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10-12-2009, 04:17 PM
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Sekera out with injury

As per tsn.ca

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294650

Just in time for Lydman's return

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10-12-2009, 04:21 PM
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As per tsn.ca

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294650

Just in time for Lydman's return
Not surprising, if it's the hit they showed during the game that they suspected. He got creamed up high into the glass, and it looked like the hit caught him right on the side of his rib cage.

Ouch.

Lydman-Myers. Make it happen Lindy.

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Not surprising, if it's the hit they showed during the game that they suspected. He got creamed up high into the glass, and it looked like the hit caught him right on the side of his rib cage.

Ouch.

Lydman-Myers. Make it happen Lindy.
WTF

Still no idea why anyone would recommend breaking up Tallinder-Myers at this point

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WTF

Still no idea why anyone would recommend breaking up Tallinder-Myers at this point
Especially since Montador needs all the help he can get.

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Callup Weber......

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Especially since Montador needs all the help he can get.

Ta,
That guy is SLOOOOWWWW!!!!

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Callup Weber......
Call up Gragnani and see what he can do from the point on the PP...

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Call up Gragnani and see what he can do from the point on the PP...
No. I don't want another forward in the lineup, we better bring up a d-man who can play defense. Myers really could use some experience on the PP.....

Call up Weber and waive Paetsch. He's nozhing but a money eater.

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Call up Gragnani and see what he can do from the point on the PP...
Grags hasn't got anything done down in Portland this year, don't want this guy up. And no need to call anybody up since Lydman will be ready.

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Is there anybody in Portland that has earned a call up?
And if Sekera is out for awhile, does this means Myers is staying?

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Gragnani, as i've said before, has no ability to be an NHL defensemen.

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That guy is SLOOOOWWWW!!!!
He's not the swiftest of skaters, for sure. I'd like him to bring what he was supposed to bring to the table... namely physical presence. Paired with Loods he might be comfortable enough to do that. He and Sekera didn't look good together. Who's fault that was, I don't know.

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WTF

Still no idea why anyone would recommend breaking up Tallinder-Myers at this point
Because we don't want Myers turning into a fruitloop like Hank?

Seriously though, putting away personal bias / just not likely Tallinder, Hank was (is?) on the trade block - for all we know he could be gone at the first opportunity. More importantly, whose style do you want Myers to pickup? Positionally sound, but soft as a pillow with no balls like Hank? Or physical, hitting and blocking shots like Lydman?

With the natural talents Myers has shown to date, I'm not worried about the former, and I think Lydman is the best teacher we have to show him the latter.

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Because we don't want Myers turning into a fruitloop like Hank?

Seriously though, putting away personal bias / just not likely Tallinder, Hank was (is?) on the trade block - for all we know he could be gone at the first opportunity. More importantly, whose style do you want Myers to pickup? Positionally sound, but soft as a pillow with no balls like Hank? Or physical, hitting and blocking shots like Lydman?

With the natural talents Myers has shown to date, I'm not worried about the former, and I think Lydman is the best teacher we have to show him the latter.
Having Hank as his partner is actually going to be highly beneficial to Myers' offensive game. Tyler has been able to be more aggressive on the offensive end of the ice because Tallinder is pretty much a pure stay-at-home type.

Lydman tends to get involved in the offense a little more.

And as far as emulating style...does this really happen? Did Sekera really emulate Lydman, or Spacek? Did Butler really emulate Rivet?

Those guys have their own style, and they were going to play that way regardless who they were partnered with. The choice of partner should be based on who complements their style of play.

Sounds to me like just another flimsy excuse to level shots against everyone's favorite scapegoat. And all this while Tallinder is actually playing well right now.

Style over substance, yet again.

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10-12-2009, 06:01 PM
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Having Hank as his partner is actually going to be highly beneficial to Myers' offensive game. Tyler has been able to be more aggressive on the offensive end of the ice because Tallinder is pretty much a pure stay-at-home type.

Lydman tends to get involved in the offense a little more.

And as far as emulating style...does this really happen? Did Sekera really emulate Lydman, or Spacek? Did Butler really emulate Rivet?

Those guys have their own style, and they were going to play that way regardless who they were partnered with. The choice of partner should be based on who complements their style of play.

Sounds to me like just another flimsy excuse to level shots against everyone's favorite scapegoat. And all this while Tallinder is actually playing well right now.

Style over substance, yet again.
I was just going to post about Butler not emulating Rivet. Great points agree 100%.

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Sounds to me like just another flimsy excuse to level shots against everyone's favorite scapegoat. And all this while Tallinder is actually playing well right now.

Style over substance, yet again.
Meh, it's an opinion. It's not about how well Tallinder is or isn't playing - the guy's a sissy, and we have too much sissy on the roster - despite Darcy's stocking of the Portland cupboard. That's really all there is to it.

I'd like to see Lydman-Myers given some time, especially if Hank is still on the trading block. If it doesn't work out, fine, move him back with Hank. Especially if the left side is Lydman's "natural" side - why not give it a shot?

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Tallinder - Myers
Butler - Rivet
Lydman - Montador

It puts Lydman on the left, but it makes our pairs as deep as possibluh IMO

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Because we don't want Myers turning into a fruitloop like Hank?

Seriously though, putting away personal bias / just not likely Tallinder, Hank was (is?) on the trade block - for all we know he could be gone at the first opportunity. More importantly, whose style do you want Myers to pickup? Positionally sound, but soft as a pillow with no balls like Hank?
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Meh, it's an opinion. It's not about how well Tallinder is or isn't playing - the guy's a sissy, and we have too much sissy on the roster - despite Darcy's stocking of the Portland cupboard. That's really all there is to it.
So basically what you're saying is that "putting away personal bias" your personal bias leads you to want Myers paired with Lydman. That's fine, but I don't see the point in saying that you're looking at something objectively when it's clear that you just object to a certain style of play wholesale.

When Tallinder's playing well--something we've unfortunately seen far too little of in the last couple years--he's still not physical but he's highly effective despite that because of his reach, positioning, and skating.

I don't understand the thinking behind breaking up something that's working very well--after a rough first game Tallinder was fine against Phoenix and good against Nashville. And Myers has looked great playing with him. So it seems to me that Lydman would be better used elsewhere unless that changes. The team has plenty of issues still and fixing what isn't broken doesn't seem like a smart priority. It seems to me that the pairings jBud suggests are a better use of the talent on hand.

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So basically what you're saying is that "putting away personal bias" your personal bias leads you to want Myers paired with Lydman. That's fine, but I don't see the point in saying that you're looking at something objectively when it's clear that you just object to a certain style of play wholesale.
I never said I was looking at things objectively, I was just supplementing my (obviously biased) opinion with some reasons why a Lydman-Myers pairing might work, or why a Hank-Myers pairing might not.

And I don't necessarily object to Hank's style, per se. If Hank were to continue playing like he his now, but had a track record of actually sticking up for his team mates when the situation called for it, I'd be fine sticking him with Myers. But that's not the case.

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I can't imagine why anyone would suggest breaking up Hank-Myers. Tallinder is playing his best hockey in years, and Myers looks great. The D (and Miller) has allowed 3 goals in 3 games. Why start tinkering any more than is necessary?

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It'll be interesting to find out of this injury is a progression of Rej getting hit up high previously with that shot. That could've also been high right rib....

At least they have someone to plug in who isn't going to be a 2-5:00 minute a night guy Lindy has to protect from everyone and everything...

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I can't imagine why anyone would suggest breaking up Hank-Myers. Tallinder is playing his best hockey in years, and Myers looks great. The D (and Miller) has allowed 3 goals in 3 games. Why start tinkering any more than is necessary?
I'm just trying to be consistent. Should my opinion of a player change after a few games of good (or bad) play?

And where'd all the other HankHaters go? Hello? Anyone? Is this thing on?

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I assume with Sekera going on IR, the Sabres will activate Adam Mair.

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I'm just trying to be consistent. Should my opinion of a player change after a few games of good (or bad) play?

And where'd all the other HankHaters go? Hello? Anyone? Is this thing on?
Check my posts from the pre-season. I've consistently been saying that the Hank hating had gone way too far.

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Check my posts from the pre-season. I've consistently been saying that the Hank hating had gone way too far.
Tallinder is Richard Smehlik reincarnate on the vitriol front. He's not physical enough, not skilled enough, not offensive enough for anybody's taste. The only thing people seem to agree on is that his contract is too rich, or he's trade bait, or that he's holding back the youth by clogging the depth chart. To which I answer "yes," "yes," and "what depth?" Tallinder IS our depth at this point. Without him, we're one injury away from Weber being called up, which isn't the most thrilling idea.

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