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Dallas looking for puck moving D,Brunnstrom available

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10-11-2009, 05:16 PM
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Picard/Zubov for Brunnstrom
NOw that is funny

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I don't think + is needed...Edmonton needs cap space to sign Cogliano/Grebeshkov/Brule/Gagner next year... 1.7mil in space is worth SOMETHING to Edmonton.
Would you trade Niskanen for cap space? Didn't think so. If the Oilers are looking for cap space, trading the future of their defense isn't exactly the best way to go about that. Even without regard for that fact, the trade is really quite lopsided. The Oilers come out with a smaller PMD who scores half as many points, is the same age, and is only locked up for one year after this season. How is this a good idea?

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well from an oilers perspective

We have Lubor, Gilbert and Grebs as puck moving d-men

Curious as to what dallas would give up for say a

Lubor + Cogliano for Brunnstrom +
I would be all over Lubo...how long is he signed for?

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This article is half correct, the Stars are looking for a puck moving defenseman. However, Brunnstrom won't be traded unless it's a overpayment by the other team.


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This didn't take long. I thought he was the next superstar.

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10-11-2009, 08:35 PM
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I would be all over Lubo...how long is he signed for?

4 more years

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10-11-2009, 11:57 PM
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how about this

to dallas:
kaberle
tlusty
add in hagman to if need be


to toronto:
brunstrom
thomas vincour(prospect)
1st rounder
so you want the PMD you need the better forward at this point a our first round pick from 3 years ago for the lesser forward, lesser prospect and a first. I'll happily pass

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Forget a PMD, Dallas needs a new goalie!

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10-12-2009, 12:06 AM
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Forget a PMD, Dallas needs a new goalie!
Auld = very good. Or at least underrated. He can carry the torch is need be for the rest of the season.

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10-12-2009, 11:17 AM
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Hagman isn't some kind of throw in. He is good forward capable of 20 goals and 50 pts.

Leafs will never do that deal. U want Kaberle AND Tlusty, AND Hagman?

No thanks, we need Kaberle. If he goes, we are a lock for a bottom 5 finish.
okay looking back at it your right about hagman he should be kept or moved in a seperate deal....but i am a leaf fan and i think this would be very good for the leafs ...because we only hav e kaberle this year and next and i dont see us being a cup contendor with or without him and he is our most valuable trade asset so he should be moved.....tlusty is still a highly rated prospect so he has value....we would be getting back brunstrom who is a good player now and will be getting better...vincour if you research him a bit is a very good prospect projects a s a top 6 power forward center...and a first rounder that will likely be a top 15 pick possibly top 10 but at worst 20

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What does Dallas even have to offer for just Visovsky, let alone, Vish and Cogs? If they aren't gonna move Neal or Erikkson, and I don't blame them, who would they have that Edmonton would want/need?? Keep in mind, Edmonton has plenty of bodies and would need to be on the 1 side of a 2 for 1 trade.

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I don't think + is needed...Edmonton needs cap space to sign Cogliano/Grebeshkov/Brule/Gagner next year... 1.7mil in space is worth SOMETHING to Edmonton.
Yes, it is.

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What does Dallas even have to offer for just Visovsky, let alone, Vish and Cogs? If they aren't gonna move Neal or Erikkson, and I don't blame them, who would they have that Edmonton would want/need?? Keep in mind, Edmonton has plenty of bodies and would need to be on the 1 side of a 2 for 1 trade.
The oilers have plenty of bodies--but they have lots of dead weight

I think Dallas has a few players that interest the oilers and I think a deal for Cogs and Lubor for Brunstrom, Grossman and a gibber deal that could inclued Neal.

Problem is Dallas would not want to give up Neal and the oilers would want more then Grossmana nd Brunstrom for Cogs and Lubor.

Curious to know what the oilers would need to add to get Grossman, Brunnstrom and Neal for Lubor, cogs and +

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The oilers have plenty of bodies--but they have lots of dead weight

I think Dallas has a few players that interest the oilers and I think a deal for Cogs and Lubor for Brunstrom, Grossman and a gibber deal that could inclued Neal.

Problem is Dallas would not want to give up Neal and the oilers would want more then Grossmana nd Brunstrom for Cogs and Lubor.

Curious to know what the oilers would need to add to get Grossman, Brunnstrom and Neal for Lubor, cogs and +
I'd venture to say it would take more than Visnovsky and Cogliano just to get Neal. Guys like Neal(big, physical forwards that can skate and have terrific hands) are pretty rare in the NHL today.

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10-12-2009, 12:31 PM
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The oilers have plenty of bodies--but they have lots of dead weight

I think Dallas has a few players that interest the oilers and I think a deal for Cogs and Lubor for Brunstrom, Grossman and a gibber deal that could inclued Neal.

Problem is Dallas would not want to give up Neal and the oilers would want more then Grossmana nd Brunstrom for Cogs and Lubor.

Curious to know what the oilers would need to add to get Grossman, Brunnstrom and Neal for Lubor, cogs and +
Well there is no way in hell Dallas will move Neal. However for the sake of argument it would take Hemsky probably. And Dallas is looking to add D not deal one away like Grossman. Grossman is vastly underrated in regards to his defense and he is solid in his own zone. He wont score a lot but he is a prototypical stay at home D man.


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How did Grossman get involved into all of this? He's the Stars steadiest defenseman. Leave him out of it.

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Grossman is a carbon copy of Matty Norstom. He's been the Stars most solid D-Man. No pts but is a +7 so far. He won't be traded.

I honestly can't see any trade partners for Dallas. They refuse to give up Neal or Eriksson (which is a good thing) and EDM's PMD come at a large price. Simply Brunnstrom + won't get us Vishnovsky, Gilbert, or Souray (when healthy) unless we add a high draft pick or a decent prospect.

And, even then Dallas would have to move/waive 1 D-Man to make room for the new PMD.

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How did Grossman get involved into all of this? He's the Stars steadiest defenseman. Leave him out of it.

Giving the star Lubor creates a problem on the oilers back end

Brunnstrom for Lubor does not add up

Meaning the Stars would to need to add something. Some suggested Daley, but the oilers already have 3 in the pipeline that are like Daley and could just add a guy like Chorney to their lineup.

I added Cogs to the equation meaning the oilers haev Lubor and Cogliano going to the stars and I am trying to figure out what would be the packahe comming back.

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Unless Cogs can win faceoffs and kill penalties Dallas really has no need for him. I think acquiring Vishnovsky is difficult enough by himself.

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Too bad they're not looking at prospects...I'd do Sanguinetti and a pick (maybe 3rd round or so) for Brunnstrom. Though it is taking a risk from the Rangers perspective too since they don't know for sure yet if Del Zotto is going to continue to look good and pan out.

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Build a deal around Ian White for Brunnstrom
Yup, i'm with this one.

Brunnstrom isn't a bust, but he doesn't get you Kaberle.

A straight flip of White and Brunnstrom seems fair to me.

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I don't really see the need of a puckmoving defenseman to begin with. Robidas, Daley and Niskanen are 3 blueliners who can all move the puck up ice. None of them are superstars, but neither are any of our stay at home defensemen (Grossman, Fistric, Skrastins).

The Stars just need a #1/2 defenseman, regardless of his specific strenghts.

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Yup, i'm with this one.

Brunnstrom isn't a bust, but he doesn't get you Kaberle.

A straight flip of White and Brunnstrom seems fair to me.
If Brunnstrom can become consistent defensively, he'll have much more potential than White. That's a BIG IF though. Also, White is so much like Daley that acquiring him would kind of be pointless.

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This article is half correct, the Stars are looking for a puck moving defenseman. However, Brunnstrom won't be traded unless it's a overpayment by the other team.
Puck-moving D'men have been the cream of the croup the past few seasons. It's going to take more than Brunnstrom to get you a Kaberle, JM Liles, Jay-Bo (are just some examples)

However i'm sure Chicago would send you Campbell for Brunnstrom

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