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10-18-2009, 08:46 PM
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The habs and Oil are carbon copies of each other. They both have undersized teams and softer d-men, so how can they make a trade that improves either team?
Souray, Grebs, Smid, Strudwick and Staios are soft? New news to me!

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I'd do this if the Oilers had the space, they just don't. Too many forwards already.

Nilsson and 4th for Poni?
I'd do that in a heartbeat!

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Markov: one of the best QBing PP D men in the NHL (Lidstrom's better, Chara's better. After that it's a grey area that one can debate all year long).

Visnovsky: very, very capable #1 D man that would be an EXCELLENT replacement for Markov if Montreal could acquire him. (If the Habs don't want to part with some keys pieces to acquire Visnovsky, please come talk to the Sens, this guy could be the ideal #1 we've wanted for a while now).

Regarding the original proposal, I think it favours Montreal value-wise. Of course, one might question whether trading (a lot) for a guy who's needed primarily because of a half-year injury to Markov is the wisest of moves but value-wise it's not bad. After Markov returns, you've got two VERY good D men but a lot of money tied up there...

If I'm Edmonton though, I'm asking for a young D man/prospect coming back in the deal (i.e., someone better than Mara).

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10-18-2009, 09:29 PM
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Markov: one of the best QBing PP D men in the NHL (Lidstrom's better, Chara's better. After that it's a grey area that one can debate all year long).

Visnovsky: very, very capable #1 D man that would be an EXCELLENT replacement for Markov if Montreal could acquire him. (If the Habs don't want to part with some keys pieces to acquire Visnovsky, please come talk to the Sens, this guy could be the ideal #1 we've wanted for a while now).

Regarding the original proposal, I think it favours Montreal value-wise. Of course, one might question whether trading (a lot) for a guy who's needed primarily because of a half-year injury to Markov is the wisest of moves but value-wise it's not bad. After Markov returns, you've got two VERY good D men but a lot of money tied up there...

If I'm Edmonton though, I'm asking for a young D man/prospect coming back in the deal (i.e., someone better than Mara).
No. Markov's a better PPQB than Chara, but Chara is a better all-around D-man.

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10-18-2009, 10:45 PM
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The habs and Oil are carbon copies of each other. They both have undersized teams and softer d-men, so how can they make a trade that improves either team?
not at all.

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10-18-2009, 11:18 PM
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Past 4 years average
Hemsky 67- > Cammalleri-66(edge to hemsky because he makes almost 2million less
Horcoff-57< Gomez-68
Penner-43(only in the nhl for three previous years)<-Gionta-62
Visnovski-49 =<Markov-54 pretty equal players cap and average point wise
Souray-48(did not include 07-08 season due to him playing 23games)>>>Hamrlik-31
I took the top 3 paid forwards and compared them same with the D
With top line scoring i would give the advantage to Montreal
Second line scoring advantage edmonton
Third line advantage edmonton
Fourth line who cares

Goaltender i give to edmonton They are even s% and Wins and GAA but khabs is way better in the playoffs

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10-19-2009, 12:02 PM
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Oil fan with a fantasy trade which helps Montreal with their problems on the blueline now and long down the road. Edmonton gets tougher, more scoring up front and cap space sooner down the road.


To Edmonton:

Andrei Kostitsyn - 3,250,000 for 2 years.
Paul Mara - 1,675,000 this year then UFA.
2nd rounder in '10/Yannick Weber/Ben Maxwell/P.K. Subban

To Montreal:
Lubomir Visnovsky - 5,600,000 for 4 years

Montreal eats some cap, but they can afford to with Markov out of the line-up.

Praise away!

You make Weber part of that deal, and I'm all over it....and I like Visnovsky

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