Habs work ethic was solid, but their play was anything but solid save for the final 10 minutes of the 3rd period.

Habs were outplayed for large chunks of this game and all 4 lines had a lot of trouble in our zone with breakouts, clearing attempts and covering Flames forwards. In general I'd say the work ethic was there, but there wasn't a lot of cohesion or "solid play" shown tonight. Most goals were scored against us because the Flames had a lot of possession in our zone and got pucks to the net. This happened against every line, it just so happened that the bounces went against our 4th line.

Individually I liked what Andrei brought in the 3rd period. He needs to keep doing that; working and moving his legs will make the game some much easier for him. Plekanec has been playing well this year. He's not afraid to mix it up in the corners and along the boards, which is great to see.

3rd line worked hard but other than the Lats goal they created very little offence, they couldn't establish much of a forecheck and their defensive play wasn't the best. But they were physical along the boards and they were working hard so that's always a positive. I like this line a lot and like I said they worked hard, but again I wouldn't really say played all that "solid."

4th line I'm willing to cut some slack. They started out very strong but as the game wore on they were less and less effective. People need to ease up on Chipchura. He showed some good things and you can't blame Nystrom's hattrick on him, though it is true his statline isn't pretty. Very good fight early on and offensively he made some good plays.

Laraque had some good hits but seemed to tire as the game wore on. Stewart, again I think people need to ease up. He certainly wasn't the reason we lost and if he can keep his game simple and work hard he's solid guy to have on your 4th line.
That shift they scored from the point Stewart missed on two passes to get it out, how can you not say he was responsible for that?

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It wasn't Chipchura's fault on the first goal unlike what Brunet said. He was in his player's face the whole time. On the second goal, Stewart missed the pass which was a good pass, maybe an inch too long but it was a sloppy play from Stewart.

I don't think Chupchura played a bad game. Brunet is an idiot; it wasn't Chip's fault at all on the first one.
I know, I was listening to Brunet and it was totally obvious Stewart misplayed the pass and he is saying Chip...that guy is awful to listen to and you would think being a former player would have a better feel and understanding of the game.

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Not much to complain about. Hell of a lot better than I thought it would be.

There are a few Carboish traits I still see that I don't like. But we worked hard and the team supports each other on the break out 100X better than we ever did under Carbo.

AKost showin signs of life, very refreshing. Needs to keep improving and scoring or we're ****ed. Can show some nasty hands and moves at times. Him and Plek might need another winger.
Thinking the same. It isnt a coincidence that this line started to look better as a whole when Moen was put with them for a few shifts in the 2nd.

Not a knock on Pacioretty, he'll be fine long term but he's just not ready yet.

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