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Wich team will play the 'trap' this season ?

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09-19-2003, 02:09 PM
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Wich team will play the 'trap' this season ?

Wich team will play the 'trap' this season ?

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Minnesota
Los Angeles
Pittsburgh
New Jersey
Anaheim
Carolina
Ottawa
Detroit (if they know what's good for them)
New York Islanders
San Jose
Philadelphia
Boston
maybe Calgary, not sure yet what Darryl Sutter is planning.

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All of them...

Just like every season, really.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Detroit will NOT PLAY THE TRAP!

Detroit will be playing a left wing lock again, but the forwards will be encouraged to backcheck a bit more this season than last. That'll be the only big difference in how they play.

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Colorado will be playing the defensive trap this year.

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Ok, ok... stop laughing.

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From what I hear, Calgary will be playing the trap (or a derivitive ). Sutter wants to mold the team after the Wild and Ducks this year. Anything that helps turek is good.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Detroit will NOT PLAY THE TRAP!

Detroit will be playing a left wing lock again, but the forwards will be encouraged to backcheck a bit more this season than last. That'll be the only big difference in how they play.
The Left Wing Lock is a version of the neutral zone trap.

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What I mean, of course, is that pretty much all teams -- consciously or unconsiously -- will trap when the game situation calls for it. Most NHL players have great instincts, and they know when to be cautious about forechecking, even if not instructed by the coach. Yes, I have seen Colorado and Detroit both trap other teams.

Do you mean which team exclusively uses the trap? None of them. Maybe Minnesota, but probably not even them.

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Some teams like New Jersey will trap all game.

Ottawa is not one of those teams. I think Ottawa is miscast as a defensive team, when they're just a counter-attacking team. Ottawa will wait for you to cough up the puck, and then counter-attack with their speed. Martin played the trap a lot more when the team was less talented. He plays a lot more fluid style now, but if he gets a lead, Martin will still try and shut it down if he feels its necessary. But I don't think you could call Ottawa a trapping team. Being a trapping team and employing the trap at different times, is an important difference.

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The Left Wing Lock is a version of the neutral zone trap.
...No it's not. You're probably one of those people that thinks that the LWL literally means that the left wing is the one to stay back and do nothing.

Let me explain this as best I can...

Neutral zone trap, or better known as the 2-2-1 formation has VERY LITTLE forchecking involved, and makes the opponent skate into a "trap" which in this case happens to be 2-man coverage on the puck carrier.
This causes the carrier to make bad passes or dump the puck to one of the other team's players so they can counter attack.
A laid back, defense first strategy that slows the pace of games to a crawl.

Left Wing Lock is much different. The LWL uses 2 forcheckers and another forward who sits high in the zone preventing odd man rushes from occuring when the other team skates away.
In most cases of a well-played LWL you'll have 2-on-3 or 3-on-3. Most giveaways on a team that plays the left wing lock occur at or near the offensive blueline, giving possession to the forchecking team once again so they can continue attacking.
An agressive, attacking offensive strategy. If you want a good example of how the LWL works, take a close look at Detroit's grind line when they're in the other team's zone with the puck.

Also, Ottawa plays a style very similar to Detroit's. They're less agressive on the forcheck but their strategy on offense and defense is almost the same.

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Some teams like New Jersey will trap all game.
No they don't. What you're basically saying is: NJ never forechecks.

Absolutely ridiculous.

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No they don't. What you're basically saying is: NJ never forechecks.

Absolutely ridiculous.
That's not true, and if that's what you felt I was saying, you took it too seriously. What I was saying, is that New Jersey can and will trap at any point during a game. It isn't just a late 3rd period thing for them. Yes, they forecheck, I saw that first hand, but they are a trapping team first and foremost.

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What I mean, of course, is that pretty much all teams -- consciously or unconsiously -- will trap when the game situation calls for it. Most NHL players have great instincts, and they know when to be cautious about forechecking, even if not instructed by the coach. Yes, I have seen Colorado and Detroit both trap other teams.

Do you mean which team exclusively uses the trap? None of them. Maybe Minnesota, but probably not even them.
This guy knows what he's talking about. There are very few teams in the league that don't play a version of the trap and none of them win anything. A team must play the trap to win in today's game. Defense wins championships and teams that do it the best, win the most.

Why are people so defensive (I will not pardon that pun. It was beautiful.) about this? You act like it's bad that a team knows how to win. Get over it. Hockey isn't Slamball. Flashy plays and in your face offense can't win every night. Many teams have proven this and morons out there still think teams like the Rangers will contend.

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The Isles will be playing the "lure" not the "trap", thank you very much.

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The Isles will be playing the "lure" not the "trap", thank you very much.
Nice one.

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Columbus is said to have instituted a 'defensive system' for this season. What it is, we'll have to wait to find out!

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